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Reply #60 posted 02/16/20 9:26am

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You seem really mad about Stevie Nicks getting in TWICE, but I'm happy she did. First woman ever. Rock on Gold Dust Woman!

Anyway, every artist out there has had good work and some work not as good, especially Pat Benatar. I won't be too hard on you becuase I remember you like Duran Duran and it's a crime they are not in yet. I believe you were also the A-Ha fan, right? I don't post on here as much as I used to but I remember your username.

I wouldnt care if Pat was already in, seems a little foolish that someone who opened the ROCK female door, and when I say ROCK female I dont mean Joni or the singer songwriters, I mean the female version of the males that they let in no question. Stevie's solo output did not get her in, Fleetwood Mac got her in the second time that is for sure. Her solo work is very spotty and if I would vote for her, it would be years from now not first ballot, that is insanity. Pat overlooked is criminal plain and simple, to finally have her on the ballot and then have her second in fan popularity just to have others pass her is crazy. As for Duran to me like I said if not for them MTV or just video as an art form does not happen the way it did, so DURAN is the reason for Madonna and a whole slew of others who had giant careers on videos and to some bands and older artists they had new careers because of video. But to have Depeche and the Cure in before them again, clueless.

I agree that Pat Benatar and Duran Duran should be in there by now. I also believe that Stevie Nicks deserved to be the first female inducted twice. Her influence and presence speaks for itself. Her first 2 solo albums were her most successful, but she is the main reason that Fleetwood Mac can still tour. Mick Fleetwood can tell you that!

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Reply #61 posted 02/17/20 2:52pm

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Rufus and Chaka's first couple of albums were Rock influenced.

Most of the R&B/soul related acts inducted had big crossover success. Such as The Tempatations, The Supremes, Sam Cooke, Aretha Franklin, James Brown, etc. Rufus didn't and neither did Chaka as a solo act. Rufus is more like Joe Tex or Tyrone Davis, who had 2 or 3 songs become mainstream pop hits, but they didn't really crossover themselves as an act like a Lionel Richie. They were mainly popular to the R&B audience.

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Reply #62 posted 02/24/20 8:12am

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no Pat Benatar?! Smh



thats insane that she's not in the Hall Of Fame...
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Reply #63 posted 02/24/20 8:13am

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FUCK WHITNEY FUCKING HOUSTON, FUCK NOTORIOUS BIFUCKINGG!! How can the HOF ignore a band that was virtually on top of the leaderboard for most of the voting time and had the most votes(1 million +) in favour of these 2 non-talents I have no idea!!! I am talking about The Dave Matthews Band!! Its the last time I vote relentlessly for anyone!! The HOF is fucked up big time now!!!!

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Reply #64 posted 02/25/20 12:46pm

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kitbradley said:

Rufus and Chaka's first couple of albums were Rock influenced.

Most of the R&B/soul related acts inducted had big crossover success. Such as The Tempatations, The Supremes, Sam Cooke, Aretha Franklin, James Brown, etc. Rufus didn't and neither did Chaka as a solo act. Rufus is more like Joe Tex or Tyrone Davis, who had 2 or 3 songs become mainstream pop hits, but they didn't really crossover themselves as an act like a Lionel Richie. They were mainly popular to the R&B audience.

N.W.A. wasn't a huge crossover act,were they? hmmm How many mainstream pop hits did they have? And yet they were inducted.

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Reply #65 posted 02/25/20 1:09pm

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I think it's safe to say that Judas Priest will eventually be chosen,so there's no need to argue for their induction.

Rufus and Chaka actually have rock roots.Listen to their early albums.I'd argue that Chaka has more to do with rock and roll than Whitney Houston does.

There is no arguement, you are 100% correct. Rufus and Chaka's first couple of albums were Rock influenced. Chaka, as a solo artist, took it even further and more consistantly. This is one of the reasons why I'd rather see her inducted as a solo artist than with Rufus. Her solo discography is far more eclectic than her Rufus discography. Nippy had a Pop/Pop-Soul niche that she rarely ventured outside of.

