gurrrrrrrrrllllllllllll,,,,,

oceanblue said:

@OldFriends4Sale, I don't understand your question....have I thought "what way" about entertainers that passed away? What, that they shouldn't be written about at all? If Robyn wants to write a book on her relationship with Whitney, that's fine, all I'm saying is that I don't think it's fair to Whitney, since she is no longer around to speak for herself in whatever is put into the book, whether she would agree with what's in or not what's in it, that's all! And to prove my point, in 3b it states "Whitney Houston's Lesbian Lover Robyn Crawford tells".....well, Whitney Houston has never stated that Robyn Crawford was her lover, and has never admitted to being involved in a lesbian relationship with her! Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I have never seen Whitney admit that or acknowledge that...have you? All I know, is that the woman (Whitney) and her daughter, suffered tremendously while they were alive here on earth, and she should be left alone now that she's no longer here, but that's just me! I think so much has been said about her already, most in a negative light, so why even go there once again?

so the 'gay stuff' is really it, and that is ok with the reasoning you gave

OldFriends4Sale said:

oceanblue said:

@OldFriends4Sale, I don't understand your question....have I thought "what way" about entertainers that passed away? What, that they shouldn't be written about at all? If Robyn wants to write a book on her relationship with Whitney, that's fine, all I'm saying is that I don't think it's fair to Whitney, since she is no longer around to speak for herself in whatever is put into the book, whether she would agree with what's in or not what's in it, that's all! And to prove my point, in 3b it states "Whitney Houston's Lesbian Lover Robyn Crawford tells".....well, Whitney Houston has never stated that Robyn Crawford was her lover, and has never admitted to being involved in a lesbian relationship with her! Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I have never seen Whitney admit that or acknowledge that...have you? All I know, is that the woman (Whitney) and her daughter, suffered tremendously while they were alive here on earth, and she should be left alone now that she's no longer here, but that's just me! I think so much has been said about her already, most in a negative light, so why even go there once again?

so the 'gay stuff' is really it, and that is ok with the reasoning you gave

Obviously you are going to think whatever it is that you want to about the subject, and draw your own conclusions regardless, so as you wish! I am not going to continue going back and forth with you for argument sake, because Lord knows there's enough of that going on in our world today, and I want no part of it! Also, I don't like putting those bad feelings of doing so into my heart and soul, it's detrimenting. Peace.

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oceanblue said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

but that is still with the implication that it will be bad stuff

I don't think I implied anything, because I don't know what's written or will be written about Whitney, good or bad. I just think that she should be left in peace, since she's no longer here to reply to anything that's written about her, good or bad.....but that's just my opinion.

[Edited 4/24/19 10:17am]

Why should she have the need to reply when its something good?

Maybe the book is how good of a friend she was.

Are you saying people can not say she was such a good friend because "she can't no longer reply"?

nextedition said:

oceanblue said:

I don't think I implied anything, because I don't know what's written or will be written about Whitney, good or bad. I just think that she should be left in peace, since she's no longer here to reply to anything that's written about her, good or bad.....but that's just my opinion.

[Edited 4/24/19 10:17am]

Why should she have the need to reply when its something good?

Maybe the book is how good of a friend she was.

Are you saying people can not say she was such a good friend because "she can't no longer reply"?

Conversation over.

daingermouz2020 said:

And to think We have the book "Mommy Dearest" from 1978 for starting this trend

And its most likely down the line, a movie will be made from Robyn's book too.

oceanblue said:

nextedition said:

oceanblue said:

Conversation over.

No its not, you just dont have an answr

What are you in pre-school? Sorry, can't come out and play right now.....bye bye!

I am looking forward to read her book. She had been a loyal friend and low key person for the last over seven years. She could had easily speak out after Whitney's death but she rarely did. She was more respectful toward Whitney's death and grieved in silence than some of her OWN family members.

I can related to Whitney as far as struggled with her identity and everyone around her was telling her to be something she wasn't.

No wondered she said Can I Be Me?

ladygirl99 said:

I am looking forward to read her book. She had been a loyal friend and low key person for the last over seven years. She could had easily speak out after Whitney's death but she rarely did. She was more respectful toward Whitney's death and grieved in silence than some of her OWN family members.

I can related to Whitney as far as struggled with her identity and everyone around her was telling her to be something she wasn't.

No wondered she said Can I Be Me?

But Whitney has never spoken about struggling with her identity as far as being gay, that's just it. Neither she nor Robyn has ever admitted to being in a lesbian relationship, it's all been speculation, that is until now, if Robyn actually says so in her book, and even then, like I said, Whitney is no longer around to admit it. When Whitney said "can I be me"...actually none of know what she meant by that, she could have meant being her natural self, the hood Whitney that she really was, instead of the pop princess those around her tried to make her out to be. In all honesty, none of us know what she meant.

oceanblue said:

ladygirl99 said:

I am looking forward to read her book. She had been a loyal friend and low key person for the last over seven years. She could had easily speak out after Whitney's death but she rarely did. She was more respectful toward Whitney's death and grieved in silence than some of her OWN family members.

