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Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul

New Song https://youtu.be/3NbQkyvbw18

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Reply #1 posted 03/27/20 3:27pm

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17 minutes.

Isn't the US suffering enough already?

don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."

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Reply #2 posted 03/27/20 7:46pm

slyjackson	I love Dylan, but really 17 minutes long? that's just a little too much.
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Reply #3 posted 03/28/20 11:47am

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Yeah, it's long and it's something you have to sit down for, take your time, let it sink in. I've listened to it twice by now and it's really growing on me. It's more a poem set to music than a song and it's got some great lines.
"I hate to tell you Mister, but only dead men are free" reminds me of: "some people want to die, so they can be free".

If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.

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Reply #4 posted 04/02/20 2:23pm

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Murder Most Foul is a freaking goddamned masterpiece.

Really and truly. It's that good. There is SO MUCH going on in this piece. And it's beautifully recorded.

An absolutely fantastic new track.

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Reply #5 posted 04/10/20 8:06am

domainator2010	TrivialPursuit said: 17 minutes. Isn't the US suffering enough already? LOL! I left it running because of "Duquesne Whistle" which I used to absolutely LOVE! It feels good to keep it on, no doubt about it. I lasted till 10:32, no more, I think that's enough....
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Reply #6 posted 04/10/20 9:31am

Empress	Many people don't get Bob. A phenomenal writer/artist with profound and topical lyrics.
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Reply #7 posted 04/10/20 12:17pm

slyjackson	Empress said: Many people don't get Bob. A phenomenal writer/artist with profound and topical lyrics. His lyrics are everything, my third favorite artist of all time, To Ramona might be my favorite of his, to me his most heartbreakin lyrics.
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Reply #8 posted 04/10/20 1:00pm

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slyjackson said:

Empress said:

Many people don't get Bob. A phenomenal writer/artist with profound and topical lyrics.

His lyrics are everything, my third favorite artist of all time, To Ramona might be my favorite of his, to me his most heartbreakin lyrics.

Yes, that's a beautiful song. He has so many that are heaetbreaking. The entire Blood on the Tracks is my fav album, and fortunately, we have so much beautiful music from Bob.

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Reply #9 posted 04/10/20 1:35pm

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domainator2010 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

17 minutes.

Isn't the US suffering enough already?

LOL! smile I left it running because of "Duquesne Whistle" which I used to absolutely LOVE! It feels good to keep it on, no doubt about it. I lasted till 10:32, no more, I think that's enough.... smile

Give it another chance. Dylan has lots of songs that you need to hear a few times before they start to work. When I listen to it, it's over before I realize it's been 17 minutes!

If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.

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Reply #10 posted 04/10/20 1:43pm

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SantanaMaitreya said:
domainator2010 said:

LOL! I left it running because of "Duquesne Whistle" which I used to absolutely LOVE! It feels good to keep it on, no doubt about it. I lasted till 10:32, no more, I think that's enough....

Give it another chance. Dylan has lots of songs that you need to hear a few times before they start to work. When I listen to it, it's over before I realize it's been 17 minutes!

You're right.

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Reply #11 posted 04/10/20 1:53pm

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Empress said:
slyjackson said:

His lyrics are everything, my third favorite artist of all time, To Ramona might be my favorite of his, to me his most heartbreakin lyrics.

Yes, that's a beautiful song. He has so many that are heaetbreaking. The entire Blood on the Tracks is my fav album, and fortunately, we have so much beautiful music from Bob.

Yes, he's full of them. Not Dark Yet, You're A Big Girl Now, The River Shore and I Dreamed of St Agustin are some of my favorites.

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Reply #12 posted 04/10/20 1:53pm

slyjackson	Oh, This Dream Of You and Life Is Hard are up there as well.
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Reply #13 posted 04/10/20 1:59pm

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i love it smile if anything, it could have gone on for another minute or two, for me personally,
i'd have loved to just ride that long poem out on the instrumental tapestry slowly unraveling nod

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Reply #14 posted 04/10/20 5:59pm

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Bob Dylan Scores First-Ever No. 1 Song on a Billboard Chart With 'Murder Most Foul'

4/8/2020 by Kevin Rutherford

Christopher Polk/Getty Images for VH1

Bob Dylan onstage during the 17th Annual Critics' Choice Movie Awards held at The Hollywood Palladium on Jan. 12, 2012 in Los Angeles.

The 17-minute track about the assassination of JFK debuts atop Rock Digital Song Sales.

For the first time in his storied career, Bob Dylan has a No. 1 song on a Billboard chart under his name.

"Murder Most Foul," the iconic singer-songwriter's nearly 17-minute chronicle of the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy, debuts at No. 1 on the Rock Digital Song Sales survey dated April 11.

Released March 27, the song sold 10,000 downloads in its first tracking week, ending April 2, according to Nielsen Music/MRC Data.

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #15 posted 04/11/20 5:03am

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purplethunder3121 said:

Bob Dylan Scores First-Ever No. 1 Song on a Billboard Chart With 'Murder Most Foul'

4/8/2020 by Kevin Rutherford

Christopher Polk/Getty Images for VH1

Bob Dylan onstage during the 17th Annual Critics' Choice Movie Awards held at The Hollywood Palladium on Jan. 12, 2012 in Los Angeles.

