Just a question today with all the news about King of Pop and R. Kelly in the news with their music possibly dimming on certain platforms?

Where does it end?

I believe Jimmy Page was very very well known with being with girls as young as 13 while he was an adult. I believe that's against the law. Where's the outrage for Led Zeppelin?

The Rolling Stones? Plenty of underage actions there for sure. David Bowie? etc. etc.

Do we, as a culture, ban their music?

Have moral outrage? Go back and bring it all back into the limelight?

Where does it stop?

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Oh, brother...

It ends when the sicko's all pay for their dirty, evil doings, as they will, in the end.....count on it!

purplethunder3121 said:

Oh, brother...

Well should they?

It seems you take my question for a declaration?

dancerella said:

Throw Ted Nugent in there too!

Numero uno.

But really is anyone out there truly beyond reproach? Especially in the world of music?

You'd also have to add Elvis Presley.

Gotta love "cancel culture". I'm tremendously against censoring music & art. And is "banning" his music gonna stop people from listening to him if they wanted to? Lock his ass up, leave the music alone and let the people decide.

sro100 said:

I don't see what banning their music is going to do. These allegations are nothing new. Alot of behavior in the entertainment business would raise alot of eyes brows if people would really look at it. But for some reason they are quick to throw black entertainers under the bus. They not going to ban anything when it come to Ten, Jimmy Page, The Rolling Stone, Huge Hefner, Harey Weinstein, and etc. When some these people were doing questionable things it was seen as cool now people want to look down on it. They trying to slam R Kelly for having two young girlfriends but when Huge Hefner did it , they gave him a show and it was cool. I do find it interesting how now people are turning on MJ and R Kelly over allegations that were always there. At the end of the day people are going to listen and watch what they want just like people are going to believe what they want so banning this and that is just ridiclous because they are going to have ban a lot if that was the case.

Purplestar88 said:

mnbvc said:

You'd also have to add Elvis Presley.

Exactly, it's always funny to see that they mention all the others, but completely forget Elvis, wonder why that is? I said in another thread that every docu I watched about him, not once did I see or hear anyone saying that him dating 14 year old was weird or wrong. It's like he's untouchable. If you wanna cancel R.Kelly, wich I did because I just can't listen to his music and separate him from his music. But I must say that I wasn't really a fan of his either, so that's probably why avoiding him is so easy. If there'd be the ultimate proof that MJ was guilty, it would probably harder for me to cancel his music, just because I've been a fan for so long.

You migh as well ban every musical artist, musicians, studio execs the whole lot.

And then add actors and actress, tv personalities, tv stations, newpapers etc.

Purplestar88 said:

I don't see what banning their music is going to do. These allegations are nothing new. Alot of behavior in the entertainment business would raise alot of eyes brows if people would really look at it. But for some reason they are quick to throw black entertainers under the bus. They not going to ban anything when it come to Ten, Jimmy Page, The Rolling Stone, Huge Hefner, Harey Weinstein, and etc. When some these people were doing questionable things it was seen as cool now people want to look down on it. They trying to slam R Kelly for having two young girlfriends but when Huge Hefner did it , they gave him a show and it was cool. I do find it interesting how now people are turning on MJ and R Kelly over allegations that were always there. At the end of the day people are going to listen and watch what they want just like people are going to believe what they want so banning this and that is just ridiclous because they are going to have ban a lot if that was the case.

No, no, and no. It's not about R Kelly having 2 girlfriends....it's about R Kelly having sex slaves that are around the ages of 13-14.

BIG difference.

MotownSubdivision said:

Purplestar88 said:

I don't see what banning their music is going to do. These allegations are nothing new. Alot of behavior in the entertainment business would raise alot of eyes brows if people would really look at it. But for some reason they are quick to throw black entertainers under the bus. They not going to ban anything when it come to Ten, Jimmy Page, The Rolling Stone, Huge Hefner, Harey Weinstein, and etc. When some these people were doing questionable things it was seen as cool now people want to look down on it. They trying to slam R Kelly for having two young girlfriends but when Huge Hefner did it , they gave him a show and it was cool. I do find it interesting how now people are turning on MJ and R Kelly over allegations that were always there. At the end of the day people are going to listen and watch what they want just like people are going to believe what they want so banning this and that is just ridiclous because they are going to have ban a lot if that was the case.

