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Reply #630 posted 02/11/19 2:59pm

Goddess4Real

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hmmm

Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

Tea time 1f438.png2615.png Wade and I were together for over 7 years, but I bet that isn’t in his “documentary” because it would ruin his timeline. And did I mention, it was my uncle, #MichaelJackson, who set us up? Wade is not a victim, #WadeRobsonIsaLiar

Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

I pray he comes at me for these #truths cause I will happily put him in his place.

Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

I found out Wade cheated on me with multiple woman who he hoped would advance his career. You might know one of them, because it was a huge pop music scandal. Wade is not a victim, he’s an #Opportunist

Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

Wade: You constantly talked about wanting to be “relevant”. You’ve burned so many bridges that now the only time you are #relevant is when you headline with my family’s name next to yours. It’s time to stop these lies and live your own life. #LiesRunSprintsButTruthsRunMarathons

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I bet the press won’t print this!

Taj Jackson‏Verified account @tajjackson3

Taj Jackson Retweeted Brandi Jackson

Most of the music industry and dance industry know this. It’s why they don’t want to work with him anymore. Wade only cares about Wade. Cry me a river Wade Robson.

Taj Jackson‏Verified account @tajjackson3 1h1 hour ago

Taj Jackson Retweeted Justice for The Falsely Accused

Exactly. Wade is counting on people's ignorance and gullibility. He's counting on the #Metoomovement rushing to his side without properly vetting him or looking into his many inconsistencies. As a victim myself, when you tell the truth you don't need to change your story 3 times.

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Reply #631 posted 02/11/19 5:02pm

Free2BMe

Goddess4Real said:

hmmm



Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago



Tea time 1f438.png2615.png Wade and I were together for over 7 years, but I bet that isn’t in his “documentary” because it would ruin his timeline. And did I mention, it was my uncle, #MichaelJackson, who set us up? Wade is not a victim, #WadeRobsonIsaLiar







Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

I pray he comes at me for these #truths cause I will happily put him in his place.




Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

I found out Wade cheated on me with multiple woman who he hoped would advance his career. You might know one of them, because it was a huge pop music scandal. Wade is not a victim, he’s an #Opportunist




Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

Wade: You constantly talked about wanting to be “relevant”. You’ve burned so many bridges that now the only time you are #relevant is when you headline with my family’s name next to yours. It’s time to stop these lies and live your own life. #LiesRunSprintsButTruthsRunMarathons





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I bet the press won’t print this!



Taj Jackson‏Verified account @tajjackson3





Taj Jackson Retweeted Brandi Jackson



Most of the music industry and dance industry know this. It’s why they don’t want to work with him anymore. Wade only cares about Wade. Cry me a river Wade Robson.


Taj Jackson‏Verified account @tajjackson3 1h1 hour ago




Taj Jackson Retweeted Justice for The Falsely Accused



Exactly. Wade is counting on people's ignorance and gullibility. He's counting on the #Metoomovement rushing to his side without properly vetting him or looking into his many inconsistencies. As a victim myself, when you tell the truth you don't need to change your story 3 times.














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👍🏽👏👌 I wonder how that lying bitch Wade Robson will manipulate and spin this? Will he change his story AGAIN?
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Reply #632 posted 02/11/19 7:25pm

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RODSERLING said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

ONLY person Katherine EVER said kidnapped her was her nephew Trent Jackson. She has NEVER said JANET,Randy or Rebbie did that.

Paris and Prince said it

Paris & Prince aren't Katherine. She's the only one that would know & can speak of her being kidnapped. What would be the purpose of kidnapping your own mother? U can see your Mother whenever U want. Just like the bold face lie that was told that Janet slapped Paris. Smh

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Reply #633 posted 02/11/19 8:01pm

SoulAlive

ChocolateBox3121 said:



RODSERLING said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


ONLY person Katherine EVER said kidnapped her was her nephew Trent Jackson. She has NEVER said JANET,Randy or Rebbie did that.



Paris and Prince said it

Paris & Prince aren't Katherine. She's the only one that would know & can speak of her being kidnapped. What would be the purpose of kidnapping your own mother? U can see your Mother whenever U want. Just like the bold face lie that was told that Janet slapped Paris. Smh



The Jackson children,including Janet,kidnapped Katherine.They were gonna try to get her to sign over her share of MJ’s estate.They wrongly assumed that she was being deceived by those lawyers that MJ left in charge.It was a shameful plot by the Jacksons and I was disappointed at Janet for participating in that.
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Reply #634 posted 02/11/19 8:03pm

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Free2BMe said:

Goddess4Real said:

hmmm

Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

Tea time 1f438.png2615.png Wade and I were together for over 7 years, but I bet that isn’t in his “documentary” because it would ruin his timeline. And did I mention, it was my uncle, #MichaelJackson, who set us up? Wade is not a victim, #WadeRobsonIsaLiar

Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

I pray he comes at me for these #truths cause I will happily put him in his place.

Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

I found out Wade cheated on me with multiple woman who he hoped would advance his career. You might know one of them, because it was a huge pop music scandal. Wade is not a victim, he’s an #Opportunist

Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

Wade: You constantly talked about wanting to be “relevant”. You’ve burned so many bridges that now the only time you are #relevant is when you headline with my family’s name next to yours. It’s time to stop these lies and live your own life. #LiesRunSprintsButTruthsRunMarathons

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I bet the press won’t print this!

