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Thread started 10/02/20 8:28am

funkbabyandthe
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Radiohead-blackest white band ever?

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Reply #1 posted 10/02/20 9:13am

RJOrion

no such thing as a "blackest white band"

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Reply #2 posted 10/02/20 10:29am

datdude

wait.....whuuut?!
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Reply #3 posted 10/02/20 11:33am

datdude

I bought their greatest hits. maybe not the best first exposure but severely underwhelmed. couldn't finish the article. seems like a big reach
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Reply #4 posted 10/02/20 1:27pm

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Sure, y not? lol
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Reply #5 posted 10/02/20 1:34pm

CynicKill

Having not read the article Radiohead have a little jazz influence. Is that what they mean?

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Reply #6 posted 10/02/20 1:56pm

alphastreet

Radiohead has no soul
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Reply #7 posted 10/02/20 2:15pm

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^ U lie hmph!
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Reply #8 posted 10/02/20 11:04pm

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Even over Living Colour?
[Edited 10/2/20 23:06pm]
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Reply #9 posted 10/03/20 1:12am

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No. They have some hip-hop type beats on some songs (see Kid A) but they do their own thing.. and quite well. Some of those 70's groups sounded "blacker" like Hall and Oates and even The Eagles to some degree. I'm sure there are even better examples that just aren't coming to mind right now.

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Reply #10 posted 10/03/20 5:58am

funkbabyandthe
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this was written by the writer who did an essay in the new SOTT book in the box set so i thought it deserved to be posted here lol

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Reply #11 posted 10/05/20 12:42am

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I never ever thought I'd see that written about Radiohead when I first saw them in the mid-90s, they feel like the very definition of starbucks hipster ofay - Radiohead make The Eagles seem like Three 6 Mafia. Why would a professor of African American studies write such things? 2020 keeps throwing up some wild claims but this takes the coffee cake, OK Com-boomer, this got to be a yikes from me Professor Brooks.

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Reply #12 posted 10/05/20 1:34am

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You've clearly never heard of Tuxedo. Go look up Tuxedo - Number One on YouTube. It's not even their best but damn! That sample!
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Reply #13 posted 10/05/20 6:42pm

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Wow. Radiohead is about as black as the Andy Griffith show.

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Reply #14 posted 10/05/20 10:37pm

kygermo

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Radiohead has no soul

Normally, I'd agree with this (and I love Radiohead for precisely this reason) but A Moon Shaped Pool changed that. Check out Identikit for some soul-baring sadness.

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Reply #15 posted 10/06/20 8:57am

namepeace

I don't know whether "our times" means a 20-year cutoff. For my twocents The Police had grooves for days. Zenyatta Mondatta has three of the funkiest basslines from any rock band ever.

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Reply #16 posted 10/07/20 4:05am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

https://www.theguardian.c...-our-times

ANSWER: Not hell no, not shit no, but m-----f--- no! no no no! The blackest [and funkest!] white band honors belongs to the Average White Band. wink

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Reply #17 posted 10/07/20 5:33am

RJOrion

namepeace said:

I don't know whether "our times" means a 20-year cutoff. For my twocents The Police had grooves for days. Zenyatta Mondatta has three of the funkiest basslines from any rock band ever.

[Edited 10/6/20 10:29am]

if forced to pick, id definitely pick The Police... my favorite white band ever... Stewart Copeland's heavy-handed Michael Blandish drumming and Sting's reggae influenced basslines, Andy Summers unique rhythmic guitar picking... alotta grooves from those 3

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Reply #18 posted 10/07/20 8:05am

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u mean Led Zep.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #19 posted 10/07/20 8:43am

namepeace

TonyVanDam said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

https://www.theguardian.c...-our-times

ANSWER: Not hell no, not shit no, but m-----f--- no! no no no! The blackest [and funkest!] white band honors belongs to the Average White Band. wink


That was the first band that came to mind, but I think she tried to finesse her position by saying "of our time," and seemed to limit the period to 20 years. And even then I still wouldn't pick Radiohead as the "blackest white band" of the last 20 years as much as I like and respect their work.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #20 posted 10/07/20 8:43am

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RJOrion said:

namepeace said:

I don't know whether "our times" means a 20-year cutoff. For my twocents The Police had grooves for days. Zenyatta Mondatta has three of the funkiest basslines from any rock band ever.

