independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Wed 18th Sep 2019 12:57pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Lover ~ Taylor Swift
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
Reply   New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 08/28/19 7:46am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

Lover ~ Taylor Swift

I've never been a fan of hers, but I also found out a lot of songs I heard, that made me feel good where by her. So go figure. Still not a 'fan' but I really dig that new album deluxe cover/art. Reminded me of some images I've been checking out in connection to Blade Runner. For the hell of it I should start a thread on the new album. Haven't purchased it yet. Maybe I'll buy it. Just to see what is happening in PoP generations I'm so far removed from. I wonder where can this take me lol

dfd0la5w.jpg

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 08/28/19 8:04am

TheFman

Instantly reminded me of an old Neil Young song, will edit when i remember which one.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 08/28/19 8:27am

StrangeButTrue

avatar

.

That's nice. They play her commercial for Amazon.com every morning this week during the news.

Hee Hee Heeeeeee Hoo Hoo Hooooooooooooooo

if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 08/28/19 8:33am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

Taylor Swift on "Lover"

You might say Taylor Swift's happy place is at the piano in her Nashville home. "There have been so many songs that were written at this piano," she said.

"And it's often the middle of the night?" asked correspondent Tracy Smith.

"It's usually in the middle of the night," she replied. "Or if I'm trying to get to sleep and I can't and then I get an idea. And I'm, like, 'Well, I'm not tired anyway!' And then kind of wander over here."

It's kind of a rare sight, not just because "Sunday Morning" was there ("I haven't serenaded someone in a while, hope you know that!"), but because, for the moment, Taylor Swift was actually sitting still.

promise

that you'll never find another like Me-e-e,

Ooh ooh ooh ooh

I'm the only one of me

Baby, that's the fun of me

– "Me!" by Taylor Swift, Joel Little and Brendon Urie

By any measure, she's an amazing young woman. But there were times, she says, that being young, and a woman, worked against her."You're always gonna have people going, 'Did she write all her own songs?'" she said. "Talking about your personal life, talking about your dating life.

"There's a different vocabulary for men and women in the music industry, right?"

"Gimme an example," asked correspondent Tracy Smith.

"Okay. A man does something, it's 'strategic'; a woman does the same thing, it's 'calculated.' A man is allowed to 'react'; a woman can only 'over-react.'"

And it seems her usual reaction is to get to work. Swift writes or co-writes all of her songs. And what's more, her music videos are all her vision, from the pastel wonderland in "Me!":

...to the giant dollhouse in her latest video, "Lover."

That's also the title of her critically-acclaimed new studio album, her seventh. She wrote "Lover" on her piano at home, and polished it up in the studio. And once she recorded the music, Swift (accompanied by and her cats) went to Hollywood to make the music video, and she invited Smith along to watch.

There's a love story here, and like a lot of Swift's work, it's an echo of her real life.

Born in Reading, Pennsylvania, Swift discovered her love for music as a toddler. She set her sights on a career in country music, and eventually her parents and younger brother moved to Nashville to help her do it.

"My brother's a real bro for doing that," Swift said.

"Yeah, they all upended their lives," Smith said.

"For sure."

"It worked out well!"

"Yeah, I buy 'em lots of presents," she laughed.

did reach out to Swift in a tweet last week, calling her new album "brilliant."

It's clear that Swift wants to control her music: When it's time to release one of her new songs, she does it personally, talking to her fans live on Instagram. This personal connection has earned her a loyal following. But her openness comes at price: She's followed just about everywhere she goes these days, by people who are crazy about her – or just plain crazy.

Smith asked, "Where is home for you now?"

"It's a very good question," she said. "I try not to ever really say where I am the most, because since all my addresses are on the internet, people tend to show up uninvited. Like, you know, dudes that think we have an imaginary marriage."

"And you mentioned that you keep wound dressing with you?"

"Yeah. I've had a lot of stalkers show up to the house, armed. So, we have to think that way."

