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Thread started 11/04/20 10:19am

onlyforaminute

George Michael appreciation

Upon the 995th time watching Last Christmas and the 995th time blast George Michael and Wham!

https://youtu.be/diYAc7gB-0A

Too early?



*edit sigh*
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Reply #1 posted 11/04/20 10:27am

alphastreet

Love him!
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Reply #2 posted 11/04/20 3:52pm

S2DG

Miss his voice and love his talent.

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Reply #3 posted 11/04/20 5:13pm

thebanishedone

I will say what i like about him is that George could play instruments unlike Michael Jackson .George was not proficient on instruments like Stevie Wonder or Prince but he was good enough to play in studio.That George playing Roland juno synth on Everything She Wants by Wham.George made killer synth bass line.It's him on all instruments on Faith album ,with a few exceptions.He was a very good pop songwriter a great singer.
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Reply #4 posted 11/04/20 7:30pm

onlyforaminute

S2DG said:

Miss his voice and love his talent.


I do like his voice. I hadn't noticed the sounds he used before.
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Reply #5 posted 11/04/20 7:57pm

alphastreet

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I will say what i like about him is that George could play instruments unlike Michael Jackson .George was not proficient on instruments like Stevie Wonder or Prince but he was good enough to play in studio.That George playing Roland juno synth on Everything She Wants by Wham.George made killer synth bass line.It's him on all instruments on Faith album ,with a few exceptions.He was a very good pop songwriter a great singer.


He was an amazing songwriter for sure, but mj dabbled with some instruments on invincible to be fair. No point comparing them though at the time I thought george’s Faith song was better than mjs bad song, and I was 4 hehe
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Reply #6 posted 11/04/20 11:16pm

TrivialPursuit

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The 4K remastered "Freedom '90" is on his YouTube channel.

I just watched Live in London bluray the other day. Man, this newer 4K TV we have shows things I've never seen before. It's such a great show, great energy. Pacing is great. He seems the most at peace and happy than he'd been in a long time.

His songwriting was far and above that of his peers. While he had so few studio albums through the course of his career, it sorta made each one special and unique to a large span in his life. LWP was about separating himself from that Faith aesthetic. Faith was that "I'm not in Wham! anymore," breakout. Older was a weathered and worn man fighting for his livelihood, suffering great losses in his personal life. There's a bit of cynicism on the album, mocking the idea of celebrity, and a harsh self-examination of his life as it stands, the relics of past loves crumbled around him.

Patience was a breath of fresh air, a new found outting as a gay man (an openly gay man, although it was addressed with "Outside), new love, and new boldness. Yet as with any GM album, there are those moments of introspective self-analysis.

I love that he admired Stevie Wonder so much, covering a few songs here and there (especially with "As" as a duet with MJB, which is also 4K on the YouTube page). Some of his best songs were never on a proper studio album, but rather in some other fashion. "Fantasy," "Too Funky," "Killer/Papa Was a Rolling Stone," "Waltz Away Dreaming," "Outside," "If I Told You That."

I believe he loved his fans dearly, and they sustained him sometimes when he needed it most. We were always here, patiently waiting for the next project, the next song, they next anything.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #7 posted 11/05/20 4:20am

Dalia11

He was a talented singer, handsome,(Cancer Sun Sign). My mother also had a crush on him! 💝🎸🎤💿⭐⭐⭐⭐💿
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Reply #8 posted 11/05/20 5:08am

thebanishedone

alphastreet said:

thebanishedone said:
I will say what i like about him is that George could play instruments unlike Michael Jackson .George was not proficient on instruments like Stevie Wonder or Prince but he was good enough to play in studio.That George playing Roland juno synth on Everything She Wants by Wham.George made killer synth bass line.It's him on all instruments on Faith album ,with a few exceptions.He was a very good pop songwriter a great singer.
He was an amazing songwriter for sure, but mj dabbled with some instruments on invincible to be fair. No point comparing them though at the time I thought george’s Faith song was better than mjs bad song, and I was 4 hehe

i compared because i think Michael Jackson instrumental credits were false

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Reply #9 posted 11/05/20 5:53am

Empress

I love GM and so does my husband. We've been fans since the 80's. George had such a beautiful voice and was a phenominal songwriter. He has written and recorded some of my favourite songs over the past few decades. I miss him and his wonderful sense of humour, and of course, his talent.

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Reply #10 posted 11/05/20 5:57am

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TrivialPursuit said:

The 4K remastered "Freedom '90" is on his YouTube channel.