Exactly.Chaka also appeared on a huge pop hit in the mid-80s (Steve Winwood's "Higher Love") and it's worth noting that Robert Palmer wanted her to sing on his massive hit "Addicted To Love".Rock audiences definitely knew who she was.The band Chicago even featured her on their 1977 song "Take Me Back To Chicago".

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Reply #66 posted 02/25/20 6:01pm

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N.W.A. wasn't a huge crossover act,were they? hmmm How many mainstream pop hits did they have? And yet they were inducted.

Before the Queen movie, NWA had the highest grossing music biopic. Ice Cube is a movie star & owns a basketball league. Dr. Dre almost came close to being a billionaire selling headphones. There's your answer. razz Dre also discovered Snoop Dogg & Eminem. NWA was one of the groups who popularized gangsta rap to the mainstream in the late 1980s & early 1990s. Which was an influence on 1990s movies such as New Jack City & Boyz In The Hood. NWA were also behind acts like JJ Fad & Michel'le who had pop hits. NWA probably benefited from MTV creating Yo MTV Raps. MTV is pretty mainstream. They also had national controversy about the F The Police song. NWA was more an album selling group than a radio singles group anyway. Pink Floyd had few radio hits, but they sold lots of albums. Hip hop in general has more influence on modern music than Rufus or Chaka. Will Smith & Queen Latifah became movie stars in a way that pop & rock stars like Mick Jagger & Madonna failed at. Even Elvis wasn't really taken seriously as an actor although his movies were popular at the time.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #67 posted 02/26/20 6:20am

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SoulAlive said:

kitbradley said:

There is no arguement, you are 100% correct. Rufus and Chaka's first couple of albums were Rock influenced. Chaka, as a solo artist, took it even further and more consistantly. This is one of the reasons why I'd rather see her inducted as a solo artist than with Rufus. Her solo discography is far more eclectic than her Rufus discography. Nippy had a Pop/Pop-Soul niche that she rarely ventured outside of.

Exactly.Chaka also appeared on a huge pop hit in the mid-80s (Steve Winwood's "Higher Love") and it's worth noting that Robert Palmer wanted her to sing on his massive hit "Addicted To Love".Rock audiences definitely knew who she was.The band Chicago even featured her on their 1977 song "Take Me Back To Chicago".

And that's a very small sampling of it. Chaka's discography as a guest performer is massive across all genres. Non-Chakaholics have absolutely no idea. Yet another reason why I would rather see her inducted as a solo artist than with Rufus. By the way, "Addicted To Love" indeed was recorded as a duet with Chaka and Robert but Warner and Burt Zell, Chaka's manager at the time, blocked it because they felt it would interfere with the "Destiny" release, an album they didn't even bother to promote. lol

A lot of Chaka's fans are still bitter that Robert Palmer duet wasn't released becasue they feel it would have advanced her career even further than IFFY. What they fail to realize, especially with black artists, crossover success came with a very high price in the 80s. Chaka said 1984 and 1985, despite being the most successful years of her career, were also the two worst years of her life. Everyone wanted a piece of her. She was being asked to do things that weren't expected of her in the past, appear in places she had never been before and talk to people who weren't calling before. There are many black performers who were way more successful than Chaka with the masses. Many of those artist are also no longer with us because the things that came along with that success destroyed them. Thank God Chaka is still here, touring, recording and looking better than ever. biggrin

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Reply #68 posted 02/26/20 7:25am

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I am bummed about Chaka sad but happy about Depeche Mode, NIN and T-Rex woot!

I think Whitney deserves to be inducted - but it feels weird because Chaka was likely one of her influences and should have already been in the RRHOF. neutral

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Reply #69 posted 02/26/20 10:17am

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I am bummed about Chaka sad but happy about Depeche Mode, NIN and T-Rex woot!