And she's come under attack in other ways: You need only glance at the tabloids to see some very well-publicized feuds, and she often hits back at her haters through her music. For instance, in "You Need to Calm Down," she calls out anti-gay protesters and online trolls:

You are somebody that we don't know

But you're comin' at my friends like a missile

Why are you mad?

When you could be GLAAD?

Sunshine on the street at the parade

But you would rather be in the dark ages ...

Control your urges to scream about all the people you hate

'Cause shade never made anybody less gay

– "You Need to Calm Down" by Taylor Swift and Joel Little

.

Smith asked, "I'm curious, because I feel like almost every album, you have a song where you address the haters, at least one song. Sometimes more than one song."

"I probably do have that habit. I imagine that I might have that habit, yeah."

"Why is that? Why sing to the haters?"

"Well, when they stop coming for me, I will stop singing to them," Swift replied. "You know, people go on and on about, like, you have to forgive and forget to move past something. No, you don't. You don't have to forgive and you don't have to forget to move on. You can move on without any of those things happening. You just become indifferent, and then you move on."

"Do you believe in forgiveness?"

"Yes, absolutely, like, for people that are important in your life who have added, you know, who have enriched your life and made it better, and also there has been some struggle and some bad stuff, too. But I think that, you know, if something's toxic and it's only ever really been that, what are you gonna do?"

"Just move on?"

"Just move on. It's fine."

Taylor Swift's music is always personal, sometimes intensely so. "There's one song on the album called 'Soon You'll Get Better' that it's, I can't even really hear. I can't even listen to it."

She won't talk specifically about her inspiration, but it comes at a time when her mother Andrea, who was battling cancer, suffered a relapse.

Swift said, "It's really interesting because I don't think I have written a song quite like that before. And it's just sort of, like, it's just a tough one."

"I can imagine. But I can also tell you, having listened to it, that it's universal."

"It's just not something that we deal with until we have to, until we see it, until we experience it, until someone close to us is going through something like that. And so, writing about it was really emotional. And I'm just gonna stop talking about it now."

She's more comfortable plunging into her work. On the Hollywood set, a large glass tank will become a symbolic fish bowl in the "Lover" music video.

.

"I very oftentimes remark that my life is like a fish bowl, and that, like, if I were to, like, fall in love, you know, somebody's choosing to be in that fish bowl with me. To jump into the fish bowl with me and live in that world just with me – it's not as depressing as it sounds, I promise! It's just symbolic!"

Talk about fish bowls: she's been dating British actor Joe Alwyn for three years. Seems he's up for a swim.

At the moment, Swift is, well, fully immersed in today. Beyond that, she says she doesn't know ... and doesn't really want to.

Smith asked her, "Do you think about, you know, 'What am I gonna do in 20, 30 years?'"

"No, 'cause that puts me into what I call a panic spiral," Swift replied. "Like, I cannot do that. I've never been able to do that."

Why? "It just freaks me out. When I zoom out too far, I freak out. Do I know where I'm gonna be or even wanna be in 20 years? Absolutely not. Like, not taking a single day for granted."

"So, how far ahead do you look?"

"Six months. Just 'cause I have to plan shows and stuff. But I don't know what I'll do after this album. And I think that's great. I tell myself, like, it's actually really ungrateful to just assume that you have 20 years. Like, be stoked that you have today."

Story produced by John D'Amelio.

taylor_swift_lover_deluxe_edition_4_by_mycierobert_ddd2lw1-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9OTAwIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNDY1ZGZlNDUtZGIyNC00NDg4LWJlM2UtMGMxZTQ4YWVhOWJjXC9kZGQybHcxLTdmMmU1MTliLWE2ZDgtNDMwNS1hZmZlLThiYjZiY2YzNmQ4ZC5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9OTAwIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLm9wZXJhdGlvbnMiXX0.UKlPMipbb8HoF_rBKhAZk2Ic7WQDF8xBoe4hNdo3BBI

