BlaqueKnight said:

macaylasdad said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Its true, she doesn't.

But, he is the one who keeps bringing her and Nick up.

Its 2019. He has no reason to still be clout chasing by using Mariah's name. He hasn't been making much music. He could have used his feature on Fat Joe's record to talk about ANYTHING and he chose Mariah and Nick Cannon?

Nick may be a bit corny but I don't think he's on the wrong side of this for trying.

I think what we need to remember is that Em just stopped recording and went away. I think some artists who stay in this game too long should take that type of approach. 50 Cent, Mariah Carey, Jay Z.. who is really talking about their new music today? No one! As far as why he keeps talking about Mariah, who knows?! Maybe had his heart broken and he knows the best way to get back at Nick is to keep bringing her up. I am not a Mariah fan at all, her game is been over for almost 15 years and the sad thing is she banks on a Christmas song a corny one at that to keep her career relevant. [Edited 12/22/19 18:06pm]

pic it wasn't for Xmas no one would care about a new MC record, she's been in the news for everything but music, her New Year's Eve non singing, as for the others 50 cent he's been done awhile now, it's all about his tv show dude is not been relevant in music since his second album. And jay z lol please hasn't had a decent record in almost 20 years

Aren't diss tracks part and parcel of hip-hop?

noobman said:

Aren't diss tracks part and parcel of hip-hop?

In Rapper's Delight, Big Bank Hank dissed Superman to get Lois Lane. Technically it's been a part of black culture long before hip hop with "the dozens/ranking" & ya mama jokes. Look at the things Fred Sanford & Aunt Esther said to each other. Hip hop has always been about bragging about who's the best MC or the stuff they have. It did get out of hand with the East Coast/West Coast thing in the 1990s though. It wasn't just on records then. Lots of fights and shootouts, even at award shows like the Source Awards. Though that didn't begin with hip hop. Go back to the 1960s with James Brown & Joe Tex or Wilson Pickett & Rudolph Isley.

lastdecember said:

macaylasdad said:

BlaqueKnight said: I think what we need to remember is that Em just stopped recording and went away. I think some artists who stay in this game too long should take that type of approach. 50 Cent, Mariah Carey, Jay Z.. who is really talking about their new music today? No one! As far as why he keeps talking about Mariah, who knows?! Maybe had his heart broken and he knows the best way to get back at Nick is to keep bringing her up. I am not a Mariah fan at all, her game is been over for almost 15 years and the sad thing is she banks on a Christmas song a corny one at that to keep her career relevant. [Edited 12/22/19 18:06pm]

pic it wasn't for Xmas no one would care about a new MC record, she's been in the news for everything but music, her New Year's Eve non singing, as for the others 50 cent he's been done awhile now, it's all about his tv show dude is not been relevant in music since his second album. And jay z lol please hasn't had a decent record in almost 20 years

Even though most of what you say is true, artists don't just make music to please the fans. Sometimes they make a record because they have something they want to express. I mean, nobody ever told Prince that he should stop making music just because he wasn't popular anymore.

But none of that detracts from the fact that nobody is checking for an Eminem record, either (as has been proven) and Eminem is behaving like a 3rd rate clout chaser - throwing Mariah and Nick's names out there just so people can say "ooh, what did he say about them?"

Like I said, of all of the things he could have rapped about, he chose them. No matter how it getsw spun, this started with Eminem and he is to blame, no matter how much you may dislike the others., Ya boy is foul.

BlaqueKnight said:

lastdecember said:

pic it wasn't for Xmas no one would care about a new MC record, she's been in the news for everything but music, her New Year's Eve non singing, as for the others 50 cent he's been done awhile now, it's all about his tv show dude is not been relevant in music since his second album. And jay z lol please hasn't had a decent record in almost 20 years

Even though most of what you say is true, artists don't just make music to please the fans. Sometimes they make a record because they have something they want to express. I mean, nobody ever told Prince that he should stop making music just because he wasn't popular anymore.

But none of that detracts from the fact that nobody is checking for an Eminem record, either (as has been proven) and Eminem is behaving like a 3rd rate clout chaser - throwing Mariah and Nick's names out there just so people can say "ooh, what did he say about them?"

Like I said, of all of the things he could have rapped about, he chose them. No matter how it getsw spun, this started with Eminem and he is to blame, no matter how much you may dislike the others., Ya boy is foul.

I can agree with that, however HUGE difference between Prince jumping genres, and MC has never taken a risk musically. 99% of the music I bought and listened to last year didnt even chart, so I am all about artists that are just making music because its their LIFE not just a side note to their "brand" I cannot artistically equate Nick Cannon coming out with a new record, or even Cardi B or Dj Khaled who all have side gigs that make them money, everything from clothing to energy drinks and then packaging them to fake numbers, I cant equate that to say someone like Van Hunt getting in a van and touring his ass off to fund a record, people toss the term "artist" around way too much. As For MC her releases over the last 20 years have all sounded like the same record, as someone that used to look forward to a new record from her, now I'm like, MC can you just not do a song with the flava of the moment so you can chart. As for Em honestly I could care less about him, he had a few things interesting but I am not a fan of the genre so I cant speak on it like that. To me that genre once it got commercialized lost its reality, it still has some but I cant even keep track of have of these cats charting one thing and then gone. As far as I know doesnt Em still sell? I mean no one obviously sells anymore and expecting him to sell 10M of a record in this day and age like he did once before, lets face it those days for ALL are done, unless you are Taylor Swift. His last album sold 450,000 first week, in these times that is almost Taylor numbers, which is not bad for an almost 50 year old rapper? Im just saying, in terms of sales, that is beyond respectable.

Do yourselves a favor and listen to Mesus' Nick Cannon Diss track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tltp_IsVbA

Eminem is embarrassing because he's a 50 year old man desperately trying to stay relevant with corny and flowless rage.

He tried so hard to get Daddy Trump's attention only for Trump to ignore him. Now he's restarting fueds from 10 years ago to try to stay in the public eye

Strive said:

Eminem is embarrassing because he's a 50 year old man desperately trying to stay relevant with corny and flowless rage.

He tried so hard to get Daddy Trump's attention only for Trump to ignore him. Now he's restarting fueds from 10 years ago to try to stay in the public eye

And that is the sad part. When a dick like him ignores you that's pretty bad considering he never

misses an opportunity to bash someone who clowns him. I was confused by his part on the Fat Joe track because the Nick Mariah diss has absolutely nothing to do with the title of the song.