We know the reason.

and probably more to come

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

Purplestar88 said:

I don't see what banning their music is going to do. These allegations are nothing new. Alot of behavior in the entertainment business would raise alot of eyes brows if people would really look at it. But for some reason they are quick to throw black entertainers under the bus. They not going to ban anything when it come to Ten, Jimmy Page, The Rolling Stone, Huge Hefner, Harey Weinstein, and etc. When some these people were doing questionable things it was seen as cool now people want to look down on it. They trying to slam R Kelly for having two young girlfriends but when Huge Hefner did it , they gave him a show and it was cool. I do find it interesting how now people are turning on MJ and R Kelly over allegations that were always there. At the end of the day people are going to listen and watch what they want just like people are going to believe what they want so banning this and that is just ridiclous because they are going to have ban a lot if that was the case.

No, no, and no. It's not about R Kelly having 2 girlfriends....it's about R Kelly having sex slaves that are around the ages of 13-14.

BIG difference.

I know about R kelly and his underage sex slaves so I don't need you to tell me about that. If it's not about him having two girlfriends why did did Gail ask the ladies if they are in a three way relationship. She was basically asking if they all sleep together at the same time. She did ask other question that had to do with the issues at hand but I though the question was odd. I mean of all the quesion to ask. If you look into Huge Hefner and research what some of the girlfriends had to say it would raise an eyebrown. Huge was also friends with Bill Croby. Huge might not have been extreme like Bill or R Kelly but he was not an angel. By today's climate he should be drag too. That is my point.

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Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

No, no, and no. It's not about R Kelly having 2 girlfriends....it's about R Kelly having sex slaves that are around the ages of 13-14.

BIG difference.

I know about R kelly and his underage sex slaves so I don't need you to tell me about that. If it's not about him having two girlfriends why did did Gail ask the ladies if they are in a three way relationship. She was basically asking if they all sleep together at the same time. She did ask other question that had to do with the issues at hand but I though the question was odd. I mean of all the quesion to ask. If you look into Huge Hefner and research what some of the girlfriends had to say it would raise an eyebrown. Huge was also friends with Bill Croby. Huge might not have been extreme like Bill or R Kelly but he was not an angel. By today's climate he should be drag too. That is my point.

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Did any of them own sex slaves?

If you can buy/sell/exhibit Hitler's paintings (which you can) then it would seem wrong banning any other artist in any other field.

Having said that, I guess it's up to the owners of any gallery, TV station, radio station to make their own decisions. The BBC no longer show any Top of The Pops featuring Jimmy Saville, which seems a reasonable decision.

Let R. Kelly's music be heard just so his countless victims can sue for a percentage of the predator's streaming royalities.

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BlackCat1985 said:

Hamad said:

Gotta love "cancel culture". I'm tremendously against censoring music & art. And is "banning" his music gonna stop people from listening to him if they wanted to? Lock his ass up, leave the music alone and let the people decide.

I don't care for this at all... Historically, it usually follows some kind of backlash fueled by "witch hunt" mentality (such as the McCarthyism of the 1950s).

He'll be next:

CynicKill said:

That people are defending a sexual predator like R. Kelly under the guise of anti-censorship concerns is sickening, but not surprising.

Ethos said:

What's really telling is what happened on Saturday Night Live this past Saturday.

Pete Davidson gave his commentary on the whole MJ/R Kelly mess and his arguement is pretty much the same as here.

What shocked me was the audible groans and taken abackness of the crowd when he made a joke about the catholic church.

The CATHOLIC CHURCH????

After six thousand exposed priests and Sinead O'Connor you STILL have people publicly defending the church???

How are they even still a thing?

If you didn't know it before you know it now, people are screwed in the head and there's no hope for them.

Yet I'm supposed to get my blood pressure up for R Kelly?

I'll let the courts decide thank you.