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 08/28/19 9:57am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

Included in the deluxe versions:

Lover CD2 bonus audio memos from Taylor's songwriting sessions

Each version includes a unique set of Taylor's journal entries, handwritten lyrics & archived photos

Poster (varies by each version)

1. I Forgot That You Existed Taylor SwiftLouis BellAdam Feeney Frank DukesBellSwift 2:51
2. Cruel Summer SwiftJack AntonoffAnnie Clark AntonoffSwift 2:58
3. Lover Swift AntonoffSwift 3:41
4. The Man SwiftJoel LittleLittleSwift 3:10
5. The Archer SwiftAntonoffAntonoffSwift 3:31
6. I Think He Knows SwiftAntonoff AntonoffSwift 2:53
7. Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince SwiftLittle LittleSwift3:54
8. Paper Rings SwiftAntonoff AntonoffSwift3:42
9. Cornelia Street Swift AntonoffSwift 4:47
10. Death by a Thousand Cuts SwiftAntonoff AntonoffSwift 3:19
11. London Boy SwiftAntonoffCautious ClayMark Anthony Spears AntonoffSounwaveSwift 3:10
12. Soon You'll Get Better (featuring Dixie Chicks) SwiftAntonoff AntonoffSwift 3:22
13. False God SwiftAntonoff AntonoffSwift 3:20
14. You Need to Calm Down SwiftLittle LittleSwift 2:51
15. Afterglow SwiftBellFeeney DukesBellSwift 3:43
16. Me! (featuring Brendon Urie of Panic! at the Disco) SwiftLittleUrie LittleSwift 3:13
17. It's Nice to Have a Friend SwiftBellFeeney DukesBellSwift 2:30
18. Daylight Swift AntonoffSwift 4:53

Target deluxe edition and Japanese bonus tracks
No. Title Length
19. I Forgot That You Existed (piano/vocal) 3:30
20. Lover (piano/vocal) 5:39

69604456_2390275534358960_7132133210388955136_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQlaecak9cyfZWF793fH0s8aK18NskS8aRyOvRw6l5i4d-mm9ex4S6W-6UZ386mVovA&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=60b7a162751ab0d5a69bf6cefeac4fae&oe=5E09D055

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 08/28/19 10:48am

StrangeButTrue

avatar

Interesting that Cautious Clay is listen for #11 London Boy. I dig CC. Still prob won't ever listen to it.

if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 08/28/19 11:08am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

Taylor Swift at the 2019 MTV VMAs

.

.

.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 08/28/19 1:44pm

TheFman

LOL, i didnt know the girl or any of her songs until today (i knew about her existance, that's all), but when i saw that clip, I felt something's off but i had no clue what. Now I know, it's alibismus. I googled her list of love interests, and euuh, no-one looked like the guy in the clip, to say it kindly... It's just for the number of viewers...

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 08/28/19 2:03pm

Missmusicluver
72

I like Taylor and I find her music to be very catchy. I admire the fact that she does write and produce her own music which is a rarity in mainstream music these days.

[Edited 8/28/19 14:04pm]

Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above~
The only Love there is, is the Love We Make~
Prince4Ever
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 08/28/19 2:59pm

gandorb

Hey, I'm sensing the beginning of a litlle fanning within you wink . I have to admit that I did stream the entire album and picked about 5 songs that I liked. This has been a major secret until now. My own kids probably wouldn't forgive me. It is too pop to listen to the whole thing but it counterbalances all the darkish music I listen to. Just keep this confiedential.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Taylor Swift at the 2019 MTV VMAs

.

.

.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 08/28/19 5:35pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

lol I don't know if fanning is the word.

There are a lot of songs I like by artists but I never became a fan.
I was in Target one day and the colors of the cd deluxe caught my attention.
I'm very visual, and textures really get's me.

