^^I'd guess that people who had read the book or seen their Behind The Music episode or an interview will already know what the group is like You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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The Dirt (2019) I think if you are just getting into the group, this film is a good introduction. However, 1 hr and 48 minutes is just not enough time to cover the entire Motley Crue saga, and after watching it, I felt entertained but short changed at the same time. Sure the cast was excellent, especially Machine Gun Kelly who played Tommy Lee (My favorite scenes in the movie was the scene where Tommy was describing how his day would go ) and Iwan Rheon who played Mick Mars, and I loved the end credits showing the split-screen comparisons between the real Crue and the movie Crue. But I also noticed a lot of things that divates from the book, which is covered in this article Fact-Checking Mötley Crüe’s Netflix Movie ‘The Dirt’ https://www.rollingstone....ck-808838/
For example “7. Tommy Didn’t Meet Heather Locklear The Night of Vince’s Car Accident
I give The Dirt a 3 out of 5 while listening to Dr Feelgood....now why wasn't this song and video featured it the film?
[Edited 3/23/19 22:08pm] [Edited 3/23/19 22:11pm] [Edited 3/24/19 14:56pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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It appears Nikki has borrowed the bad wigs from the movie and put them on top of his noggin.
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TrivialPursuit said:
Have to disagree on that on the QUEEN thing, it’s not 5 years too early, that would be 1990 and Freddie was already dieing, one doctor said and to all accounts The Miracle album was going to be the last. But then because touring or playing live was not going to happen they went back to the studio did innuendo then kept working. As for him knowing, all accounts show that he knew in 1986 at some point, and in 1985 he may have had the first sign of it, he was told not to perform at Live Aid by doctors for a throat condition which some have speculated could have been the first sign. But in 1986 had a wound on his leg that would not heal and that’s when he was diagnosed, this wound and leg is confirmed by Brian May years later when the band knew Freddie showed this horrible effect to Brian and Brian had to look away and Freddie apologized for doing that to Brian. So live Aid is questionable but it’s hollywood and they will do things to magnify a situation. There are many in Purple Rain and I have heard a lot of the Dirt is not correct. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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MickyDolenz said: ^^I'd guess that people who had read the book or seen their Behind The Music episode or an interview will already know what the group is like And they’d enjoy a representation on screen | |
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the film was a sanitized history of the group. Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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A slew of interviews out there, some with Tommy, most all with Nikki. Vince is nowhere to be seen. I am not sure why. Is the movie tough to watch with the stuff he endured? I don't know. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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TrivialPursuit said: A slew of interviews out there, some with Tommy, most all with Nikki. Vince is nowhere to be seen. I am not sure why. Is the movie tough to watch with the stuff he endured? I don't know. Vince was portrayed well. I think they all made sure they all came out looking well rock n’roll wise. It’s a short little fluff piece of a movie with a little sex and debauchery thrown in. | |
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casting of the Crue was spot on Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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Were we all watching the same movie? I've been a bigger than I'd like to admit Crue head for quite some time, and that movie was mostly... pretty goddamn awful. The casting for the band was impeccable, but the actual script itself was infuriating for me. None of the time lines made sense, they gave fuckin Pete Davidson way more screen time for a guy that really wasn't THAT significant in the book, and I'd wager the real Tom Zutuat would agree. They also got the facts wrong. Lee didn't meet Heather at the party Vince and Razzle left to get booze for, the band did NOT get back together so quickly after Skylar's death (and Jesus man, they actually used some of the dialogue Vince said to Tommy in a drunken stupor as something he said to the band themselves? That's low), and holy shit did they totally paint right over the Corabi years and his very significant input during that era. That 94 album they did is still their best and clearly most musically accomplished lp. . Look, I know my fanboy colors are showing, but the book is suuuuch an amazing and awesome read. You may not like the band, or the members themselves and I wouldn't blame you for thinking that (except for Mick Mars. He's the only member pretty much universally respected and the only one who hasn't made a fool of himself multiple times in public). But that book? There's just something magical about it and how it was executed. It's format and how most of the source material was explained from each member's view was genius. And this is why the movie failed for me. And really, a two hour movie for a book that dense and that crazy? Doomed to fail, doomed to be picked apart by dorks like me with too much time on their overly critical hands. This could have been incredible if it were given a 6-7 episode mini series. But the film has some great one liners though ("Hey man, muzzle that!"). Overall, 3/10. And one more thing and I promise I'm done: The Doc McGee arc and why he was fired in the movie almost made me pull a Motley Crue and throw my TV out the window. The fucking balls of the screen writers, man. Get in your mouse, and get out of here! | |
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Other than BET, who does music miniseries? They had a 3 night one for New Edition & a 2 night one for Bobby Brown. There were the ones from the 1990s for The Jacksons & The Temptations on NBC I think. There was a telenovela series about Celia Cruz a few years ago. But since it was a soap, probably not that factual, like historical fiction. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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MickyDolenz said:
Other than BET, who does music miniseries? They had a 3 night one for New Edition & a 2 night one for Bobby Brown. There were the ones from the 1990s for The Jacksons & The Temptations on NBC I think. There was a telenovela series about Celia Cruz a few years ago. But since it was a soap, probably not that factual, like historical fiction. Well, considering it was Netflix that ultimately got the rights, them. It's just...in my humble opinion of course, the project had incredible potential. So incredible, in fact, that a 2 hour standard movie format wasn't really conducive to get the batshit craziness of the book across. But hey, they were given the hand they were dealt and in turn just totally shit the bed by releasing the convoluted, disorganized final product we all just watched. I really wanted to like this movie, my expectations weren't impossibly high and I was totally stoked to finally watch it. But holy shit I did not expect this disaster, and I say that with everything else I've already expressed with zero arrogance. Get in your mouse, and get out of here! | |
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Watched it again (3rd time) tonight. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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