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Thread started 05/11/20 6:40pm

alphastreet

Music box vs. butterfly, which Mariah record is better?

I can’t choose between the two and have to go with both. Which one do you find better, to be the superior album and why?
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Reply #1 posted 05/11/20 7:26pm

kitbradley

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"Musicbox" for me. Strangely, mainly becsuse of the two tracks that didnt make it onto the U.S. pressing of the CD. "Everything Fades Away" (with a guest vocal from Will Downing) is one of my favorite Mimi tracks but only appeared on the import pressings. "Do You Think of Me", the non- album b side to "Dreamlover" is also another one of my favorites. While the "Butterfly" album was good, I didnt connect as strongly to any of the songs. The gusto that she normally had in her voice was also gone. The only song she belted was the title track and that ended too soon.
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Reply #2 posted 05/11/20 7:59pm

alphastreet

Everything fades away is great! I could play that one on repeat
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Reply #3 posted 05/11/20 9:43pm

hollywood0024

alphastreet said:

Everything fades away is great! I could play that one on repeat

Music Box.
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Reply #4 posted 05/12/20 7:46am

kitbradley

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alphastreet said:

Everything fades away is great! I could play that one on repeat

I do! biggrin My #3 favorite Mimi song! 1) Can't Let Go 2) The Wind

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Reply #5 posted 05/12/20 11:41am

alphastreet

kitbradley said:



alphastreet said:


Everything fades away is great! I could play that one on repeat

I do! biggrin My #3 favorite Mimi song! 1) Can't Let Go 2) The Wind



Can’t let go is one of her best songs ever!
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Reply #6 posted 05/12/20 12:44pm

Cinny

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Glitter boxed

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Reply #7 posted 05/12/20 1:15pm

alphastreet

Cinny said:

Glitter boxed



Aw really? I agree some of her best work is on there but as an album start to finish, not even on the same level as butterfly
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Reply #8 posted 05/12/20 7:11pm

slyjackson

For me Butterfly is her best album, and the album I like the most. I like Music Box a lot, but what a shame she didn't include Everything Fades Away and Do You Think Of Me on Music Box and Slippin Away on Daydream, those albums would have been much better had them been included.

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Reply #9 posted 05/12/20 7:26pm

alphastreet

I’ve never heard slippin away, will have to check it out
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Reply #10 posted 05/13/20 6:11am

kitbradley

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slyjackson said:

For me Butterfly is her best album, and the album I like the most. I like Music Box a lot, but what a shame she didn't include Everything Fades Away and Do You Think Of Me on Music Box and Slippin Away on Daydream, those albums would have been much better had them been included.

I don't know why "Slipping Away" wasn't included on the "Daydream" album. Another excellent tune that too many people missed out on. But, as far as the other two tunes from "Musicbox", I heard from a couple of different sources that Tommy left them off the CD because he didn't want the album to sound as R&B as "Emotions". He wanted a stronger overall Pop feel since "Emotions", which leaned more towards R&B, was considered a flop at the time with "only" 3 million copies sold. How times have changed. 3 million copies sold in 2020 would be considered a massive success.

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Reply #11 posted 05/13/20 11:54am

Cinny

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alphastreet said:

Cinny said:

Glitter boxed

Aw really? I agree some of her best work is on there but as an album start to finish, not even on the same level as butterfly

You're probably right but it's like... aside from "Honey" I never go back to it.

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Reply #12 posted 05/13/20 11:56am

looby

There are certain songs I like from both, but I choose Music Box.

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Reply #13 posted 05/13/20 6:26pm

slyjackson

kitbradley said:

slyjackson said:

For me Butterfly is her best album, and the album I like the most. I like Music Box a lot, but what a shame she didn't include Everything Fades Away and Do You Think Of Me on Music Box and Slippin Away on Daydream, those albums would have been much better had them been included.

I don't know why "Slipping Away" wasn't included on the "Daydream" album. Another excellent tune that too many people missed out on. But, as far as the other two tunes from "Musicbox", I heard from a couple of different sources that Tommy left them off the CD because he didn't want the album to sound as R&B as "Emotions". He wanted a stronger overall Pop feel since "Emotions", which leaned more towards R&B, was considered a flop at the time with "only" 3 million copies sold. How times have changed. 3 million copies sold in 2020 would be considered a massive success.