1. I've been really into deco and neon colors of the same on her album lately:Blade Runner, Prince's Lovesexy era used a lot of these colored tones

2. I love baked goods, good quality stuff, artistic frostings, the album colors reminded me of that, and I've gone about a week without some frosting.

1 + 2 = interest in Lover lol

shhhhh I loved Sometimes (I Run) by Britney Spears lol

.

I like sugar lol And I too listen to a lot of deep stuff, even underground and jazz music that is instrumental can be very introspective, contemplative and grown.

.
I won't tell you secret

.

reminds me of summer time, being young and having fun at Carnivals and Amusement parks at night time...

68782523_1382450708579351_7815793713585586176_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_eui2=AeGM7EmwStune7ySn3QqjfcBlbjrM3jMAHXzNyDzfeTyqElGhtBAO5RH9pHMK6etD4_Z0QCI4FhtulvKeNosRIrbJeZk8bapYVcsVnxRUDIP5A&_nc_oc=AQnFP3GumlaOZNIhHysKfqGzXqB1iP222xTiXZCPKJXC1k13MH1j1GpUh4StBtONSJA&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=d7246ab43a7d46395df9a4b8105b69d3&oe=5E04796A

29257724_1619839181402603_4766777523709149184_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_eui2=AeFiIxaoyFOzhDH29YQFmJk33BP50PhHMTnR-GvRIQIdLYT-WtBeNn3vWULS3UI-y9mltAf55aC3_iNf2wUC04HDR9XZE0JEuvhiLnDAnOD2XA&_nc_oc=AQnTcIQ00168QsTO60-UaJFkpFDkkyKwJxChRHK0IgkniWvtTJhV8VDaXUW_u-ZCIBo&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=523dfcd7a51485d242862ea9261e58e0&oe=5E0FD89D

and listening to Louie Vega and really digging the visuals. So futuristic looking

69103274_2389898061063374_5513611532631539712_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_eui2=AeFG5dnfWOi5DSI6vyC4BANNeRL2ccfd9TZBHl78ICAZjnygSgf25ZF73bSemomQwf_kh0805X3OEWXCepMadtL1f4BtmfN4v4zVohB_L4MEsw&_nc_oc=AQlydetufuxGgJSlcGdokug_RRlv1HxNiJ5HKp08mtUN6PUctWD9Un3ME4pS0RwpT7c&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=c13f82fc902a0bd2e3112b484e0dd9eb&oe=5E070232

gandorb said:

Hey, I'm sensing the beginning of a litlle fanning within you wink . I have to admit that I did stream the entire album and picked about 5 songs that I liked. This has been a major secret until now. My own kids probably wouldn't forgive me. It is too pop to listen to the whole thing but it counterbalances all the darkish music I listen to. Just keep this confiedential.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Taylor Swift at the 2019 MTV VMAs

69296807_2390284391024741_2402721661636837376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQnHJAhsVWl8_SnG6AsUh9uIvHl1fwryp00KIruxgJ4VQIhMoBaEAMfuVyof6eysvdg&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=180324a88223755d90f16a64ecae912f&oe=5E15FD0D

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 08/28/19 5:38pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

TheFman said:

LOL, i didnt know the girl or any of her songs until today (i knew about her existance, that's all), but when i saw that clip, I felt something's off but i had no clue what. Now I know, it's alibismus. I googled her list of love interests, and euuh, no-one looked like the guy in the clip, to say it kindly... It's just for the number of viewers...

billions of people on the planet. I don't try to judge these people. I sure wouldn't want to be in a spotlight for my issues to judged and character condemned. Prince too did a lot of that in his music, he was usually the one done wrong and just didn't know why anyone would want to hurt him...

.

