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Thread started 05/04/03 11:57am

bananacologne

The Golden Age of Grotesque...

Ive just finished listening 2 the new Marilyn Manson album. HOLY SH*T! It's awesome.
Ive been a fan since way back in the days of 'Portrait of An American Family'
(Im still convinced I was one of the first few people in England 2 get my mitts on that album)
THIS is quite simply, an amazing album. I think Manson had a lot 2 prove with this one, and it is no let down. Listening 2 it feels like being pummeled with a piece of 2x4!
Classic Manson - but with a whole kinda Germanic, Burlesque, Freak-show kinda twist. Imagine Manson meets Leni Riefenstahl, David Lynch, and 'Low'/Berlin era Bowie, and you're half-way there!



Stand-out trax:
Use Your Fist and Not Your Mouth
Slutgarden
mOBSCENE (current single - wicked video!)
Spade
and This Is The New Shit
but my fave off the album has 2 be:
Doll-Dagga Buzz-Buzz Ziggety-Zag - if there is one song off it that sums the whole package up, its this one!




One thing I will say tho, is expect the unexpected.
If u can hang on 4 dear life, it's one amazing ride.

Marilyn Manson releases "The Golden Age of Grotesque" on May 13, 2003 on Interscope Records.
CHECK IT OUT!

Tracked as follows:

Intro
This Is The New Shit
mOBSCENE
Doll-Dagga Buzz-Buzz Ziggety-Zag
Use Your Fist And Not Your Mouth
The Golden Age Of Grotesque
(s)AINT
Ka-Boom Ka-Boom
Slutgarden
Spade
Para-noir
The Bright Young Things
Better Of Two Evils
Vodevil
Obsequy (The Death Of Art)

The album's produced by Marilyn Manson and Tim Skold (previously of Shotgun Messiah & Front 242) and mixed by Ben Grosse.


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Reply #1 posted 05/04/03 12:08pm

Handclapsfinga
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guess i'd be excited if i still were a manson fan. shrug
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Reply #2 posted 05/04/03 12:38pm

bananacologne

Awww Handclapz...ye of little faith! hug
Trust me, it's the best thing since 'Antichrist Superstar' - if not BETTER in my mind...
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Reply #3 posted 05/04/03 12:44pm

TRON

cool pix
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Reply #4 posted 05/04/03 1:12pm

Handclapsfinga
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bananacologne said:

Awww Handclapz...ye of little faith! hug
Trust me, it's the best thing since 'Antichrist Superstar' - if not BETTER in my mind...

antichrist is what made me stop bein a fan...i got into manson when he wasn't all that well-known (portrait is still my fave album of his). everything wuz hunky-dory till his remake of "sweet dreams" hit the airwaves and all the abercrombie & fitch-types started lovin it just cuz he had a hit song...ill
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Reply #5 posted 05/04/03 2:01pm

bananacologne

I was a fan before 'Portrait..' broke them... (as my post sez upstairs...)


but Antichrist is their best album (prior 2 this one!) 4 song structure and dynamic production (I cant fault Mr Reznor!)



The production on this is monster tho. nod
Point taken, but I do think a lot of people tend 2 go off bands when they 'break' a market, which is a really strange thing. There's no shame in liking a band WHEN they're big. WHEN they gain that fame and noteriety - in fact, that was pretty much 'Antichrist Superstar' was all about. He took that whole ethos that Bowie had created around re-invention in the seventies, gave it a contemporary shake up, and then regurgitated it back out in2 the mainstream.

Sure, it was nothing new - but the guy was clever enough 2 realise that he could apply it 2 what he was doing, AND make it work. America loved every column-inch making minute of it, they lapped up whatever He spoon-fed the media. Gotta give the guy credit, it never really backfired on him (even thru the whole Columbine 'controversy')



He created a monster - HIMSELF.



The amount of my friends Ive seen do that (get in2 a band when they are starting out, or on the verge of breaking, then suddenly descibe them as 'crap' when they are getting the exposure THEY had previously craved 4 them 2 achieve) never ceased 2 amaze me. I dunno I just dont get it shrug

At the end of the day - it's the MUSIC that should matter. And I do understand that it's 'differnet strokes 4 different folks' (Hell, I didnt like Manson's 'Holywood' album) But not liking a rock band anymore just because they've cut their hair short 4 example, is ridiculous. Metallica being a case in point - I felt sorry 4 them. Ok, 'Load' wasnt the best album they've done by FAR - but look at it this way - if they'd done 'The Black Album#2' sure, it would've sold - but I doubt they would have had much more longevity in them afterwards.