I just watched Live in London bluray the other day. Man, this newer 4K TV we have shows things I've never seen before. It's such a great show, great energy. Pacing is great. He seems the most at peace and happy than he'd been in a long time.

His songwriting was far and above that of his peers. While he had so few studio albums through the course of his career, it sorta made each one special and unique to a large span in his life. LWP was about separating himself from that Faith aesthetic. Faith was that "I'm not in Wham! anymore," breakout. Older was a weathered and worn man fighting for his livelihood, suffering great losses in his personal life. There's a bit of cynicism on the album, mocking the idea of celebrity, and a harsh self-examination of his life as it stands, the relics of past loves crumbled around him.

Patience was a breath of fresh air, a new found outting as a gay man (an openly gay man, although it was addressed with "Outside), new love, and new boldness. Yet as with any GM album, there are those moments of introspective self-analysis.

I love that he admired Stevie Wonder so much, covering a few songs here and there (especially with "As" as a duet with MJB, which is also 4K on the YouTube page). Some of his best songs were never on a proper studio album, but rather in some other fashion. "Fantasy," "Too Funky," "Killer/Papa Was a Rolling Stone," "Waltz Away Dreaming," "Outside," "If I Told You That."

I believe he loved his fans dearly, and they sustained him sometimes when he needed it most. We were always here, patiently waiting for the next project, the next song, they next anything.

This is one of the best live concerts I've ever seen on DVD/Bluray. We've watched it many, many times over the years and never get bored. It's amazing! Too bad Prince couldn't get his act together with live concert recordings.

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Reply #11 posted 11/05/20 12:14pm

alphastreet

thebanishedone said:



alphastreet said:


thebanishedone said:
I will say what i like about him is that George could play instruments unlike Michael Jackson .George was not proficient on instruments like Stevie Wonder or Prince but he was good enough to play in studio.That George playing Roland juno synth on Everything She Wants by Wham.George made killer synth bass line.It's him on all instruments on Faith album ,with a few exceptions.He was a very good pop songwriter a great singer.

He was an amazing songwriter for sure, but mj dabbled with some instruments on invincible to be fair. No point comparing them though at the time I thought george’s Faith song was better than mjs bad song, and I was 4 hehe

i compared because i think Michael Jackson instrumental credits were false



If you say so, I think he may have played with a lot of guidance, cause his composing style is different from how prince and George Michael do it
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Reply #12 posted 11/06/20 5:07am

wilmer

alphastreet said:

thebanishedone said:



alphastreet said:


thebanishedone said:
I will say what i like about him is that George could play instruments unlike Michael Jackson .George was not proficient on instruments like Stevie Wonder or Prince but he was good enough to play in studio.That George playing Roland juno synth on Everything She Wants by Wham.George made killer synth bass line.It's him on all instruments on Faith album ,with a few exceptions.He was a very good pop songwriter a great singer.

He was an amazing songwriter for sure, but mj dabbled with some instruments on invincible to be fair. No point comparing them though at the time I thought george’s Faith song was better than mjs bad song, and I was 4 hehe

i compared because i think Michael Jackson instrumental credits were false



If you say so, I think he may have played with a lot of guidance, cause his composing style is different from how prince and George Michael do it
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I've heard that Mike could play piano very well, not proficiently though. He was also getting behind the drum kit and playing Beatles songs in Ireland. We all know this wasn't his forte. Btw, have you seen George Michael's interview about the George Michael Jackson duet that never happened? It's out there
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Reply #14 posted 11/06/20 5:44am

onlyforaminute

^ the title was funny but the rest was very gossipy and who knows if it were true.
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Reply #15 posted 11/06/20 6:09am

wilmer

onlyforaminute said:

^ the title was funny but the rest was very gossipy and who knows if it were true.


It would funny if a Jackson-hating George Michael fan went to the trouble of making up the interview. biggrin
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Reply #16 posted 11/06/20 9:36am

TrivialPursuit

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onlyforaminute said:

^ the title was funny but the rest was very gossipy and who knows if it were true.


I got as far as the "he was as red-faced as Michael Jackson was white," then I was out. What a stupid ass article.

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Reply #17 posted 11/07/20 8:20am

onlyforaminute

His lyrics though. They're getting to me.
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Reply #18 posted 11/08/20 5:11am

domainator2010

I've said it once, I'll say it again - Father Figure was one of the greatest videos of all time!

It's been so for more than the last 30 YEARS or so!

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domainator2010 said:

I've said it once, I'll say it again - "Father Figure" was one of the greatest videos of all time!

It's been so for more than the last 30 YEARS or so!