I can related to Whitney as far as struggled with her identity and everyone around her was telling her to be something she wasn't.

No wondered she said Can I Be Me?

But Whitney has never spoken about struggling with her identity as far as being gay, that's just it. Neither she nor Robyn has ever admitted to being in a lesbian relationship, it's all been speculation, that is until now, if Robyn actually says so in her book, and even then, like I said, Whitney is no longer around to admit it. When Whitney said "can I be me"...actually none of know what she meant by that, she could have meant being her natural self, the hood Whitney that she really was, instead of the pop princess those around her tried to make her out to be. In all honesty, none of us know what she meant.

Why are you obsessed with believing Whitney didn't had a gay relationship? I never once said her identity was strictly about her struggled with gayness. I meant more because she struggled with being black. She was too black for white people (from dating and married Bobby Brown and appealed to the black audiences in the 90s) to was too white (from her first couple of albums and Clive Davis wanted her to have an image that appealed to mainstream aka less black the better and she got booed at Soul Train Awards for not sounding black enough).

Besides Bobby Brown and her estate (when they released that documentary) confirmed she was bisexual. Her estate was behind that documentary by the way. They were there you weren't. You might believe Whitney was straight but I am going to take the word from Sandra Bernard, Rosie ODonell, Bobby Brown and even her estate who all confirmed she was bisexual.

I am sick and tired of fans dismissed people's stories who were inside these celebrities circles, and unless the fans were there then they need to chill please . I am not referring to you of course.

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oceanblue said:

ladygirl99 said:

I can't wait to read it.

In the words of Whitney's ex husband Bobby, that's your perogative, you can do what you want to do.

And you seem bother that I am going to real the book otherwise you wouldn't type that sentence.

Girl bye. But seriously you should read the book. You are going to get from a person who was there.

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ladygirl99 said:

oceanblue said:

But Whitney has never spoken about struggling with her identity as far as being gay, that's just it. Neither she nor Robyn has ever admitted to being in a lesbian relationship, it's all been speculation, that is until now, if Robyn actually says so in her book, and even then, like I said, Whitney is no longer around to admit it. When Whitney said "can I be me"...actually none of know what she meant by that, she could have meant being her natural self, the hood Whitney that she really was, instead of the pop princess those around her tried to make her out to be. In all honesty, none of us know what she meant.

Why are you obsessed with believing Whitney didn't had a gay relationship? I never once said her identity was strictly about her struggled with gayness. I meant more because she struggled with being black. She was too black for white people (from dating and married Bobby Brown and appealed to the black audiences in the 90s) to was too white (from her first couple of albums and Clive Davis wanted her to have an image that appealed to mainstream aka less black the better and she got booed at Soul Train Awards for not sounding black enough).

Besides Bobby Brown and her estate (when they released that documentary) confirmed she was bisexual. Her estate was behind that documentary by the way. They were there you weren't. I am sick and tired of fans dismissed people's stories who were inside these celebrities circles, and unless the fans were there then they need to shut the F-up. I am not referring to you of course.

Not obsessed at all, and why would I be? And I did not watch the documentary, so I had no idea of what Bobby Brown and her estate confirmed about her being bisexual. I was also talking about her being "too black" in which is what I meant by saying I think they wanted her to be a "pop princess" instead of being "hood." But even if Whitney meant being gay, it certainly wouldn't matter to me. I just think that those around her wanted her to cater to the white audience and not be her true self, in which was really more black, like the hood she grew up in. And trust me, I could not care less if you read the book or not......why should I??? Don't get that one at all! ......Oh yeah, and girl bye, right back at ya.

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oceanblue said:

ladygirl99 said:

Why are you obsessed with believing Whitney didn't had a gay relationship? I never once said her identity was strictly about her struggled with gayness. I meant more because she struggled with being black. She was too black for white people (from dating and married Bobby Brown and appealed to the black audiences in the 90s) to was too white (from her first couple of albums and Clive Davis wanted her to have an image that appealed to mainstream aka less black the better and she got booed at Soul Train Awards for not sounding black enough).

Besides Bobby Brown and her estate (when they released that documentary) confirmed she was bisexual. Her estate was behind that documentary by the way. They were there you weren't. I am sick and tired of fans dismissed people's stories who were inside these celebrities circles, and unless the fans were there then they need to shut the F-up. I am not referring to you of course.

Not obsessed at all, and why would I be? And I did not watch the documentary, so I had no idea of what Bobby Brown and her estate confirmed about her being bisexual. I was also talking about her being "too black" in which is what I meant by saying I think they wanted her to be a "pop princess" instead of being "hood." But even if Whitney meant being gay, it certainly wouldn't matter to me. I just think that those around her wanted her to cater to the white audience and not be her true self, in which was really more black, like the hood she grew up in. And trust me, I could not care less if you read the book or not......why should I??? Don't get that one at all! ......Oh yeah, and girl bye, right back at ya.