It's a fine line these artists take - we dont always LIKE what they do, and maybe even HOW they do it, but standing still instead of running ahead of the pack isnt gonna get anyone anywhere. Same with Prince - if He'd hadnt followed-up Purple Rain with ATWIAD I doubt very much he'd be here in the CAPACITY that he is now. 4 that, Im glad. As Im sure we all are.


I'm very interested in what this new album is gonna do 4 Marilyn Manson - I predict good things 4 it. I think they've made their DEFINING album here...

THE CIRCUSSS...ISSS COMING 2 TOWN...evillol


I've not been this excited about an album in quite some time.
As u can probably tell rolleyes
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Reply #6 posted 05/04/03 2:15pm

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The new pix are awesome. I'm gonna pick up the issue of The Face.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #7 posted 05/04/03 2:20pm

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"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #8 posted 05/04/03 4:57pm

bananacologne



The Dead Rock Star
by Marilyn Manson

Jesus was the first rock star. The cross is the biggest, greatest piece of merchandise in history, bigger than any concert T-Shirt. And Jesus was the first dead rock star. Like Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain and Jimi Hendrix, he became immortal by dying. A dead rock star becomes perfect, and he’ll be that forever. He’ll never change, never get old, never turn into something less great than at his peak, at the moment of his death.
It’s not just death that turns you into an icon. It’s how many people are watching when you die, and the way the camera can turn you into a martyr. I had a song on my last record called "Lamb of God" about just that. It was inspired by Jesus, John Lennon and John Kennedy. We’re not just fascinated with death. We’re in love with death, because we’re so afraid of it. And the people who live their lives close to death, or who die tragically, are the ones we’re going to fantasize about the most. It is escapism, it’s voyeurism, it’s escapism, it’s voyeurism, it’s living vicariously. Or dying vicariously.
Jim Morrison had a shamen quality to him; he was a shirtless Christlike figure. He was inspiring. He bought darkness into the mainstream, right in the middle of the Summer of Love. He did and said what he wanted, and he behaved like a child, which is admirable and beautiful. I have Jim Morrison to thank for making me want to write, and for making me want to take acid, and for making me want to expose myself in Florida.
I remember reading "No One Here Gets Out Alive" when I was in the tenth grade, and that made me want to write. I have always, since I was a fourteen years old, written thing in my journals, and have always been very protective of things that I put down in paper. I have a hard time committing my personal feelings and my deepest, darkest secrets to a place where someone will be able to obtain them.
Morrison’s enduring strength as a historical figure is in his mystery. I think the modern, contemporary treatment of rock stars on MTV and the voyeuristic world of reality TV are a great threat to anyone who wants to retain any sort of value throughout history. My whole life, I have tried to steer clear from "behind the scenes" things. They take away from the power of what you do. If you start explaining your tricks, then you are a shitty magician. I’m watching all these other people piss away what could be great works of art by going on "Cribs". You can be legendary for not doing anything because of this voyeuristic culture that we live in. You can be famous for "surviving" something, or for marrying a millionaire, or for being a victim of a crime. It’s a strange time that we are in now.
With Jim Morrison, it’s the dark sexual element. You want to grow up to be like him. With Kurt Cobain, it’s about relating to his pain and understanding how close death’s door is. When I was just about to start a band in 1989, I was still a journalist, and I got a promo pack from Sub Pop records with Bleach and a black-and-white glossy photo of Nirvana. There was something really dark and alluring about the record. And that feeling hits you every time you hear one of their songs. You can hear a tear in his voice, the pain going on there.
When Cobain died, no one was very much surprised. I was disappointed, but I think a part of me was relieved because it seemed like he was suffering so much in the last years of his life, and his suffering was over, if anything. He despised being the rock star he ended up being. But like Morrison and Hendrix, he was proof that the most amazing art comes from people who are living their lives like there is no tomorrow.
~ Marilyn Manson, Holywood. 2003
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