"Father Figure" was very cinematic. While plenty of videos to that point attempted to create a storyline and a mood, and many often did, FF really had something else about it that made it special.

Also, about that song - I'd love to hear the eariler version of it, where it was due to be a mid-tempo R&B type number. What changed it was taking out the snare, allowing more space between which created more moodiness and a somber nuance. I suppose someone could just lay in a good snare sound and see what it sounded like. I'm not totally clear if it was recorded with a snare like that, assumed to be a mid-tempo R&B song, or if it was later cut (like the bass on WDC) and he had an epiphany.

I think "Outside" is always going to stand out for me, as a great video. GM toyed with his sexuality in public, often not saying much of anything. But when he came out, he went balls to the bathroom wall. So much so that the cop who arrested him sued him for defimation. The video was genius.




I also thought "Fastlove" was fucking beautiful to look at. Beautiful people, incredible imagery. It's amazing how we consider certain things to feel totally normal, when in fact it was just a stylist or a director's idea for a video and it suddenly becomes so iconic. Who else could make a silver hairdryer or a bare mattress sexy? But goddamn if I didn't wanna jump that dude's bones laid out on that bare mattress in the loft.



The rotating chair, the little remote thing in his hand, the people phasing in and out of existence. GM talked about how the director gave him a little whiskey or something to loosen him up then got him under that water to dance to the song. And again - how fucking iconic.




I can't imagine someone who had a hand in making MJ & Janet's "Scream" video didn't take a few notes from "Fastlove"'s visuals.

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Reply #20 posted 11/14/20 5:55pm

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I loved Wham! and some of George's solo stuff, my all time fav Wham song is Everything She Wants from Make It Big (1984) https://www.youtube.com/w...f_Lwe6p-Cg and my all-time fav George Michael song is Monkey from Faith (1987) https://www.youtube.com/w...Hb2XYeXcJI IMO George Michael's performance at Rock in Rio (1991) was pure cloud9 especially his version of Elton John's Tonight https://www.youtube.com/w...QQ1oYTjGyQ

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Reply #21 posted 11/14/20 7:45pm

alphastreet

Goddess4Real said:

I loved Wham! and some of George's solo stuff, my all time fav Wham song is Everything She Wants from Make It Big (1984) https://www.youtube.com/w...f_Lwe6p-Cg and my all-time fav George Michael song is Monkey from Faith (1987) https://www.youtube.com/w...Hb2XYeXcJI IMO George Michael's performance at Rock in Rio (1991) was pure cloud9 especially his version of Elton John's Tonight https://www.youtube.com/w...QQ1oYTjGyQ



Also really love those songs and still play them often on my phone. Did you know monkey was produced by jimmy Jam & terry lewis ?
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Reply #22 posted 11/15/20 6:52am

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I have liked Wham! and George Michael right from the start. As a young teenager I loved Michael and Andrew, both the music and the joy they exuberated in their music videos. When George went solo I was a little sad, but his albums certainly made up for that. I thought releasing Outside after he got busted in that LA public toilet was a master stroke, pure genius. I was sad to learn about his death just around christmas a few years ago. RIP George and thank you for the music!

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
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Reply #23 posted 11/15/20 6:55am

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Andrew's book was very good!


GM is 1 of my all time favs.

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Reply #24 posted 11/15/20 8:01am

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TrivialPursuit said:


I can't imagine someone who had a hand in making MJ & Janet's "Scream" video didn't take a few notes from "Fastlove"'s visuals.


Doubtful, seeing as Scream was released a year before Fast Love.

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TrivialPursuit

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MattyJam said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I can't imagine someone who had a hand in making MJ & Janet's "Scream" video didn't take a few notes from "Fastlove"'s visuals.


Doubtful, seeing as Scream was released a year before Fast Love.


Hmmm, that is true. My bad. They do share similarities, regardless.

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Reply #26 posted 11/15/20 12:35pm

alphastreet

A lot of videos tried to be futuristic after scream, so it’s possible with fastlove too
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alphastreet said:

Goddess4Real said:

I loved Wham! and some of George's solo stuff, my all time fav Wham song is Everything She Wants from Make It Big (1984) https://www.youtube.com/w...f_Lwe6p-Cg and my all-time fav George Michael song is Monkey from Faith (1987) https://www.youtube.com/w...Hb2XYeXcJI IMO George Michael's performance at Rock in Rio (1991) was pure cloud9 especially his version of Elton John's Tonight https://www.youtube.com/w...QQ1oYTjGyQ

Also really love those songs and still play them often on my phone. Did you know monkey was produced by jimmy Jam & terry lewis ?

Yuuup, I love both versions nod

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