BlaqueKnight said:

a sporting event with children present

Oh boo hoo "WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN! "

TheSkinMechanic said:

DaveT said:

But why would you choose to live a lifestyle that would actively increase your chances of needing increased support from the NHS tenfold, thus leaving less resource to treat the unfortunate individuals who need support through no fault of their own? Surely, that's selfish behaviour? ...

There are many reasons why someone could be overweight/underweight - it may not be as simple as someone 'choosing' to have weight issues.

The vast majority of people in the UK will need support from the NHS at some point whatever size they are. If you want to start witholding NHS care to certain individuals because of their lifestyle no-one would ever get treatment.

A woman who chooses to get pregnant will inevitably need support from the NHS. Are you saying they should they be denied access to maternity care?

Are you saying some black mothers should not be offered maternal care due to her offspring having a higher than average chance of bothering the NHS at some point in the future with Sickle cell disease?

Or how about smokers/drinkers/meat eaters?

Or someone choosing to live next to a busy road?

Or someone who likes salty snacks?

Or someone who chooses to drive/cycle/walk/run/play/excercise/not exercise (all these activities - and pretty much every other activity you can think of - can result in short term and long term injuries that will require NHS support.

I prefer to let people live their own lives without judgement, and support them should they ever need me to offer it.

Its certainly not a case of denying care, but I think some people can up their levels of self-responsibility quite a bit, particularly, as you say, at a time when government is giving our NHS a sustained kicking ... we all need to do our bit if we can.

... and I think that should include a careful look at how we promote the idea of being heavily over weight as the new norm or something to be celebrated. I'm not saying the intentions aren't noble if we're talking about helping someone's self esteem or confidence, but I'd put a higher value on their physical well-being every time.

If shunning obesity was all it took for it to go away, then it would have disappeared already. Thank u, next!

Cinny said:

BlaqueKnight said:

She did some hoe shit and got called out on it.

Yep, pretty much

RJOrion said:

MickyDolenz said:

so sexy...all of them [Edited 1/14/20 9:51am]

Putting aside that sexiness is obviously in the eye of the beholder, this is like pointing out that Arnold Scharwzenegger and Chris Farley probably had upper arms that were about the same size.

It's just that one of those men got them by working out like a maniac, and the other had them by virtue of being a slovenly pig. Albeit, a hilarious slovenly pig, that's granted.

MickyDolenz said:

Eugny420 said:

her calf is as big as a Toyota

purplethunder3121 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

People need to stop deflecting from the stupidity of things people do these days. If Lizzo wasn't a known name and just some random civilian BBW, you'd call her traipsing about what it was: stupid. Her weight has nothing to do with the criticism she's rightfully received for her stupidity and you know it.

OH BS. If it was size 0 who twerked in the crowd, there would be no convo about it.

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

MotownSubdivision said:

People need to stop deflecting from the stupidity of things people do these days. If Lizzo wasn't a known name and just some random civilian BBW, you'd call her traipsing about what it was: stupid. Her weight has nothing to do with the criticism she's rightfully received for her stupidity and you know it.

I've never heard of this woman before reading this thread but it's clear to me that her weight is central to the criticism she has recieved.

I'm amazed you can't see it.

TheSkinMechanic said:

The "think of the children" "it's a family atmosphere" rallying cries, imo, are entirely dismissing that just about every nba halftime show is a scantily clad strip tease. Family friendly, tho, I guess. Yeah yeah yeah, they are athletic. No argument with that. But come on, cheerleaders during nba halftime shows are not what we would call properly clothed for any other "family friendly" event.

MotownSubdivision said:

PennyPurple said:

OH BS. If it was size 0 who twerked in the crowd, there would be no convo about it.

I rest my case.