[Edited 10/6/20 10:29am]

if forced to pick, id definitely pick The Police... my favorite white band ever... Stewart Copeland's heavy-handed Michael Blandish drumming and Sting's reggae influenced basslines, Andy Summers unique rhythmic guitar picking... alotta grooves from those 3


nod Steely Dan came to mind too.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #21 posted 10/07/20 9:30am

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Woeful article there in the Guardian. "Black" as generic replacement for hundreds of words meaning whatever positive thing you like.

[Edited 10/7/20 9:34am]

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Reply #22 posted 10/08/20 5:52am

Nightcrawler

I adore Radiohead - but they don´t sound very black to me. in the category "Blackest sounding white band", f.e. Jamiroquai would be better suited. And I´m sure, there are many more examples.

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Reply #23 posted 10/08/20 8:58am

ThePersian

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

this was written by the writer who did an essay in the new SOTT book in the box set so i thought it deserved to be posted here lol

lol - it's worse than the Sign of the Times booklet essay...

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Reply #24 posted 10/08/20 12:35pm

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Average White Band

Katie Kinisky: "So What Are The Latest Dances, Nell?"
Nell Carter: "Anything The Black Folks did Last Year"
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Reply #25 posted 10/08/20 12:51pm

RJOrion

KC & The Sunshine Band came to mind, but that was just a white dude faking the funk in front of a mostly black band

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Reply #26 posted 10/08/20 1:42pm

CynicKill

RJOrion said:

KC & The Sunshine Band came to mind, but that was just a white dude faking the funk in front of a mostly black band

Didn't he write the songs though?

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Reply #27 posted 10/08/20 2:28pm

Abdul

MotorBootyAffair said:

Average White Band

Bingo!

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Reply #28 posted 10/08/20 2:31pm

RJOrion

CynicKill said:



RJOrion said:


KC & The Sunshine Band came to mind, but that was just a white dude faking the funk in front of a mostly black band



Didn't he write the songs though?



he didnt arrange or compose the music...the band's sound is what made them sound "black"...that was the TK Records house band/session artists that were in place before KC&TSB even formed. that band played on records by Betty Wright, George & Gwen McCrae, Peter Brown, Foxy, etc... all those session musicians playing on hits by those artists, ended up becoming The Sunshine Band...and except for 1 or 2 horn players, they were all black...in performances, KC (harry casey) would stand behind a keyboard and act like he was playing it... as far as "writing songs", 'shake your booty' and 'get down tonight' are elementary school level lyricism, made catchy, and fattened up by some serious Miami funk.. Harry Casey was a fraud as an artist, but he was apparently very intelligent, well connected and opportunistic.
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Reply #29 posted 10/08/20 2:54pm

CynicKill

RJOrion said:

CynicKill said:

Didn't he write the songs though?

he didnt arrange or compose the music...the band's sound is what made them sound "black"...that was the TK Records house band/session artists that were in place before KC&TSB even formed. that band played on records by Betty Wright, George & Gwen McCrae, Peter Brown, Foxy, etc... all those session musicians playing on hits by those artists, ended up becoming The Sunshine Band...and except for 1 or 2 horn players, they were all black...in performances, KC (harry casey) would stand behind a keyboard and act like he was playing it... as far as "writing songs", 'shake your booty' and 'get down tonight' are elementary school level lyricism, made catchy, and fattened up by some serious Miami funk.. Harry Casey was a fraud as an artist, but he was apparently very intelligent, well connected and opportunistic.

Thanks for the info.

I should've known KC did WAY too much bopping behind that keyboard to be actually playing it.

Session careers, which thrived in the 70's, seems all but dead now.

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