Reply #60 posted 05/14/20 1:08pm
RJOrion |
MarshallStacks said: All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie?? nothing lasts forever...especially greatness...Stevie Wonder contributed far more great music over a longer period of time than almost anyone...and not just for himself either...there will come a day when you too wont be able to do certain things as well as you used to do them, or even be able to do them at all..and thats quite alright...its part of the circle of life |
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Reply #61 posted 05/14/20 1:10pm
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herb4 said:
MarshallStacks said:
All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie??
"Age"
Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.
My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots .
I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order? |
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Reply #62 posted 05/14/20 1:14pm
SoulAlive |
MarshallStacks said:
herb4 said:
"Age"
Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.
My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots .
I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order?
Stevie has given us so much,for so many years.I'd love some new music from him,but I'm OK if he doesn't want to put out a new album.We have enough Stevie Wonder music to last a lifetime. |
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Reply #63 posted 05/14/20 1:17pm
RJOrion |
slyjackson said:
herb4 said:
MarshallStacks said: All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie??
"Age"
Well he's not that old, and sure wasn't back in 2005 when he released his last album, he was only 55. LOL...huh?...who do you know at 70 or 55 for that matter that can still do the things they did in their youth?... do you know how much spiritual, physical, and emotional energy, and time it takes to create original music?...name a 70 year old musician still creating music at the same pace and same quality as when they were younger |
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Reply #64 posted 05/14/20 1:27pm
RJOrion |
MarshallStacks said:
herb4 said:
MarshallStacks said: All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie??
"Age"
Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys. My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots . I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order? youre forgetting one very important factor when comparing Stevie Wonder to the others you mentioned who are running on fumes and releasing subpar efforts...Stevie Wonder IS BLIND!...the rest of them cats can see things...good lord, the disrespect shown to artists of color is amazing...talkin bout his "procrastination" and downplaying his kidney transplant like hes some kind of machine or beast of burden, placed on Earth solely for your entertainment purposes...wheres your Talking Book?...wheres your Songs In The Key Of Life?. |
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Reply #65 posted 05/14/20 1:57pm
slyjackson |
RJOrion said:
slyjackson said:
Well he's not that old, and sure wasn't back in 2005 when he released his last album, he was only 55.
LOL...huh?...who do you know at 70 or 55 for that matter that can still do the things they did in their youth?... do you know how much spiritual, physical, and emotional energy, and time it takes to create original music?...name a 70 year old musician still creating music at the same pace and same quality as when they were younger
Bob Dylan and I would say Paul McCartney. |
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Reply #66 posted 05/14/20 1:59pm
slyjackson |
RJOrion said:
MarshallStacks said:
Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.
My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots .
I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order?
youre forgetting one very important factor when comparing Stevie Wonder to the others you mentioned who are running on fumes and releasing subpar efforts...Stevie Wonder IS BLIND!...the rest of them cats can see things...good lord, the disrespect shown to artists of color is amazing...talkin bout his "procrastination" and downplaying his kidney transplant like hes some kind of machine or beast of burden, placed on Earth solely for your entertainment purposes...wheres your Talking Book?...wheres your Songs In The Key Of Life?.
Yeah you're right I was just saying back in 2005 he wasn't that old, but he's free to decide his own terms for release music of course. |
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Reply #67 posted 05/14/20 2:09pm
herb4 |
slyjackson said:
herb4 said:
"Age"
Well he's not that old, and sure wasn't back in 2005 when he released his last album, he was only 55.
"only"
Rock and Roll is for the young and is charged with energy that I can assure you wanes at 55.
I'm 53, haven't accompished 2% of what Stevie has and stuggle to be creative even without his bank account.
This stuff is charged with sexuality, energy and passion that quite simply just fades with age, especially if you're rich, comfortable and don't have to really answer to anyone.
Asking questions like "why didn't Prince do more/better" and "what happened to Stevie?" is a fool's game IMO.
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Reply #68 posted 05/14/20 2:12pm
novabrkr |
Black Man
Love's In Need Of Love Today
Ecclesiastes
Joy Inside My Tears
Superstition
I Wish
Front Line
Contusion
For Your Love (sue me, I like it)
Just Good Friends (just kidding, "You Are The Sunshine Of Your Love") |
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Reply #69 posted 05/14/20 3:26pm
MarshallStacks
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RJOrion said:
MarshallStacks said:
Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.
My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots .
