hollywood0024 said:

Margot said:

Joni Mitchell is likely in the top ten as a singer-songwriter. I'm not certain if Prince felt he was quite on par with her. He had mad respect for her.

She crossed genres as well and played with some of the greats, Herbie Hancock, Charles Mingus,

Jaco Pastorius (Bass), Chick Correa, Wayne Shorter etc.

If we are talking about the most talented female artist, she at least needs to have written her own lyrics/music and be respected by the greats.

Do you think Madonna is on par with Joni Mitchell? I do.

Sorry, but there is no comparison.

Joni is in rarefied air.

Margot said:

hollywood0024 said:

alphastreet said:

If I had to pick someone over Mariah, Aretha is definitely a great voice. Really love her voice but don’t feel like I know enough of her songs

Madonna has 10 octaves.

alphastreet said:

beast44 said:

Janet Jackson

Also one of my favourites of all time. I know people criticize her voice, but I find it so soothing and she’s always heavily involved in the writing process and can really dance

Britney Spears was a much better natural singing talent than both Madonna and Janet Jackson before signing with Jive records (and probably a little bit at the beginning of career too.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEZ2azbB9P8

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And the fact that Britney Spears is objectively a better songwriter than Beyonce Knowles is just as notable...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN3Ww-jA_yI

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(1:50)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnMS3RkQL98&t=5s

mnbvc said:

hollywood0024 said:

Margot said:

Sorry, but there is no comparison.

Joni is in rarefied air.

What about vocally?

Madonna is not strong vocally.

Something I forgot to mention is that to be considered the 'best' one needs to be an innovator, which Joni was.

She is ranked higher than Prince and I think he would agree. They both were extremely talented but Joni was an innovator, Prince was more of a 'blender' of existing genres.

alphastreet said:

hollywood0024 said:

Awesome. What was Janet like?

The first time we met during velvet rope era, she passed by us at the studio where she was recording an interview, and when she walked by, my cousin and I stood up and she shook our hands smiling and security told us to sit down Then during rockwitchu tour, my bff and I were vip and got to watch her do sound chdck, and several of us in the crowd including my friend and I got backstage passes to meet her. She got a photo with us and then I called out, I love you and she turned around, smiled and said I love you too and I was in awe! [Edited 11/10/20 20:42pm] [Edited 11/10/20 20:43pm]

And then you woke up... just kidding.

slyjackson said:

alphastreet said:

slyjackson said:

And then you woke up... just kidding.

Have no reason to lie, it really happened though it feels like a dream. Now if I saw mj....

I believe you, but I couldn't keep from saying that, was the perfect moment.

slyjackson said:

not any good at picking "mosts,"
but will add

Billie Holiday
Carole King

[Edited 11/11/20 20:48pm]

alphastreet said:

"The Girls in the Band" is a great movie that features some very talented female instrumentalists.

I'll link to the trailer which features a quote from jazz critic George Simon:

"Only God can make a tree, and only men can play good jazz."

The movie does a great job of showing what a fool Mr. Simon was. I bet Prince would have really dug this movie...even if Patrice Rushen wasn't in it.


https://www.youtube.com/w...6XDjh8gRGg

jfenster said:

hollywood0024 said:

Not sure if dancers are considered a subject of Music: Non-Prince (or Prince: Music..., for that matter : ) ).

Figure they may be, as the vast majority of dance is intertwined with music.

Anyway, I'm tickled to see that today's Google doodle celebrates the artistry of Maria Tallchief.

“From your first plié you are learning to become an artist. In every sense of the word you are poetry in motion. And if you are fortunate enough...you are actually the music.”

—Maria Tallchief

In honor of Native American Heritage Month in the U.S., today’s video Doodle—created in partnership with Native American guest artists Lydia Cheshewalla, Chris Pappan, and Yatika Starr Fields— celebrates Maria Tallchief, member of the Osage Nation who was America’s first, major prima ballerina. Not only a trailblazer for Native American dancers, Tallchief is widely considered one of the country’s most influential ballerinas of all time. On this day in 2007, a bronze sculpture of Tallchief and four other Native American ballerinas was unveiled in Oklahoma at the Tulsa Historical Society in a piece titled “The Five Moons” by artist Gary Henson."


https://youtu.be/AWXvClaRtsI


https://www.google.com/doodles/celebrating-maria-tallchief

Aretha Franklin...gospel,show tunes, torch ballads, jazz, r&b, blues, rock, reggae, opera, plus played piano. orgam and celeste and a songwriter.

RnBAmbassador said:

Kate Bush OG and so ahead of her time, Live Hammersmith Odeon 1979, its https://www.youtube.com/w...a665vLYRHk

hollywood0024 said:

hollygolightly said:

Have we forgotten the great Lady T Teena Marie The funkiest most soulful voice I’ve heard

Goddess4Real said:

Kate Bush OG and so ahead of her time.

Of course KT, as already mentioned in reply #28, no one even comes close.

hollygolightly said: