FullLipsDotNose said:

https://www.huffpost.com/...mg00000051

Bullies are winning again

My whole thing is what did she expect? Considering she's a hefty woman who wears revealing clothes, she was bound to get some hate. And that's not taking into account the fact that she's a black woman. Nowadays motherf*ckers are cruel. Social media has no chill. My personal belief is that social media is one of the worst's things to happen to humanity. Sure it connects us all to one another but i think it's downsides outweigh the good that it can do.


As far as what do i personally think about Lizzo? Actually i don't think I've ever heard any of her music. I know who she is, but again, I've never listened to her music. Concerning the stripper dress? Meh, all that shit is old. It's time for a change of thinking. I'm not mad at her for making her money though...

[Edited 1/13/20 1:19am]

Good thing Twitter doesn't have a door, it would definitely hit her on the ass on the way out.

PennyPurple said:

Lizzo worked with Prince on the song BoyTrouble, from the Plectrumelectrum album.

She's beautiful.

That picture is more smoke and mirrors than an RJ Reynolds funhouse.

Besides, her calf is as big as a Toyota, and I've never had a fetish for cars.

Eugny420 said:

PennyPurple said:

Lizzo worked with Prince on the song BoyTrouble, from the Plectrumelectrum album.

She's beautiful.

That picture is more smoke and mirrors than an RJ Reynolds funhouse.

Besides, her calf is as big as a Toyota, and I've never had a fetish for cars.

Fat shaming. How thoughtful of you.

Empress said:

Eugny420 said:

That picture is more smoke and mirrors than an RJ Reynolds funhouse.

Besides, her calf is as big as a Toyota, and I've never had a fetish for cars.

Fat shaming. How thoughtful of you.

Or perhaps, just stating sarcastically, what he/she really think, in which of course in our pc world that we currently live in, that's no longer allowed.

looby said:

Empress said:

Fat shaming. How thoughtful of you.

Or perhaps, just stating sarcastically, what he/she really think, in which of course in our pc world that we currently live in, that's no longer allowed.

Nah. It just used to go unchallenged when OPPOSING views didn't have a platform.

Eugny420 said:

her calf is as big as a Toyota

probably too many fat comments...people r shit

I blame it on her juice.

MickyDolenz said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I blame it on her juice.

Interesting thread.

For those saying Prince was more appropriate, did it on stage...you are missing my original point.

When Prince did it, it was a publicity stunt. Whether during Dirty Mind, or at the American Music Awards or most famously the "Get Off" MTV award.

What Lizzo did is a publicity stunt...plain and simple..and a very effective one because it got people talking. That was done in October(I think) and we are still talking about it. By its very nature you have to push the envelope with publicity stunts. She cannot do what Prince did 20 to 30 years ago...she has to be more outrageous. Hence in the middle of a basketball game.

RJOrion said:

PennyPurple said:

And now we see why she's taking a break from Twitter, with comments like RJ's.

good...she needs to fall back and reflect on her life and her actions...and she needs to heed the advise of people who are telling her to clean up her act... she's perpetuating stereotypes that black female entertainers have to be sexualized to be prominent or successful...shes been performing in lingerie, and bra and panties and such, since she started becoming a thing...if she dressed like MC Lyte, or Queen Latifah did when they performed, she'd be anonymous ... but a black woman half naked, and twerking and shaking, and selling sex, is what the powerbrokers in entertainment continue to shove down our collective consciousness... its demeaning and disrespctful to black women and black culture in general...and the women who willingly participate in this, need to know that and react accordingly...

You know you're on a Prince website, right?

Good to know that fat shaming is still in vogue in 2020. Heavyset ppl etc are the one group that people are allowed to ridicule and shame etc. with no consequences. PPl are awful.

jfenster said:

probably too many fat comments...people r shit

Humans have been shit since biblical times....and when you put your business on social media, expect to get ridiculed. So you either grow a pair or stay off that shit.

kitbradley said:

Isn't she in her late 20s or early 30s? No one can tell them anything. They know it all. They are always right. Now, people are coming down on Jillian Micheals for asking why are we celebrating Lizzo's body? I wouldn't be surprised if Lizzo has told her physicians they don't have the right to tell her all of that extra weight is bad for her and puts her at higher risk (especially as a black woman) for a lot of diseases. As a person who has battled weight all of my life, it's easier to lie and claim you're happy with being obese than to put the work in to perhaps move yourself out of the way of certain risks that go along with obesity. And that's fine if she wants to stay obese. But, no one wants to hear her whinning about diagnosed obesity related diseases down the line.

[Edited 1/9/20 14:05pm]

Very sensible words.

I find this whole "normalising" of obesity very worrying. They try wrapping it up in fluffy names like "body positive" or "being who you are", or respond to criticism by calling it fat shaming, but the truth is its just as dangerous as promoting being seriously underweight as a normal way to live.

Here in the UK our health service is under tremendous pressure as it is; it can really do without the added stress of coping with the numerous health issues that obese people will inevitably have to deal with.

Anyone who promotes being obese or advocates it as a good thing really needs taking to task, and that includes Lizzo.

uPtoWnNY said:

jfenster said:

probably too many fat comments...people r shit

Humans have been shit since biblical times....and when you put your business on social media, expect to get ridiculed. So you either grow a pair or stay off that shit.

Not all humans believe that being shit to other humans is the default setting.

TheSkinMechanic said:

TheSkinMechanic said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Humans have been shit since biblical times....and when you put your business on social media, expect to get ridiculed. So you either grow a pair or stay off that shit.

Not all humans believe that being shit to other humans is the default setting.

thank you....

DaveT said:

kitbradley said:

Isn't she in her late 20s or early 30s? No one can tell them anything. They know it all. They are always right. Now, people are coming down on Jillian Micheals for asking why are we celebrating Lizzo's body? I wouldn't be surprised if Lizzo has told her physicians they don't have the right to tell her all of that extra weight is bad for her and puts her at higher risk (especially as a black woman) for a lot of diseases. As a person who has battled weight all of my life, it's easier to lie and claim you're happy with being obese than to put the work in to perhaps move yourself out of the way of certain risks that go along with obesity. And that's fine if she wants to stay obese. But, no one wants to hear her whinning about diagnosed obesity related diseases down the line.

[Edited 1/9/20 14:05pm]

Very sensible words.

I find this whole "normalising" of obesity very worrying. They try wrapping it up in fluffy names like "body positive" or "being who you are", or respond to criticism by calling it fat shaming, but the truth is its just as dangerous as promoting being seriously underweight as a normal way to live.

Here in the UK our health service is under tremendous pressure as it is; it can really do without the added stress of coping with the numerous health issues that obese people will inevitably have to deal with.

Anyone who promotes being obese or advocates it as a good thing really needs taking to task, and that includes Lizzo.

People come in all sizes, shapes, and colors. Stop hatin on Lizzo just because she is a full sized woman.

This probably wouldn't have been an issue, if she was a size zero.

PennyPurple said:

People come in all sizes, shapes, and colors. Stop hatin on Lizzo just because she is a full sized woman.

This probably wouldn't have been an issue, if she was a size zero.

It would have definitely been an issue if she were a size zero.

She showed her open ass at a sporting event with children present. It SHOULD be an issue.

Just because she "represents" a segment of the population, it doesn't give her free reign to do whatever and go unchecked. She did some hoe shit and got called out on it.

The fat shaming was extra and uncalled for to the extent that it was but if she had sat her ass in her seat, no one would have said anything other than "Is that Lizzo?" "Cool" and so on. Inste4ad, she decided to be a spectacle, operating under the "all exposure is good exposure" premise and got taught a lesson. Hope she learns from it.

Anyone else, male or female, would have been ejected from the arena. Her celebrity status was the only thing that saved her from the same fate.

PennyPurple said:

People come in all sizes, shapes, and colors. Stop hatin on Lizzo just because she is a full sized woman.

This probably wouldn't have been an issue, if she was a size zero.

This is exactly my point ... calling her or anyone a "full size woman" when what they actually are, under medical terminology, is obese is doing them no favours at all.

Its telling them that its ok to be like that, when for their own health and for the extra strain it puts on health services, it really isn't. Would you tell a woman who was 6 stone and significantly under weight "you're a minus size woman, you own it and go girl!" ...?

Eugny420 said:

Besides, her calf is as big as a Toyota, and I've never had a fetish for cars.

Sounds like something Prince would sing.

DaveT said:

PennyPurple said:

People come in all sizes, shapes, and colors. Stop hatin on Lizzo just because she is a full sized woman.

This probably wouldn't have been an issue, if she was a size zero.

This is exactly my point ... calling her or anyone a "full size woman" when what they actually are, under medical terminology, is obese is doing them no favours at all.

Its telling them that its ok to be like that, when for their own health and for the extra strain it puts on health services, it really isn't. Would you tell a woman who was 6 stone and significantly under weight "you're a minus size woman, you own it and go girl!" ...?

Again, people come in all shapes and sizes. We don't know if there is a underlying medical problem. She's a full sized woman and she's beautiful. Just because she's not a size 0 doesn't mean she isn't beautiful.


I think this problem is her size, not that anyone here is truely worried about her health........

PennyPurple said:

DaveT said:

This is exactly my point ... calling her or anyone a "full size woman" when what they actually are, under medical terminology, is obese is doing them no favours at all.

Its telling them that its ok to be like that, when for their own health and for the extra strain it puts on health services, it really isn't. Would you tell a woman who was 6 stone and significantly under weight "you're a minus size woman, you own it and go girl!" ...?

Again, people come in all shapes and sizes. We don't know if there is a underlying medical problem. She's a full sized woman and she's beautiful. Just because she's not a size 0 doesn't mean she isn't beautiful.


I think this problem is her size, not that anyone here is truely worried about her health........

I never said she wasn't beautiful. In fact my personal tastes are for more curvy women.

And whilst people do come in different (note different, not "all") shapes and sizes as nature dictates, they don't come in this size naturally ... they just don't. You only get to this size through high calorie intact and lack of calorie burning. A small number of people have some underlying health issues which compound matters, but most don't.

Am I worried about her health? Nope, no more than she's worried about mine. My worry is this normalising of unhealthy lifestyle choices, just because there's a fear of offending someone. If someone was smoking or drinking themselves in to an early grave, you wouldn't not step in because you might offend them ... but when someone is eating themselves to a shorter life span we legitimise that by saying "you go girl / guy, that's fine, you look great". Its totally missing the argument; its not about looks or the aesthetic, its about health, and those two things are entirely different.

DaveT said:

kitbradley said:

Isn't she in her late 20s or early 30s? No one can tell them anything. They know it all. They are always right. Now, people are coming down on Jillian Micheals for asking why are we celebrating Lizzo's body? I wouldn't be surprised if Lizzo has told her physicians they don't have the right to tell her all of that extra weight is bad for her and puts her at higher risk (especially as a black woman) for a lot of diseases. As a person who has battled weight all of my life, it's easier to lie and claim you're happy with being obese than to put the work in to perhaps move yourself out of the way of certain risks that go along with obesity. And that's fine if she wants to stay obese. But, no one wants to hear her whinning about diagnosed obesity related diseases down the line.

[Edited 1/9/20 14:05pm]

Very sensible words.

I find this whole "normalising" of obesity very worrying. They try wrapping it up in fluffy names like "body positive" or "being who you are", or respond to criticism by calling it fat shaming, but the truth is its just as dangerous as promoting being seriously underweight as a normal way to live.

Here in the UK our health service is under tremendous pressure as it is; it can really do without the added stress of coping with the numerous health issues that obese people will inevitably have to deal with.

Anyone who promotes being obese or advocates it as a good thing really needs taking to task, and that includes Lizzo.

The NHS is under tremendous pressure due to creeping privatisation and years of deliberate underfunding for ideological reasons. This is a matter of public record.

The NHS is there for anyone who needs it. It is irrelevant whether they are overweight, underweight, smokers, non-smokers, white, black, drivers, cyclists, horse-riders, surfers, alcoholics, mothers, fathers, old 'uns, young 'uns... in short, it is for anyone and everyone, irrespective of whether they are at a higher risk of specific issues or not.

It's the whole point of the NHS.

Singling out a single section of society and then blaming them for the underfunding of the NHS is straight out of the Tory/Daily Mail playbook.

[Edited 1/17/20 6:43am]

DaveT said:

PennyPurple said:

People come in all sizes, shapes, and colors. Stop hatin on Lizzo just because she is a full sized woman.

This probably wouldn't have been an issue, if she was a size zero.

This is exactly my point ... calling her or anyone a "full size woman" when what they actually are, under medical terminology, is obese is doing them no favours at all.

Its telling them that its ok to be like that, when for their own health and for the extra strain it puts on health services, it really isn't. Would you tell a woman who was 6 stone and significantly under weight "you're a minus size woman, you own it and go girl!" ...?

But you are not a doctor in a one-to-one consultation with this woman, so you therefore should not use medical terminolgy to decribe the physical appearence of someone when you already know that they would prefer to be called something else.

As for your second point, yes of fucking course I would encourage and attempt to boost the confidence of someone who may be having weight issues, whichever end of the scale they were at.

[Edited 1/17/20 6:46am]

TheSkinMechanic said:

DaveT said:

Very sensible words.

I find this whole "normalising" of obesity very worrying. They try wrapping it up in fluffy names like "body positive" or "being who you are", or respond to criticism by calling it fat shaming, but the truth is its just as dangerous as promoting being seriously underweight as a normal way to live.

Here in the UK our health service is under tremendous pressure as it is; it can really do without the added stress of coping with the numerous health issues that obese people will inevitably have to deal with.

Anyone who promotes being obese or advocates it as a good thing really needs taking to task, and that includes Lizzo.

The NHS is under tremendous pressure due to creeping privatisation and years of deliberate underfunding for ideological reasons. This is a matter of public record.

The NHS is there for anyone who needs it. It is irrelevant whether they are overweight, underweight, smokers, non-smokers, white, black, drivers, cyclists, horse-riders, surfers, alcoholics, mothers, fathers, old 'uns, young 'uns... in short, it is for anyone and everyone, irrespective of whether they are at a higher risk of specific issues or not.

It's the whole point of the NHS.

Singling out a single section of society and then blaming them for the underfunding of the NHS is straight out of the Tory/Daily Mail playbook.

[Edited 1/17/20 6:43am]

But why would you choose to live a lifestyle that would actively increase your chances of needing increased support from the NHS tenfold, thus leaving less resource to treat the unfortunate individuals who need support through no fault of their own? Surely, that's selfish behaviour? ...

DaveT said:

TheSkinMechanic said:

The NHS is under tremendous pressure due to creeping privatisation and years of deliberate underfunding for ideological reasons. This is a matter of public record.

The NHS is there for anyone who needs it. It is irrelevant whether they are overweight, underweight, smokers, non-smokers, white, black, drivers, cyclists, horse-riders, surfers, alcoholics, mothers, fathers, old 'uns, young 'uns... in short, it is for anyone and everyone, irrespective of whether they are at a higher risk of specific issues or not.

It's the whole point of the NHS.

Singling out a single section of society and then blaming them for the underfunding of the NHS is straight out of the Tory/Daily Mail playbook.

[Edited 1/17/20 6:43am]

But why would you choose to live a lifestyle that would actively increase your chances of needing increased support from the NHS tenfold, thus leaving less resource to treat the unfortunate individuals who need support through no fault of their own? Surely, that's selfish behaviour? ...

There are many reasons why someone could be overweight/underweight - it may not be as simple as someone 'choosing' to have weight issues.

The vast majority of people in the UK will need support from the NHS at some point whatever size they are. If you want to start witholding NHS care to certain individuals because of their lifestyle no-one would ever get treatment.

A woman who chooses to get pregnant will inevitably need support from the NHS. Are you saying they should be denied access to maternity care because of their lifestyle choice?

Are you saying some black women should not be offered maternal care due to her offspring possibly having a higher than average chance of accesssing the NHS at some point in the future with Sickle cell issues?

Or how about smokers/drinkers/meat eaters?

Or someone choosing to live next to a busy road?

Or someone who likes salty snacks?

Or someone who chooses to drive/cycle/walk/run/play/excercise...

All these activities - and pretty much every other activity you can think of - can result in short term and/or long term injuries/conditions that will require NHS support.

I prefer to let people live their own lives without judgement, and support them should they ever need me to offer it.

[Edited 1/17/20 7:32am]