I'm not trying to figure out her character or soul. If alibismus, sells, so be it lol

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 08/28/19 5:58pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

Image may contain: one or more people

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 08/31/19 5:26am

Cloudbuster

avatar

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 09/02/19 8:21pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

VO090119_FRONT_no_coverlines.jpg

Taylor Swift on Sexism, Scrutiny, and Standing Up for Herself

August 8, 2019 8:15 AM
by Abby Aguirre|photographed by Inez and Vinoodh

Cover Look
Taylor Swift wears a Louis Vuitton jumpsuit. Rings by Cartier and Bvlgari. To get this look, try: Dream Urban Cover in Classic Ivory, Fit Me Blush in Pink, Tattoostudio Sharpenable Gel Pencil Longwear Eyeliner Makeup in Deep Onyx, The Colossal Mascara, Brow Ultra Slim in Blonde, and Shine Compulsion by Color Sensational Lipstick in Undressed Pink. All by Maybelline New York. Hair, Christiaan; makeup, Fulvia Farolfi.
Fashion Editor: Tonne Goodman

Photographed by Inez & Vinoodh, Vogue, September 201

IT’S A SUNDAY AFTERNOON in Tribeca, and I’m in Taylor Swift’s loft, inside a former printing house that she has restored and fortified into a sanctuary of brick, velvet, and mahogany. The space is warm and cozy and vaguely literary—later, when we pass through her bedroom en route to her garden, 10 percent of my brain will believe her wardrobe might open up to Narnia. Barefoot in a wine-colored floral top and matching flowy pants, Swift is typing passwords into a laptop to show me the video for “You Need to Calm Down,” eight days before she unleashes it on the world.

Swift and a stream of costars filmed six scenes over about a dozen hours. The singer-songwriter Hayley Kiyoko, known to her fans as “Lesbian Jesus,” shot arrows at a bull’s-eye. The YouTube comedian-chef Hannah Hart danced alongside Dexter Mayfield, the plus-size male model and self-described “big boy in heels.” The Olympic figure skater Adam Rippon served up icy red snow cones. Swift and her close friend Todrick Hall, of Kinky Boots and RuPaul’s Drag Race, sipped tea with the cast of Queer Eye.

The mood was joyous and laid-back. But by the end of the day, I wasn’t sure what the vignettes would add up to. There were shoot days and cameos I wouldn’t observe. For security reasons, the song was never played aloud. (The cast wore ear buds.) Even the hero shot, in which Swift and Hall sauntered arm in arm through the dreamscape at golden hour, was filmed in near-total silence.

For weeks afterward, I tried to sleuth out a theory. I started casually. There was a “5” on the bull’s-eye, so I did a quick search to figure out what that number might mean. Immediately I was in over my head.

Swift has a thing for symbols. I knew she had been embedding secret messages in liner notes and deploying metaphors as refrains since her self-titled debut in 2006—long before her megafame made her into a symbol of pop supremacy. But I hadn’t understood how coded and byzantine her body of work has become; I hadn’t learned, as Swift’s fans have, to see hidden meanings everywhere. For instance: In the 2017 video for “Look What You Made Me Do,” a headstone in a graveyard scene reads NILS SJOBERG, the pseudonym Swift used as her writing credit on Rihanna’s hit “This Is What You Came For,” a Swedish-sounding nod to that country’s pop wizards.

After an excessive amount of ad hoc scholarship—a friend joked that I could have learned Mandarin in the time I spent trying to unpack Swift’s oeuvre—I was no closer to a theory. Pop music has become so layered and meta, but the Taylor Swift Universe stands apart. Apprehending it is like grasping quantum physics.

My first indication of what her new album, Lover, would be about came just after midnight on June 1, the beginning of Pride Month, when Swift introduced a petition in support of the federal Equality Act. This legislation would amend the Civil Rights Act to outlaw discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation. (It has passed the House, but prospects in Mitch McConnell’s Senate are unclear.) Swift also posted a letter to Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, asking him to vote yes. The request, on her personal letterhead (born in 1989. LOVES CATS.), denounced President Trump for not supporting the Equality Act. “I personally reject the president’s stance,” Swift wrote.

