alphastreet said:

In recent times, Madonna had her tub video, and on their birthdays, Monica and janelle monae posted nude photos in their birthday suits Not to body shame anyone cause it looks like they take good care of themselves, but I don’t get the point of showing it off. And the majority of people who comment on those kind of posts seem to be enabling them

Didn't Madonna put out a book in the 1990s long before social media? I watched a Red Hot Chili Peppers concert years ago where they were at some festival and Flea was completely naked. It was on Youtube and he was not blurred out either. I don't know if it's still up or not. The entire band was also known for performing wearing only a sock. I also recall singers like Grace Jones & Wendy O. Williams in the 1980s. Like I mentioned in another thread, in the 1960s, John Lennon & Yoko Ono had an album called Two Virgins. John was also naked on the cover of Rolling Stone around 1980, but Yoko was dressed.

I think it's called desperation.

looby said:

I think it's called desperation.

Like this?

looby said:

MickyDolenz said:

SoulAlive said:

Nothing wrong with nudity we’re all fans of an artist who once sang “I wish we all were nude”.Be proud of your body.

alphastreet said:

She did, but I was too young to know the details then I guess it’s her choice but it doesn’t take away from her music

If people want to post photos like that on their Instagram or whatever, that's their business. But it's a different thing if someone hacks a celebrity's personal photos and leaks them on the internet. That isn't good at all.

I was around for the Madonna Sex book. I mostly remember that it was reported that people who bought it were complaining that the covers would fall off. On the Girlie Show tour, Madonna had one of the Fly Girls (Carrie Ann Inaba) from In Living Color as one of her dancers and she was topless at the beginning. Many celebrities have done nude or semi-nude professional photo shoots in the past. They tend to be kinda artsy though, like those Ohio Players album covers. Marilyn Monroe is one of them. There's also the famous Burt Reynolds photo.

Sex sells

MickyDolenz said:

looby said:

I think it's called desperation.

Like this?

Yes, like that, because he did it for attention, shock value, to get noticed....the same reasons they did.

"Sex sells" is bullshit, because they're not selling anything with an instagram post. Madonna in her bathtub was talking or reciting something, whatever. She was in lockdown like the rest of us, tour canceled, album stalled. What's she selling?

The whole idea of "Not to body shame anyone cause it looks like they take good care of themselves" is contradicts itself. You wouldn't body shame someone because they are in shape, but you would body shame someone like Missy Elliott, Lizzo, Adele, Kelly Clarkson, Mariah Carey - I mean, anyone who isn't a size 4???? Someone who doesn't "look(s) like they take care of themselves?" The statement needs to be reconsidered before typing it, IMO.

I'm just wondering why it's anyone's business. If we're going to police Instagram for bodies, try going to Twitter where porn is still allowed. Why not bark at sex workers in their own homes doing their own thing and shame them, tell them how horrible and low-class they are, as they are easily making a better living than a lot of us, and having 100x more fun doing it? It's rather arrogant to think anyone's opinion means anything to Madonna, Monica, Janelle, or whoever. They're aware of people who seek to shame them, yet they live on anyway. And while anyone has every right to be a dickface and shame someone, it says that person should post their own pic and show the world what perfection looks ilke. Put up or shut up.

By the way, a decade before Lovesexy, Prince was naked on For You and Prince. John Lennon and Yoko was naked on Two Virgins.

TrivialPursuit said:

MickyDolenz said:

onlyforaminute said:

onlyforaminute said:

PS anybody hear of Karl Urban doing this let me know. Thank you in advance.

I second this emotion.

If they want to show the goodies, let them.

It's undignified, but it ain't hurtin nobody.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIBrHrYJ72B/?utm_source=ig_embed

She's OVER FIFTY!!!

But, if you have the greens, you can be forever green...

MickyDolenz said:

Fake Widow's Peak!

jfenster said:

alphastreet said:

Sounds like it

Janelle Monáe is 35. Since when is that old? Even if a person is older, so what? I don't get ageism and that somebody has to act or dress a certain way.

TrivialPursuit said:

You wouldn't body shame someone because they are in shape, but you would body shame someone like Missy Elliott, Lizzo, Adele, Kelly Clarkson, Mariah Carey - I mean, anyone who isn't a size 4????

I guess you haven't seen Adele recently.

MickyDolenz said:

ass and titties on public display is a good thing... i welcome it through all sources of media.. social or otherwise

LouieLestate said:

If they want to show the goodies, let them.

It's undignified, but it ain't hurtin nobody.

That's perspective, not a fact.

because they want to

As Prince said "When your like 40 and pulling out body parts, it's old skin" in these times so much has been done that nothing is shocking and none of in reality gains any real fans, it just gets you likes and clicks and people forget you thirty minutes later.

lastdecember said:

As Prince said "When your like 40 and pulling out body parts, it's old skin" in these times so much has been done that nothing is shocking and none of in reality gains any real fans, it just gets you likes and clicks and people forget you thirty minutes later.

and yet,you know you wanna see a sexy pic of Cardi B. wearing nothing but a smile