I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order?
youre forgetting one very important factor when comparing Stevie Wonder to the others you mentioned who are running on fumes and releasing subpar efforts...Stevie Wonder IS BLIND!...the rest of them cats can see things...good lord, the disrespect shown to artists of color is amazing...talkin bout his "procrastination" and downplaying his kidney transplant like hes some kind of machine or beast of burden, placed on Earth solely for your entertainment purposes...wheres your Talking Book?...wheres your Songs In The Key Of Life?.
No disrespect from here, quite the opposite. Certainly not disprespect due to colour, no need to bring that into the discussion. It would just be exciting, from a light-hearted, purely selfish fan's viewpoint, if Stevie had been/ was able to release say one very good/great new album. Because he has produced greatness in the past, maybe, just maybe he could again. That's why one might 'expect' more from him than from some other mediocre artist.
If that's not to be or ain't his scene, then peace ... He sure done plenty already
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Reply #70 posted 05/14/20 3:51pm
namepeace |
slyjackson said:
RJOrion said:
slyjackson said: for years i thought the name of the song was always
It is from this day on.
I don't know y'all -- the original title works.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Reply #71 posted 05/14/20 5:02pm
whodknee
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Ribbon In The Sky
You and I
Happier Than the Morning Sun
Living for The City
My Cherie Amour
As
Summer Soft
Another Star
Visions
That Girl
10 is a ridiculous number |
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Reply #72 posted 05/14/20 5:07pm
slyjackson |
namepeace said:
slyjackson said:
It is from this day on.
I don't know y'all -- the original title works.
It doesn't |
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Reply #73 posted 05/14/20 6:38pm
slyjackson |
Stevie 70's output was remarkable but Al Green's output at that same period it as as great if not better, but he doesn't get as celebrated as Stevie |
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Reply #74 posted 05/14/20 6:39pm
slyjackson |
MarshallStacks said:
All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie??
I think his last album from his classic era or golden era is Hotter Than July. |
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Reply #75 posted 05/14/20 7:05pm
PURplEMaPLeSyr up |
power flower
outside my window
black orchid
come back as a flower
same old story
kesse ye lolo de ye
all day sucker
someday at christmas
isnt she lovely
my cherie amour flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup |
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Reply #76 posted 05/14/20 7:28pm
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slyjackson said:
Stevie 70's output was remarkable but Al Green's output at that same period it as as great if not better, but he doesn't get as celebrated as Stevie
A person that sells more is always going to get talked about more in the media. Stevie got radio airplay on R&B and pop stations long before and after Al. Stevie's first record came out in 1962 and it was a hit. Al didn't really get popular until his 3rd album in 1971. Al was on Hi Records and Hi was kinda like 1960s Motown. A lot of Hi songs had a similar sound because Willie Mitchell produced most of the records and the same house band & background singers were used. Just had different singers on the records like Ann Peebles or O.V. Wright. Stevie's 1970s music did not really sound like the other artists on Motown. Stevie & Marvin Gaye fought the Motown assembly line system.
Al left secular music at the height of his popularity in the mid-1970s to become a preacher and then started exclusively releasing gospel records. Which is the same thing Little Richard did in the 1950s. Gospel doesn't get mainstream attention and religious songs have rarely become radio hit singles. So Al did not get the mainstream attention like Stevie continued to do. Al didn't really start making secular songs again until around the 1990s, and by then his radio play days were mostly over. He did get a few radio hits with duets with Annie Lennox & Ann Nesby and the song Al B Sure! produced. He did start singing some of his old secular hits in concert during the 1980s. Stevie did not have any scandal either. It was said that the story behind the Mary Woodson "grits" incident hurt Al's radio airplay on R&B stations and his popularity with many of his female fans at the time.
[Edited 5/14/20 19:33pm] You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton |
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Reply #77 posted 05/14/20 7:32pm
slyjackson |
PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:
power flower
outside my window
black orchid
come back as a flower
same old story
kesse ye lolo de ye
all day sucker
someday at christmas
isnt she lovely
my cherie amour
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Reply #78 posted 05/14/20 7:40pm
slyjackson |
MickyDolenz said:
slyjackson said:
Stevie 70's output was remarkable but Al Green's output at that same period it as as great if not better, but he doesn't get as celebrated as Stevie
A person that sells more is always going to get talked about more in the media. Stevie got radio airplay on R&B and pop stations long before and after Al. Stevie's first record came out in 1962 and it was a hit. Al didn't really get popular until his 3rd album in 1971. Al was on Hi Records and Hi was kinda like 1960s Motown. A lot of Hi songs had a similar sound because Willie Mitchell produced most of the records and the same house band & background singers were used. Just had different singers on the records like Ann Peebles or O.V. Wright. Stevie's 1970s music did not really sound like the other artists on Motown. Stevie & Marvin Gaye fought the Motown assembly line system.