[Edited 4/28/19 11:15am]

I thought it was weird that you reply when I said I am going to read the book. It seems you don't want people to read the book or something. I was wondering too because Robyn seemed like she was one of the ones who was a true person to her and very low-key and she is one person I don't mind reading book. But hey if you don't read her book its your choice too.

Oh okay to the rest of the post. You seemed bother that she might been bisexual/gay as I read some of your older posts with other posters.

oceanblue said:

nextedition said:

Why should she have the need to reply when its something good?

Maybe the book is how good of a friend she was.

Are you saying people can not say she was such a good friend because "she can't no longer reply"?

Conversation over.

come on now lol if you keep replying in the thread the conversation is not over. And if you never reply again in the thread, the conversation is not over.

oceanblue said:

ladygirl99 said:

I am looking forward to read her book. She had been a loyal friend and low key person for the last over seven years. She could had easily speak out after Whitney's death but she rarely did. She was more respectful toward Whitney's death and grieved in silence than some of her OWN family members.

I can related to Whitney as far as struggled with her identity and everyone around her was telling her to be something she wasn't.

No wondered she said Can I Be Me?

But Whitney has never spoken about struggling with her identity as far as being gay, that's just it. Neither she nor Robyn has ever admitted to being in a lesbian relationship, it's all been speculation, that is until now, if Robyn actually says so in her book, and even then, like I said, Whitney is no longer around to admit it. When Whitney said "can I be me"...actually none of know what she meant by that, she could have meant being her natural self, the hood Whitney that she really was, instead of the pop princess those around her tried to make her out to be. In all honesty, none of us know what she meant.

Like I said earlier, 'gay things'

OldFriends4Sale said:

oceanblue said:

But Whitney has never spoken about struggling with her identity as far as being gay, that's just it. Neither she nor Robyn has ever admitted to being in a lesbian relationship, it's all been speculation, that is until now, if Robyn actually says so in her book, and even then, like I said, Whitney is no longer around to admit it. When Whitney said "can I be me"...actually none of know what she meant by that, she could have meant being her natural self, the hood Whitney that she really was, instead of the pop princess those around her tried to make her out to be. In all honesty, none of us know what she meant.

Like I said earlier, 'gay things'

And like I said earlier, think whatever it is you want to.....whatever!

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

gurrrrrrrrrllllllllllll,,,,,

oceanblue said:

Good. I like Robyn and she seemed like she genuinely loved and cared for Nippy, in fact I'm more interested in reading her perspective more than anybody else in Whitney's circle. I think she will have an interrsting insight and I feel she won't tarnish Whitney's name.

In Bobby's book(which I read from start to finish in one night) he made peace with Whitney & Robyn's "friendship" and said Whitney died of a broken heart because she couldn't be her true self.

BTW I've had Robyn's book on pre-order for a while now which has been pushed up to Nov 12th,2019

ChocolateBox3121 said:

In Bobby's book(which I read from start to finish in one night) he made peace with Whitney & Robyn's "friendship" and said Whitney died of a broken heart because she couldn't be her true self.

BTW I've had Robyn's book on pre-order for a while now which has been pushed up to Nov 12th,2019

Bobby also said he had sex with a Ghost People in Whitney's inner ciricle can pretty much say anything about her now that she is gone, and can't defend herself.

[Edited 5/18/19 17:39pm]

Goddess4Real said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

In Bobby's book(which I read from start to finish in one night) he made peace with Whitney & Robyn's "friendship" and said Whitney died of a broken heart because she couldn't be her true self.

BTW I've had Robyn's book on pre-order for a while now which has been pushed up to Nov 12th,2019

Bobby also said he had sex with a Ghost People in Whitney's inner ciricle can pretty much say anything about her now that she is gone, and can't defend herself.

[Edited 5/18/19 17:39pm]

True. But Robyn has been the only one until now that has been quiet. Even when Whitney was alive. So it'll be pretty interesting to hear what she has to say. It's almost like if Kirk decided to write a book about Prince(r.i.p.)

2045RadicalMattZ said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6947929/Whitney-Houstons-lesbian-lover-Robyn-Crawford-tell-new-memoir-singer.html

Robyn Crawford to release 'TELL ALL' Book...

i guess she's gotta cash in on this eventually. Sorry the only article I sourced was the DailyMail... that's a trash site and mag.

When Houston passed, Robyn wrote a open letter in Esquire. In it she said she never betray Whitney. So I am a little surprised, I thought Robyn would wait unitl Cissy passed before opening up about their relationship. But it was no secret, Whitney dedicated her albums to Robyn.