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Reply #60 posted 05/14/20 1:08pm

RJOrion

MarshallStacks said:

All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮

Like, what happened, Stevie?? eek neutral



nothing lasts forever...especially greatness...Stevie Wonder contributed far more great music over a longer period of time than almost anyone...and not just for himself either...there will come a day when you too wont be able to do certain things as well as you used to do them, or even be able to do them at all..and thats quite alright...its part of the circle of life
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Reply #61 posted 05/14/20 1:10pm

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MarshallStacks said:

All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie?? eek neutral

"Age"

Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.

My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots confused.

I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order? lol

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Reply #62 posted 05/14/20 1:14pm

SoulAlive

MarshallStacks said:

herb4 said:

"Age"

Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.

My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots confused.

I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order? lol

Stevie has given us so much,for so many years.I'd love some new music from him,but I'm OK if he doesn't want to put out a new album.We have enough Stevie Wonder music to last a lifetime.

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Reply #63 posted 05/14/20 1:17pm

RJOrion

slyjackson said:



herb4 said:




MarshallStacks said:


All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie?? eek neutral


"Age"



Well he's not that old, and sure wasn't back in 2005 when he released his last album, he was only 55.



LOL...huh?...who do you know at 70 or 55 for that matter that can still do the things they did in their youth?... do you know how much spiritual, physical, and emotional energy, and time it takes to create original music?...name a 70 year old musician still creating music at the same pace and same quality as when they were younger
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Reply #64 posted 05/14/20 1:27pm

RJOrion

MarshallStacks said:



herb4 said:




MarshallStacks said:


All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie?? eek neutral


"Age"




Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.



My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots confused.



I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order? lol




youre forgetting one very important factor when comparing Stevie Wonder to the others you mentioned who are running on fumes and releasing subpar efforts...Stevie Wonder IS BLIND!...the rest of them cats can see things...good lord, the disrespect shown to artists of color is amazing...talkin bout his "procrastination" and downplaying his kidney transplant like hes some kind of machine or beast of burden, placed on Earth solely for your entertainment purposes...wheres your Talking Book?...wheres your Songs In The Key Of Life?.
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Reply #65 posted 05/14/20 1:57pm

slyjackson

RJOrion said:

slyjackson said:

Well he's not that old, and sure wasn't back in 2005 when he released his last album, he was only 55.

LOL...huh?...who do you know at 70 or 55 for that matter that can still do the things they did in their youth?... do you know how much spiritual, physical, and emotional energy, and time it takes to create original music?...name a 70 year old musician still creating music at the same pace and same quality as when they were younger

Bob Dylan and I would say Paul McCartney.

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Reply #66 posted 05/14/20 1:59pm

slyjackson

RJOrion said:

MarshallStacks said:

Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.

My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots confused.

I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order? lol

youre forgetting one very important factor when comparing Stevie Wonder to the others you mentioned who are running on fumes and releasing subpar efforts...Stevie Wonder IS BLIND!...the rest of them cats can see things...good lord, the disrespect shown to artists of color is amazing...talkin bout his "procrastination" and downplaying his kidney transplant like hes some kind of machine or beast of burden, placed on Earth solely for your entertainment purposes...wheres your Talking Book?...wheres your Songs In The Key Of Life?.

Yeah you're right I was just saying back in 2005 he wasn't that old, but he's free to decide his own terms for release music of course.

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Reply #67 posted 05/14/20 2:09pm

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slyjackson said:

herb4 said:

"Age"

Well he's not that old, and sure wasn't back in 2005 when he released his last album, he was only 55.


"only"

Rock and Roll is for the young and is charged with energy that I can assure you wanes at 55.

I'm 53, haven't accompished 2% of what Stevie has and stuggle to be creative even without his bank account.

This stuff is charged with sexuality, energy and passion that quite simply just fades with age, especially if you're rich, comfortable and don't have to really answer to anyone.

Asking questions like "why didn't Prince do more/better" and "what happened to Stevie?" is a fool's game IMO.

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Reply #68 posted 05/14/20 2:12pm

novabrkr

Black Man

Love's In Need Of Love Today

Ecclesiastes

Joy Inside My Tears

Superstition

I Wish

Front Line

Contusion

For Your Love (sue me, I like it)

Just Good Friends (just kidding, "You Are The Sunshine Of Your Love")

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Reply #69 posted 05/14/20 3:26pm

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RJOrion said:

MarshallStacks said:

Maybe, but age hasn't stopped George Clinton, Paul Mccartney, Bob Dylan etc creating. And Stevie's voice is arguably in better condition than those guys.