Al left secular music at the height of his popularity in the mid-1970s to become a preacher and then started exclusively releasing gospel records. Which is the same thing Little Richard did in the 1950s. Gospel doesn't get mainstream attention and religious songs have rarely become radio hit singles. So Al did not get the mainstream attention like Stevie continued to do. Al didn't really start making secular songs again until around the 1990s, and by then his radio play days were mostly over. He did get a few radio hits with duets with Annie Lennox & Ann Nesby and the song Al B Sure! produced. He did start singing some of his old secular hits in concert during the 1980s. Stevie did not have any scandal either. It was said that the story behind the Mary Woodson "grits" incident hurt Al's radio airplay on R&B stations and his popularity with many of his female fans at the time.
[Edited 5/14/20 19:33pm]
It was late 70's to be precise. |
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Reply #79 posted 05/14/20 8:11pm
PURplEMaPLeSyr up |
slyjackson said:
PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:
power flower
outside my window
black orchid
come back as a flower
same old story
kesse ye lolo de ye
all day sucker
someday at christmas
isnt she lovely
my cherie amour
You do love Secret Life, don't you?
lol learned about it from prince, a turning point in my life flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup |
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Reply #80 posted 05/15/20 1:13am
SoulAlive |
slyjackson said:
Stevie 70's output was remarkable but Al Green's output at that same period it as as great if not better, but he doesn't get as celebrated as Stevie
Al Green is great.....a soul music icon.....but Stevie was on another whole level.Al has some good albums,but he doesn't have something like Innervisions or Songs In The Key Of Life in his catalog. |
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Reply #81 posted 05/15/20 8:54am
namepeace |
slyjackson said:
namepeace said:
I don't know y'all -- the original title works.
It doesn't
Agree to disagree.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Reply #82 posted 05/16/20 4:02pm
S2DG |
The Wonderlove set list...
That's it...didn't think I could do it but that's my top ten. |
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Reply #83 posted 05/16/20 6:54pm
datdude |
wow. so hard. love Stevie. i scanned the lists pretty well and surprised to not see a few that make my list.
1) Superwoman/Where Were You When I Needed You
2) Rocket Love
3) Jesus Children of America
4) Heaven is 10 Zillion Light Years Away
5) Send One Your Love
6) As
7) I Am Singing
8) Lately
9) Overjoyed
10) Dark 'N Lovely |
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Reply #84 posted 05/18/20 1:26pm
SoulAlive |
love this one!
datdude said:
1) Superwoman/Where Were You When I Needed You
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Reply #85 posted 05/22/20 3:59pm
paligap |
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Golden Lady
Tuesday Heartbreak
Knocks Me Off My Feet
Higher Ground
Feeding Off The Love of the Land
Heaven Is 10 Zillion Light Years Away
Superwoman/Where Were You
Looking for Another Pure Love
Sir Duke
Power Flower
... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout |
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Reply #86 posted 05/22/20 4:19pm
slyjackson |
paligap said:
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Golden Lady
Tuesday Heartbreak
Knocks Me Off My Feet
Higher Ground
Feeding Off The Love of the Land
Heaven Is 10 Zillion Light Years Away
Superwoman/Where Were You
Looking for Another Pure Love
Sir Duke
Power Flower
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Great picks. |
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Reply #87 posted 05/29/20 5:22am
Romeoblu |
Creepin' Superstition Maybe Your Baby All I Do Jesus Children of America Ordinary Pain Rocket Love Golden Lady I Love You Too Much Looking For Another Pure Love. |
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Reply #88 posted 05/29/20 2:13pm
SoulAlive |
Romeoblu said:
Creepin'
this one is on my list,too.I love the haunting melody of this song.Luther did a great remake in the 80s. |
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Reply #89 posted 05/29/20 4:20pm
TD3 |
- You Haven't Donin Nothin'
- Don't Worry About a Thing
- My Cherie Amour
- Knocks Me On My Feet
- Living for The City
- PastTime Paradise
- Visions
- All in Love is Fair
- Send One Your Love
- HIgher Ground
- I Wish
- AS
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