I think Whitney deserves to be inducted - but it feels weird because Chaka was likely one of her influences and should have already been in the RRHOF. neutral

IMHO boxed

Chaka was her influence. Clive liked to put out there that Aretha was the main influence. Cissy said while Aretha was definately one of Nippy's influences, Chaka was the one Nippy stood in the mirror always emulating.

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Reply #70 posted 03/04/20 4:53pm

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Rock Hall 2020 induction ceremony: Tickets sell out in 1 hour
February 27, 2020 WKYC

CLEVELAND — Rock ‘n’ roll royalty will descend upon Cleveland this coming May -- and music fans are clearly very excited.

Tickets for the 2020 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony went on sale to the general public through TicketMaster at 10 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 27.

Rock Hall officials tell 3News the tickets were all sold within an hour.

If you missed out, don't worry. We've found tickets up for grabs on secondary sites -- including StubHub -- with the cheapest prices listed at $570 as of 11:35 a.m. Thursday.

This year’s event will be hosted in Cleveland at Public Hall on Saturday, May 2.

The Rock Hall itself is also offering an induction screening party (tickets HERE), while the entire ceremony will be broadcast live for the first time ever on HBO.

The 2020 class of inductees includes Depeche Mode, The Doobie Brothers, Whitney Houston, Nine Inch Nails, The Notorious B.I.G., T. Rex, Irving Azoff and Jon Landau.

Performances and special guests will be revealed at a later date.

Each inductee was chosen by a committee of more than 1,000 people, including former inductees, historians and members of the music industry. The fan ballot is also a factor that's tallied when determining the final class.

To be eligible for induction, an individual artist or band must have released their first commercial recording at least 25 years prior to the year of nomination. Factors in determining the inductees are:

- The artist's musical influence on other artists.
- Length / depth of career and body of work.
- Innovation and superiority in style / technique.

Cleveland most recently hosted the Rock Hall inductions in 2018. That class included The Moody Blues, Nina Simone, The Cars, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Dire Straits and Bon Jovi.

2020 marks the 35th annual Rock Hall induction.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #71 posted 03/05/20 10:46am

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So tickets sold out in 1 hour. If anybody is still wondering why certain artists get inducted....they wouldn't be selling out tickets in an hour if the inductees were Kraftwerk and King Crimson. lol

I just hope if they do a musical tribute for Whitney it includes a gospel song, like something from The Preacher's Wife. We don't need another wannabe belting out I Have Nothing or IWALY. And please no Xtina. The Bodyguard tribute she did at the AMAs a few years ago was awful. Pitchy as hell.

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Reply #72 posted 03/05/20 4:46pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Rock Hall 2020 induction ceremony: Tickets sell out in 1 hour
February 27, 2020 WKYC

CLEVELAND — Rock ‘n’ roll royalty will descend upon Cleveland this coming May -- and music fans are clearly very excited.

Tickets for the 2020 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony went on sale to the general public through TicketMaster at 10 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 27.

Rock Hall officials tell 3News the tickets were all sold within an hour.

If you missed out, don't worry. We've found tickets up for grabs on secondary sites -- including StubHub -- with the cheapest prices listed at $570 as of 11:35 a.m. Thursday.

This year’s event will be hosted in Cleveland at Public Hall on Saturday, May 2.

The Rock Hall itself is also offering an induction screening party (tickets HERE), while the entire ceremony will be broadcast live for the first time ever on HBO.

The 2020 class of inductees includes Depeche Mode, The Doobie Brothers, Whitney Houston, Nine Inch Nails, The Notorious B.I.G., T. Rex, Irving Azoff and Jon Landau.

Performances and special guests will be revealed at a later date.

Each inductee was chosen by a committee of more than 1,000 people, including former inductees, historians and members of the music industry. The fan ballot is also a factor that's tallied when determining the final class.

To be eligible for induction, an individual artist or band must have released their first commercial recording at least 25 years prior to the year of nomination. Factors in determining the inductees are:

- The artist's musical influence on other artists.
- Length / depth of career and body of work.
- Innovation and superiority in style / technique.