My guess is more like a lack of fire to create, being set in his ways, procrastination and over-perfectionism. He's teased around three different albums that he's 'working on' over the last decade or so and his only releases are collabs with other artists and guest spots confused.

I know Stevie had a kidney transplant last year, so hope he's doing well. Maybe some ... er, music therapy might be in order? lol

youre forgetting one very important factor when comparing Stevie Wonder to the others you mentioned who are running on fumes and releasing subpar efforts...Stevie Wonder IS BLIND!...the rest of them cats can see things...good lord, the disrespect shown to artists of color is amazing...talkin bout his "procrastination" and downplaying his kidney transplant like hes some kind of machine or beast of burden, placed on Earth solely for your entertainment purposes...wheres your Talking Book?...wheres your Songs In The Key Of Life?.

eek No disrespect from here, quite the opposite. Certainly not disprespect due to colour, no need to bring that into the discussion. It would just be exciting, from a light-hearted, purely selfish fan's viewpoint, if Stevie had been/ was able to release say one very good/great new album. Because he has produced greatness in the past, maybe, just maybe he could again. That's why one might 'expect' more from him than from some other mediocre artist.

If that's not to be or ain't his scene, then peace ... He sure done plenty already cool

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Reply #70 posted 05/14/20 3:51pm

namepeace

slyjackson said:

RJOrion said:

slyjackson said: for years i thought the name of the song was always

It is from this day on.


I don't know y'all -- the original title works.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #71 posted 05/14/20 5:02pm

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Ribbon In The Sky

You and I

Happier Than the Morning Sun

Living for The City

My Cherie Amour

As

Summer Soft

Another Star

Visions

That Girl

10 is a ridiculous number lol

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Reply #72 posted 05/14/20 5:07pm

slyjackson

namepeace said:

slyjackson said:

It is from this day on.


I don't know y'all -- the original title works.

It doesn't

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Reply #73 posted 05/14/20 6:38pm

slyjackson

Stevie 70's output was remarkable but Al Green's output at that same period it as as great if not better, but he doesn't get as celebrated as Stevie

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Reply #74 posted 05/14/20 6:39pm

slyjackson

MarshallStacks said:

All great choices from an all-time great artist!! It always gets me thinking, like what happened, Stevie?? Why so good in the 70s, then a definite creative decline post Hotter Than July and here are, 15 years since his last album!! 😮 Like, what happened, Stevie?? eek neutral

I think his last album from his classic era or golden era is Hotter Than July.

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Reply #75 posted 05/14/20 7:05pm

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power flower

outside my window

black orchid

come back as a flower

same old story

kesse ye lolo de ye

all day sucker

someday at christmas

isnt she lovely

my cherie amour

flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup
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Reply #76 posted 05/14/20 7:28pm

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slyjackson said:

Stevie 70's output was remarkable but Al Green's output at that same period it as as great if not better, but he doesn't get as celebrated as Stevie

A person that sells more is always going to get talked about more in the media. Stevie got radio airplay on R&B and pop stations long before and after Al. Stevie's first record came out in 1962 and it was a hit. Al didn't really get popular until his 3rd album in 1971. Al was on Hi Records and Hi was kinda like 1960s Motown. A lot of Hi songs had a similar sound because Willie Mitchell produced most of the records and the same house band & background singers were used. Just had different singers on the records like Ann Peebles or O.V. Wright. Stevie's 1970s music did not really sound like the other artists on Motown. Stevie & Marvin Gaye fought the Motown assembly line system.

Al left secular music at the height of his popularity in the mid-1970s to become a preacher and then started exclusively releasing gospel records. Which is the same thing Little Richard did in the 1950s. Gospel doesn't get mainstream attention and religious songs have rarely become radio hit singles. So Al did not get the mainstream attention like Stevie continued to do. Al didn't really start making secular songs again until around the 1990s, and by then his radio play days were mostly over. He did get a few radio hits with duets with Annie Lennox & Ann Nesby and the song Al B Sure! produced. He did start singing some of his old secular hits in concert during the 1980s. Stevie did not have any scandal either. It was said that the story behind the Mary Woodson "grits" incident hurt Al's radio airplay on R&B stations and his popularity with many of his female fans at the time.

[Edited 5/14/20 19:33pm]

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #77 posted 05/14/20 7:32pm

slyjackson

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

power flower

outside my window

black orchid

come back as a flower

same old story

kesse ye lolo de ye

all day sucker

someday at christmas

isnt she lovely

my cherie amour

You do love Secret Life, don't you?