It does remind of Chris Rock and his comments on Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl

"Janet lost her damn mind, whipping out her titty on a Sunday afternoon. On a Sunday afternoon! What the f*ck is wrong with this girl? This ain't deja vu, this ain't Magic City motherf*cker, its the Super Bowl. A titty on a Sunday afternoon. People coming home from church, turn on the TV, "Oh Lord!".

And a 40 year old titty at that. You can't just whip out a 40 year old titty, that's yo' man's titty. 40 year old titty, yo' man's titty ... 20 year old titty, community titty! The titty couldn't even believe it was outisde. It was like "Oh sh*t, what the f*cks going on? Close the door!""

DaveT said:

MotownSubdivision said:

PennyPurple said: I rest my case.

It does remind of Chris Rock and his comments on Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl

"Janet lost her damn mind, whipping out her titty on a Sunday afternoon. On a Sunday afternoon! What the f*ck is wrong with this girl? This ain't deja vu, this ain't Magic City motherf*cker, its the Super Bowl. A titty on a Sunday afternoon. People coming home from church, turn on the TV, "Oh Lord!".

And a 40 year old titty at that. You can't just whip out a 40 year old titty, that's yo' man's titty. 40 year old titty, yo' man's titty ... 20 year old titty, community titty! The titty couldn't even believe it was outisde. It was like "Oh sh*t, what the f*cks going on? Close the door!""

OMG this is hilarious! I remember when Chris said this and I remember thinking just how right he was and still is. So many people blame JT, but this would never have happened without Janet's approval. Chris is so damn funny!

PliablyPurple said:

The "think of the children" "it's a family atmosphere" rallying cries, imo, are entirely dismissing that just about every nba halftime show is a scantily clad strip tease. Family friendly, tho, I guess. Yeah yeah yeah, they are athletic. No argument with that. But come on, cheerleaders during nba halftime shows are not what we would call properly clothed for any other "family friendly" event.

Thank you. And in a normally hetero-sexist atmosphere, Lizzo would be welcomed if she fit their idea of a cheerleader body type.

^^ Love it!

What is Lizzo doing on Tik Tok?

https://wild949.iheart.com/featured/the-jv-show/content/2020-01-22-social-media-confused-by-lizzos-tiktok-video/

CynicKill said:

What is Lizzo doing on Tik Tok?

https://wild949.iheart.com/featured/the-jv-show/content/2020-01-22-social-media-confused-by-lizzos-tiktok-video/

She's nothing but an attention whore.......pathetic

Social media is a cancer.

PennyPurple said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Social media is a cancer.

Best and most true comment ever!!!!

Cinny said:

All I keep thinking is that Prince said before he died that he would produce her album, so we are essentially trashing an "associate act".

I didn't see anyone "trashing an associate act" just posting their comments. Why is it in today's world that whenever people voice or make a comment about anything that someone doesn't agree with, they are accused of one thing or another? Can't people just simply state an opinion these days, without being accused of hating, trashing, etc? And so what if Prince said before he died that he would produce her album, what does that have to do with people commenting on her behavior at a basketball game?

PliablyPurple said:

The "think of the children" "it's a family atmosphere" rallying cries, imo, are entirely dismissing that just about every nba halftime show is a scantily clad strip tease. Family friendly, tho, I guess. Yeah yeah yeah, they are athletic. No argument with that. But come on, cheerleaders during nba halftime shows are not what we would call properly clothed for any other "family friendly" event.

^^Point made, still doesn't make it right or appropriate.

Now post the cheerleaders with their naked asses exposed during a game.

What?

No footage of that?

Why?

Because its illegal and they would get ejected. There are indecent exposure laws and showing your naked ass at a game would get you ejected and BANNED from an arena.

No natter how big of a fan you are of Lizzo, she doesn't get a special pass just because you relate to her in some way.

Come to think of it, by not getting kicked out, she DID get a special pass.

If some random dude did this, the same people complaining about Lizzo getting shyt for it would be on here saying "lock him up". Lizzo doesn't get her own set of rules.

Save that act for the nightclubs where its cool.