Cleveland most recently hosted the Rock Hall inductions in 2018. That class included The Moody Blues, Nina Simone, The Cars, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Dire Straits and Bon Jovi.

2020 marks the 35th annual Rock Hall induction.


Who do we think Bon Jovi influenced? lol

I do heart Jon, though

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Reply #73 posted 03/05/20 6:49pm

rogifan

DiminutiveRocker said:

MickyDolenz said:

Rock Hall 2020 induction ceremony: Tickets sell out in 1 hour
February 27, 2020 WKYC

CLEVELAND — Rock ‘n’ roll royalty will descend upon Cleveland this coming May -- and music fans are clearly very excited.

Tickets for the 2020 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony went on sale to the general public through TicketMaster at 10 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 27.

Rock Hall officials tell 3News the tickets were all sold within an hour.

If you missed out, don't worry. We've found tickets up for grabs on secondary sites -- including StubHub -- with the cheapest prices listed at $570 as of 11:35 a.m. Thursday.

This year’s event will be hosted in Cleveland at Public Hall on Saturday, May 2.

The Rock Hall itself is also offering an induction screening party (tickets HERE), while the entire ceremony will be broadcast live for the first time ever on HBO.

The 2020 class of inductees includes Depeche Mode, The Doobie Brothers, Whitney Houston, Nine Inch Nails, The Notorious B.I.G., T. Rex, Irving Azoff and Jon Landau.

Performances and special guests will be revealed at a later date.

Each inductee was chosen by a committee of more than 1,000 people, including former inductees, historians and members of the music industry. The fan ballot is also a factor that's tallied when determining the final class.

To be eligible for induction, an individual artist or band must have released their first commercial recording at least 25 years prior to the year of nomination. Factors in determining the inductees are:

- The artist's musical influence on other artists.
- Length / depth of career and body of work.
- Innovation and superiority in style / technique.

Cleveland most recently hosted the Rock Hall inductions in 2018. That class included The Moody Blues, Nina Simone, The Cars, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Dire Straits and Bon Jovi.

2020 marks the 35th annual Rock Hall induction.


Who do we think Bon Jovi influenced? lol

I do heart Jon, though

Or Def Leppard for that matter.

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Reply #74 posted 03/06/20 2:05pm

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I just remembered Eazy-E discovered Bone Thugs-N-Harmony & Black Eyed Peas. A couple of BEP (will.i.am, apl.de.ap) were in a group called A.T.B.A.N.N. Klan. Eazy gave them a record deal and they were first on his Christmas song. Bone Thugs had mainstream success in the 1990s and were one of the first to use a sing-song rap cadence, which others like Nelly later became known for.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #75 posted 03/06/20 2:20pm

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MickyDolenz said:

I just remembered Eazy-E discovered Bone Thugs-N-Harmony & Black Eyed Peas. A couple of BEP (will.i.am, apl.de.ap) were in a group called A.T.B.A.N.N. Klan. Eazy gave them a record deal and they were first on his Christmas song. Bone Thugs had mainstream success in the 1990s and were one of the first to use a sing-song rap cadence, which others like Nelly later became known for.

smile this is interesting stuff thanks, MickyDolenz.

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Reply #76 posted 03/06/20 2:46pm

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smile this is interesting stuff thanks, MickyDolenz.

You're welcome. Here's a 1994 music video by A.T.B.A.N. Klann: Puddles Of H2O.

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Reply #77 posted 03/13/20 2:57pm

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No surprise neutral

The health and safety of our fans and visitors is our highest priority. Given recent news regarding coronavirus and the urging by Ohio Governor Mike DeWine regarding large public gatherings, we have made the decision to postpone the 2020 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony and Induction Week festivities until later this year. Additional details, including new dates and ticket information, will be announced shortly and shared directly with ticket holders and supporters. Details of the rescheduled HBO live broadcast of the event will be announced at a later date as well.

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