Back in the kitchen, Swift hits play. “The first verse is about trolls and cancel culture,” she says. “The second verse is about homophobes and the people picketing outside our concerts. The third verse is about successful women being pitted against each other.”

The video is, for erudite Swifties, a rich text. I had followed enough clues to correctly guess some of the other cameos—Ellen DeGeneres, RuPaul, Katy Perry. I felt the satisfaction of a gamer who successfully levels up—achievement unlocked! The video’s final frame sends viewers to Swift’s change.org petition in support of the Equality Act, which has acquired more than 400,000 signatures—including those of Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Beto O’Rourke, and Kirsten Gillibrand—or four times the number required to elicit an official response from the White House.

“MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO AGO, Todrick and I are in the car, and he asked me, What would you do if your son was gay?”

We are upstairs in Swift’s secret garden, comfortably ensconced in a human-scale basket that is sort of shaped like a cocoon. Swift has brought up an ornate charcuterie board and is happily slathering triple-cream Brie onto sea-salt crackers. “The fact that he had to ask me . . . shocked me and made me realize that I had not made my position clear enough or loud enough,” she says. “If my son was gay, he’d be gay. I don’t understand the question.”


I have pressed Swift on this topic, and her answers have been direct, not performative or scripted. I do sense that she enjoys talking to me about as much as she’d enjoy a root canal—but she’s unfailingly polite, and when we turn to music, her face will light up and she will add little melodic phrases to her speech, clearly her preferred language.

“If he was thinking that, I can’t imagine what my fans in the LGBTQ community might be thinking,” she goes on. “It was kind of devastating to realize that I hadn’t been publicly clear about that.”

I understand why she was surprised; she has been sending pro-LGBTQ signals since at least 2011. Many have been subtle, but none insignificant—especially for a young country star coming out of Nashville.

In the video for her single “Mean” (from 2010’s Speak Now), we see a boy in a school locker room wearing a lavender sweater and bow tie, surrounded by football players. In “Welcome to New York,” the first track on 1989, she sings, “And you can want who you want. Boys and boys and girls and girls.” Two years later, she donated to a fund for the newly created Stonewall National Monument and presented Ruby Rose with a GLAAD Media Award. Every night of last year’s Reputation tour, she dedicated the song “Dress” to Loie Fuller, the openly gay pioneer of modern dance and theatrical lighting who captured the imagination of fin-de-siècle Paris.

more @ https://www.vogue.com/art...ember-2019

taylor-swift-vogue-september-2019_large.jpg?v=1565581762

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 09/05/19 8:45am

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

taylor-swift-lover-songs.jpg

69011385_2390275221025658_7954321441267122176_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQn8JgM4ki7wYXy8R7e4JLcDwzmQ31MUqynpAXrwzHaVwIFbalfsoTdtGctBEAb2toU&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=ce68c411f42eed5252b957f5536d7829&oe=5E125FC3

69106384_2390275207692326_8549195173635031040_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQm6ytB1eem-7K1CckHQZf89pU4ZaqWhvOv3ncUWGpZk3lnsiXgUJn72yVtgvEZS12c&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=9fc2a5b536296839d832d4db4771aafa&oe=5E03513B

LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - MAY 01: (L-R) Brendon Urie of Panic! at the Disco and Taylor Swift perform onstage during the 2019 Billboard Music Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 01, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images for dcp)

69699039_2390275277692319_2639912897005748224_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQkWocaZWULbaMlFmIGqwM_kgTLoVN7_PX9HhVubKCIR_riCdU634qiWi2xRto8LWXk&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=2d9583e3db3af269131cc8336f3e194d&oe=5E02191A

69416583_2392126390840541_5064175344345415680_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQl8husiV2v5aFwXzwHZOXq0vE6OLYFZcQWZ1DZmBWHg-rHcNe7niQs4DcxaujWd1nY&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=7f108aafd1b9c126e8c5429ebd7e5050&oe=5E13B0B8

69515478_2390275457692301_3883954911641075712_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQniTRNta539-Pfdc3gUFQ_NtCOoVfrB9oJfYa-FJCizoH_lFD5kIsAlV-8TwKfX1n0&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=d54d1587dbf8297b1d4bb85de8214357&oe=5DFBB3D9

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 09/05/19 2:50pm

Cloudbuster

avatar

All 18 tracks from her new album are on the Billboard Hot 100. eek

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 09/05/19 3:08pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

Cloudbuster said:

All 18 tracks from her new album are on the Billboard Hot 100. eek

How is that possible?

