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Thread started 01/04/21 4:32pm

onlyforaminute

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Is "self promotion" music a recent phenomenon?

I wanted to write wealth based but that didn't fully cover what I'm thinking. I could be wrong but it seems to me pre music videos, songs were primarily based on what I'll call "universal conditions", more about emotions joy, sadness or introspective. Post music videos you got more songs that were "braggy" "look at me and what I got". Experts, is that true?
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Reply #1 posted 01/04/21 6:04pm

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That's always been there in music, sometimes in a double entendre form. In Tutti Frutti, Little Richard is bragging about the girls (Sue & Daisy) he got. The Beach Boys' Little Deuce Coupe is about what their car does. There's also an old blues song called I'm The Fixer by Willie Mabon.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #2 posted 01/05/21 3:08am

jaawwnn

Money, that's what I want.

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Reply #3 posted 01/05/21 9:18am

namepeace

It's been part of blues, R&B and small-r rock music since the beginning.

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Reply #4 posted 01/05/21 10:27am

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I think videos just made the visual more desirable, meaning more people desired the image. When it was just radio/audio a certain amount of fantasy/imagination is needed. People dressed like Prince, MJ, Madonna in the 80s when video was new.

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With modern music in the age of Spotify and Instagram and all the other odd ways new music is delivered it can be hard to tell the song from the advertisement or if the song is the advertisement. An artist posted an interesting stat on social media that a $1 album purchase on Bandcamp is equal to that album being streamed 331 times on a streaming service. Seems a rough way to generate income. I'm not surprised many modern "artists" use these influencer tactics to make coin.

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Reply #5 posted 01/05/21 7:33pm

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It's more so in the last ten years
Thank reality TV and hip.hop
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Reply #6 posted 01/05/21 11:00pm

alphastreet

My name is prince comes to mind lol
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Reply #7 posted 01/06/21 1:41am

jaawwnn

You can definitely see a shift from "niche concern" to "only concern" with the impact of Reagonomics.

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Reply #8 posted 01/06/21 2:42am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

It's more so in the last ten years Thank reality TV and hip.hop

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #9 posted 01/06/21 9:49am

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I was having a hard time coming up with songs that say "hey look how wonderful i am" types. Someone stated money that's what I want but that's more wishing than bragging isn't it? Yeah I think the visual lends that type of song substance.


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Reply #10 posted 01/06/21 4:09pm

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #11 posted 01/06/21 6:29pm

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^^ lol touche
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Reply #12 posted 01/06/21 6:29pm

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hmmm I think I know what you mean, yeah, I'd say so, swag culture got prominence late 00's-early 10's maybe. It's a bit different to shills like wu tang and chamillionaire spruiking products, now a lot of mainstreamers are obsessed with identity politics, being social media influencers and making their fanbases into cults, so we get too many hoe shows and thot beats. Fela Kuti did say music is the weapon.

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Reply #13 posted 01/07/21 11:46am

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Self-promotion has always been around but in the modern age it's on steroids. razz lol

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