I don't get why those wonderful songs aren't on streaming platforms at least.

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Reply #14 posted 05/19/20 2:55pm

alphastreet

Didn’t realize the songs aren’t on a streaming platform
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Reply #15 posted 05/19/20 5:10pm

slyjackson

alphastreet said:

Didn’t realize the songs aren’t on a streaming platform

What a crime is that.

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Reply #16 posted 05/19/20 7:05pm

alphastreet

Yeah totally
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Reply #17 posted 05/20/20 7:55am

Cinny

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Music Box kinda transports me to being 13 years old again, and that's not always the best. lol

I also find SOME of C&C's production too tacky to enjoy anymore. ill

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Reply #18 posted 05/20/20 12:58pm

slyjackson

Cinny said:

Music Box kinda transports me to being 13 years old again, and that's not always the best. lol

I also find SOME of C&C's production too tacky to enjoy anymore. ill

Tacky in which way, what songs do you think are tacky?

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Reply #19 posted 05/20/20 5:22pm

alphastreet

slyjackson said:



Cinny said:


Music Box kinda transports me to being 13 years old again, and that's not always the best. lol

I also find SOME of C&C's production too tacky to enjoy anymore. ill



Tacky in which way, what songs do you think are tacky?



Im guessing he meant the two dance tracks on music box and maybe their early 90s work
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Reply #20 posted 05/21/20 2:07am

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alphastreet said:

Cinny said:

Glitter boxed

Aw really? I agree some of her best work is on there but as an album start to finish, not even on the same level as butterfly

I agree. It's a shame that the movie and negative publicity surrounding her at that time ruined a solid album. Glitter is definitely her most underrated album. My favorite album by her is Daydream.

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Reply #21 posted 05/21/20 10:54am

alphastreet

phunkdaddy said:



alphastreet said:


Cinny said:

Glitter boxed



Aw really? I agree some of her best work is on there but as an album start to finish, not even on the same level as butterfly


I agree. It's a shame that the movie and negative publicity surrounding her at that time ruined a solid album. Glitter is definitely her most underrated album. My favorite album by her is Daydream.



Yeah I agree some of her best work is on glitter, but just a few as standout singles. Lead the way and want you are my most favourites
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Reply #22 posted 05/22/20 10:01am

Cinny

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alphastreet said:

slyjackson said:

Tacky in which way, what songs do you think are tacky?

Im guessing he meant the two dance tracks on music box and maybe their early 90s work


No I like a lot of their dance stuff from the early 90s, especially Seduction. But I prefer what they did on Emotions over Music Box.

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Reply #23 posted 05/22/20 1:02pm

alphastreet

Cinny said:



alphastreet said:


slyjackson said:


Tacky in which way, what songs do you think are tacky?



Im guessing he meant the two dance tracks on music box and maybe their early 90s work


No I like a lot of their dance stuff from the early 90s, especially Seduction. But I prefer what they did on Emotions over Music Box.



Their work on emotions is fabulous for sure!
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Reply #24 posted 05/22/20 1:36pm

slyjackson

Her latest album is a great recent offering she sounds modern without losing her essence. Caution is such a great album.

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Reply #25 posted 05/22/20 2:59pm

alphastreet

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Her latest album is a great recent offering she sounds modern without losing her essence. Caution is such a great album.



I also really love the caution album and was playing it today. I regret not going for the tour
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Reply #26 posted 05/22/20 4:23pm

slyjackson

alphastreet said:

slyjackson said:

Her latest album is a great recent offering she sounds modern without losing her essence. Caution is such a great album.

I also really love the caution album and was playing it today. I regret not going for the tour

My favorites might be GTFO and Givin Me Life.

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Reply #27 posted 05/22/20 4:26pm

alphastreet

Cool, mine are Portrait, A No No and 8th grade
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Reply #28 posted 05/22/20 4:51pm

slyjackson

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Cool, mine are Portrait, A No No and 8th grade

Love those as well, love the whole album.

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Reply #29 posted 05/22/20 5:20pm

alphastreet

I wish it sold more and gave Mariah another number one
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