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Reply #78 posted 05/14/20 7:40pm

slyjackson

MickyDolenz said:

slyjackson said:

Stevie 70's output was remarkable but Al Green's output at that same period it as as great if not better, but he doesn't get as celebrated as Stevie

A person that sells more is always going to get talked about more in the media. Stevie got radio airplay on R&B and pop stations long before and after Al. Stevie's first record came out in 1962 and it was a hit. Al didn't really get popular until his 3rd album in 1971. Al was on Hi Records and Hi was kinda like 1960s Motown. A lot of Hi songs had a similar sound because Willie Mitchell produced most of the records and the same house band & background singers were used. Just had different singers on the records like Ann Peebles or O.V. Wright. Stevie's 1970s music did not really sound like the other artists on Motown. Stevie & Marvin Gaye fought the Motown assembly line system.

Al left secular music at the height of his popularity in the mid-1970s to become a preacher and then started exclusively releasing gospel records. Which is the same thing Little Richard did in the 1950s. Gospel doesn't get mainstream attention and religious songs have rarely become radio hit singles. So Al did not get the mainstream attention like Stevie continued to do. Al didn't really start making secular songs again until around the 1990s, and by then his radio play days were mostly over. He did get a few radio hits with duets with Annie Lennox & Ann Nesby and the song Al B Sure! produced. He did start singing some of his old secular hits in concert during the 1980s. Stevie did not have any scandal either. It was said that the story behind the Mary Woodson "grits" incident hurt Al's radio airplay on R&B stations and his popularity with many of his female fans at the time.

[Edited 5/14/20 19:33pm]

It was late 70's to be precise.

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Reply #79 posted 05/14/20 8:11pm

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slyjackson said:

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

power flower

outside my window

black orchid

come back as a flower

same old story

kesse ye lolo de ye

all day sucker

someday at christmas

isnt she lovely

my cherie amour

You do love Secret Life, don't you?

lol yes nod learned about it from prince, a turning point in my life

flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup
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Reply #80 posted 05/15/20 1:13am

SoulAlive

slyjackson said:

Stevie 70's output was remarkable but Al Green's output at that same period it as as great if not better, but he doesn't get as celebrated as Stevie

Al Green is great.....a soul music icon.....but Stevie was on another whole level.Al has some good albums,but he doesn't have something like Innervisions or Songs In The Key Of Life in his catalog.

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Reply #81 posted 05/15/20 8:54am

namepeace

slyjackson said:

namepeace said:


I don't know y'all -- the original title works.

It doesn't


Agree to disagree.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #82 posted 05/16/20 4:02pm

S2DG

The Wonderlove set list...

That's it...didn't think I could do it but that's my top ten. lol

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Reply #83 posted 05/16/20 6:54pm

datdude

wow. so hard. love Stevie. i scanned the lists pretty well and surprised to not see a few that make my list.

1) Superwoman/Where Were You When I Needed You

2) Rocket Love

3) Jesus Children of America

4) Heaven is 10 Zillion Light Years Away

5) Send One Your Love

6) As

7) I Am Singing

8) Lately

9) Overjoyed

10) Dark 'N Lovely

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Reply #84 posted 05/18/20 1:26pm

SoulAlive

music worship love this one!

datdude said:

1) Superwoman/Where Were You When I Needed You

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Reply #85 posted 05/22/20 3:59pm

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Golden Lady

Tuesday Heartbreak

Knocks Me Off My Feet

Higher Ground

Feeding Off The Love of the Land

Heaven Is 10 Zillion Light Years Away

Superwoman/Where Were You

Looking for Another Pure Love

Sir Duke

Power Flower

...

" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #86 posted 05/22/20 4:19pm

slyjackson

paligap said:

...

Golden Lady

Tuesday Heartbreak

Knocks Me Off My Feet

Higher Ground

Feeding Off The Love of the Land

Heaven Is 10 Zillion Light Years Away

Superwoman/Where Were You

Looking for Another Pure Love

Sir Duke

Power Flower

...

Great picks.

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Reply #87 posted 05/29/20 5:22am

Romeoblu

Creepin'
Superstition
Maybe Your Baby
All I Do
Jesus Children of America
Ordinary Pain
Rocket Love
Golden Lady
I Love You Too Much
Looking For Another Pure Love.
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Reply #88 posted 05/29/20 2:13pm

SoulAlive

Romeoblu said:

Creepin'

music this one is on my list,too.I love the haunting melody of this song.Luther did a great remake in the 80s.

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Reply #89 posted 05/29/20 4:20pm

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  1. You Haven't Donin Nothin'
  2. Don't Worry About a Thing
  3. My Cherie Amour
  4. Knocks Me On My Feet
  5. Living for The City
  6. PastTime Paradise
  7. Visions
  8. All in Love is Fair
  9. Send One Your Love
  10. HIgher Ground
  11. I Wish
  12. AS
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