I'm a bit out of touch with how songs chart now

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 09/05/19 3:19pm

Cloudbuster

avatar

OldFriends4Sale said:

Cloudbuster said:

All 18 tracks from her new album are on the Billboard Hot 100. eek

How is that possible?

I'm a bit out of touch with how songs chart now


Streaming services. It's the first time that she's made a new album available on such platforms on the date of release.
Most songs will probably disappear from the chart next week.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 09/05/19 5:40pm

PennyPurple

avatar

Actually there is a song on this album "I Think He Knows" that has a Prince vibe to me. My daughter thought so too.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 09/06/19 4:31pm

Cloudbuster

avatar

PennyPurple said:

Actually there is a song on this album "I Think He Knows" that has a Prince vibe to me. My daughter thought so too.


This more so. https://www.youtube.com/w...f30KF1cOCc

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 09/06/19 4:48pm

PennyPurple

avatar

Cloudbuster said:

PennyPurple said:

Actually there is a song on this album "I Think He Knows" that has a Prince vibe to me. My daughter thought so too.


This more so. https://www.youtube.com/w...f30KF1cOCc

eek OMG Love it!! Thanks for sharing, I"m putting it on my playlist.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 09/06/19 4:55pm

Cloudbuster

avatar

PennyPurple said:

eek OMG Love it!! Thanks for sharing, I"m putting it on my playlist.


Favourite 'Prince' song that Prince didn't write. music

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 09/06/19 7:54pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

Cloudbuster said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

How is that possible?

I'm a bit out of touch with how songs chart now


Streaming services. It's the first time that she's made a new album available on such platforms on the date of release.
Most songs will probably disappear from the chart next week.

Ah ok, I never considered this aspect

thanx

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 09/07/19 4:22am

ThatWhiteDude

avatar

PennyPurple said:



Cloudbuster said:




PennyPurple said:


Actually there is a song on this album "I Think He Knows" that has a Prince vibe to me. My daughter thought so too.




This more so. https://www.youtube.com/w...f30KF1cOCc



eek OMG Love it!! Thanks for sharing, I"m putting it on my playlist.


Wow eek I'm at loss for words
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


"Extra cheese, extra HAM, extra bullshit" -DiminutiveRocker
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 09/07/19 9:12am

Ugot2shakesumt
hin

avatar

She’s young, can sing, she’s tall and gorgeous and extremely wealthy. She’s talented too i suppose.
And she could care less what I think.
lol
[Edited 9/7/19 9:13am]
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 09/07/19 10:48pm

paisleypark4

avatar

I think the album is pretty solid. Kinda goes on could have kept it at a good 13 tracks. Gets a 7.5/10. Good stuff and great for the kids.
Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemus
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 09/08/19 3:26pm

Mikado

I find it funny how the older she gets the more child-like and bubble gum her music becomes.
[Edited 9/8/19 15:27pm]
A certain kind of mellow.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 09/08/19 3:49pm

Ugot2shakesumt
hin

avatar

Mikado said:

I find it funny how the older she gets the more child-like and bubble gum her music becomes. [Edited 9/8/19 15:27pm]

Hasn't it always been that way?

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 09/08/19 7:28pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

avatar

moderator

Mikado said:

I find it funny how the older she gets the more child-like and bubble gum her music becomes. [Edited 9/8/19 15:27pm]

so you've listened to the album?

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
Reply   New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Lover ~ Taylor Swift