The 17-minute track about the assassination of JFK debuts atop Rock Digital Song Sales.

For the first time in his storied career, Bob Dylan has a No. 1 song on a Billboard chart under his name.

Released March 27, the song sold 10,000 downloads in its first tracking week, ending April 2, according to Nielsen Music/MRC Data.

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See, some people DO get Dylan

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Reply #16 posted 04/11/20 8:59am

looby	Don't think I've ever heard of a track being that long, or I've never listened to one as long as that....anyone else know of a track longer than that made by anyone, that folks actually have listened to?
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Reply #17 posted 04/11/20 9:07am

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looby said:

Don't think I've ever heard of a track being that long, or I've never listened to one as long as that....anyone else know of a track longer than that made by anyone, that folks actually have listened to?

RUSH - 2112 is 20 minutes (full side of an album)

This song is an musical story set in the future and I can't hear it enough, it's a beautiful piece of art.

With that said, this Dylan tune is the opposite of that experience.

I like Mr Zimmerman for the most part and respect his place in music history but this sounds/feels like the ramblings of an old man set to piano and strings.

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Reply #18 posted 04/11/20 9:30am

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looby said:

Don't think I've ever heard of a track being that long, or I've never listened to one as long as that....anyone else know of a track longer than that made by anyone, that folks actually have listened to?

Genesis ~ Supper's Ready
Sugarhill Gang ~ Rapper's Delight
Love De-Luxe ~ Here Comes That Sound Again
Iron Butterfly ~ In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
Donna Summer ~ Love To Love You Baby
Emerson, Lake, & Palmer ~ Tarkus

Miles Davis ~ Pharaoh's Dance

Jimmy Spicer ~ The Adventures Of Super Rhymes
Meco ~ Star Wars
Poco ~ Nobody's Fool
The Beatles ~ Helter Skelter (slow bluesy version is 27 minutes)

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton

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Reply #19 posted 04/11/20 10:00am

looby	^^Wow, thanks @MickyDolenz
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Reply #20 posted 04/11/20 10:37am

SantanaMaitrey a	looby said: Don't think I've ever heard of a track being that long, or I've never listened to one as long as that....anyone else know of a track longer than that made by anyone, that folks actually have listened to? You're on a Prince site and you've never heard the extended version of America? If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.
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Reply #21 posted 04/11/20 12:34pm

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SantanaMaitreya said:
looby said:

Don't think I've ever heard of a track being that long, or I've never listened to one as long as that....anyone else know of a track longer than that made by anyone, that folks actually have listened to?

You're on a Prince site and you've never heard the extended version of America?

Nope, can't lie, I haven't lol .....I never liked extended versions where music is concerned, not even Prince's, it get on my nerves when a song just goes on and on, and seems like it will never end...but that's just me.

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Reply #22 posted 04/11/20 2:57pm

SantanaMaitrey a	Okay, I admit that a 21 minute version of a song that lasts 4 minutes on the album might be a little too much. If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.
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Reply #23 posted 04/12/20 2:50pm

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looby said:

Don't think I've ever heard of a track being that long, or I've never listened to one as long as that....anyone else know of a track longer than that made by anyone, that folks actually have listened to?

Er, 17 minutes is pretty short, really. Not for a pop song, maybe... but there are literally THOUSANDS of songs and pieces of music that are longer than Murder Most Foul that people actually listen to.

Even ruling out the classical world, in which pieces often run over 20 minutes, the jazz world and rock/prog world have plenty of music that runs longer than this.... Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Cecil Taylor, Albert Ayler, Archie Shepp, Genesis, King Crimson (check out the amazing 22 -minute song 'Lizard'!), the list goes on and on and on....

There's also Neil Young's 'Driftin' Back', the opening track from his 2012 album Psychedelic Pill, which runs for 27 minutes.

Many many tracks in the prog world.... and then there's Prince's The War.... there's so many!

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Reply #24 posted 04/12/20 4:53pm

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This song is amazing, musically and lyrically. Poetry of 17 minutes.

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Reply #25 posted 04/12/20 5:00pm

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Kobe said:

This song is amazing, musically and lyrically. Poetry of 17 minutes.

it's so good nod

it made me dig out some of ginsberg's poetry readings smile but i like this jazzy laid back musical
atmosphere dylan spins around this poem/song. it's such a great piece of work. i love it cool

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Reply #26 posted 04/12/20 7:45pm

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Oh Mercy is his best.

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Reply #27 posted 04/12/20 7:50pm

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looby said:

SantanaMaitreya said:
looby said: You're on a Prince site and you've never heard the extended version of America?

Nope, can't lie, I haven't .....I never liked extended versions where music is concerned, not even Prince's, it get on my nerves when a song just goes on and on, and seems like it will never end...but that's just me.

Yeah, I like it in classical or like avante garde, some metal and types of jazz..... something a little more pretentious where there's less/more spaced out overall repetition. In "pop" music it always felt counterintuitive to me, because I begin to feel that same sentiment you experience after a certain duration.

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