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Taj Jackson Retweeted Brandi Jackson

Most of the music industry and dance industry know this. It’s why they don’t want to work with him anymore. Wade only cares about Wade. Cry me a river Wade Robson.

Taj Jackson‏Verified account @tajjackson3 1h1 hour ago

Taj Jackson Retweeted Justice for The Falsely Accused

Exactly. Wade is counting on people's ignorance and gullibility. He's counting on the #Metoomovement rushing to his side without properly vetting him or looking into his many inconsistencies. As a victim myself, when you tell the truth you don't need to change your story 3 times.

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👍🏽👏👌 I wonder how that lying bitch Wade Robson will manipulate and spin this? Will he change his story AGAIN?

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Really worth pondering how Robson made an enemy of Justin Timberlake, contributed to Britney's breakdown, & how that affected his career. Working on was probably his last hope of any relevance. When he didn't get that job, he decided to get famous by lying.

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Reply #635 posted 02/11/19 8:51pm

Free2BMe

Free2BMe said:

Goddess4Real said:

hmmm



Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago



Tea time 1f438.png2615.png Wade and I were together for over 7 years, but I bet that isn’t in his “documentary” because it would ruin his timeline. And did I mention, it was my uncle, #MichaelJackson, who set us up? Wade is not a victim, #WadeRobsonIsaLiar












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Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago



I’ve been hearing for years that the liar Wade Robson dated one or more

I pray he comes at me for these #truths cause I will happily put him in his place.




Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

I found out Wade cheated on me with multiple woman who he hoped would advance his career. You might know one of them, because it was a huge pop music scandal. Wade is not a victim, he’s an #Opportunist




Brandi Jackson‏ @BJackson82 2h2 hours ago

Wade: You constantly talked about wanting to be “relevant”. You’ve burned so many bridges that now the only time you are #relevant is when you headline with my family’s name next to yours. It’s time to stop these lies and live your own life. #LiesRunSprintsButTruthsRunMarathons





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Replying to @BJackson82


I bet the press won’t print this!



Taj Jackson‏Verified account @tajjackson3





Taj Jackson Retweeted Brandi Jackson



Most of the music industry and dance industry know this. It’s why they don’t want to work with him anymore. Wade only cares about Wade. Cry me a river Wade Robson.


Taj Jackson‏Verified account @tajjackson3 1h1 hour ago




Taj Jackson Retweeted Justice for The Falsely Accused



Exactly. Wade is counting on people's ignorance and gullibility. He's counting on the #Metoomovement rushing to his side without properly vetting him or looking into his many inconsistencies. As a victim myself, when you tell the truth you don't need to change your story 3 times.














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👍🏽👏👌 I wonder how that lying bitch Wade Robson will manipulate and spin this? Will he change his story AGAIN?


The bitch Wade Robson’s lies have begun to unravel. I have said many times that he @#$&*# Britney Spears and broke up,the relationship between her and Justin. Now it has been revealed that he cheated on the woman he dated- Michael’s niece Brandy, in order to further his career. Of course, this doesn’t play into Robsons scenario because this bitch basically claims that while he was having sex with Britney AND Brandi, he had no idea what a sexual act was. This liar claims that he didn’t know being butt raped was a sex act. His bitch co-conspirator, James Safechuck even claims that Michael discouraged he and Robson from dating GIRLS.
Of course, it was Michael who introduced his niece to Robson. O what a tangled web these two liars weaved. Of course they are depending on the gullible and stupid to believe their lies.
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Reply #636 posted 02/11/19 9:17pm

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Free2BMe said:

Free2BMe said:
👍🏽👏👌 I wonder how that lying bitch Wade Robson will manipulate and spin this? Will he change his story AGAIN?
The bitch Wade Robson’s lies have begun to unravel. I have said many times that he @#$&*# Britney Spears and broke up,the relationship between her and Justin. Now it has been revealed that he cheated on the woman he dated- Michael’s niece Brandy, in order to further his career. Of course, this doesn’t play into Robsons scenario because this bitch basically claims that while he was having sex with Britney AND Brandi, he had no idea what a sexual act was. This liar claims that he didn’t know being butt raped was a sex act. His bitch co-conspirator, James Safechuck even claims that Michael discouraged he and Robson from dating GIRLS. Of course, it was Michael who introduced his niece to Robson. O what a tangled web these two liars weaved. Of course they are depending on the gullible and stupid to believe their lies.

8h8 hours ago

Tea time 🐸☕️ Wade and I were together for over 7 years, but I bet that isn’t in his “documentary” because it would ruin his timeline. And did I mention, it was my uncle, , who set us up? Wade is not a victim,

45m45 minutes ago

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Girl I was waiting for you to speak your truth! He even told ME that uncle Michael put you guys together. 🙏👊❤️

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Reply #637 posted 02/11/19 9:30pm

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SoulAlive said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:



RODSERLING said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


ONLY person Katherine EVER said kidnapped her was her nephew Trent Jackson. She has NEVER said JANET,Randy or Rebbie did that.



Paris and Prince said it

Paris & Prince aren't Katherine. She's the only one that would know & can speak of her being kidnapped. What would be the purpose of kidnapping your own mother? U can see your Mother whenever U want. Just like the bold face lie that was told that Janet slapped Paris. Smh



The Jackson children,including Janet,kidnapped Katherine.They were gonna try to get her to sign over her share of MJ’s estate.They wrongly assumed that she was being deceived by those lawyers that MJ left in charge.It was a shameful plot by the Jacksons and I was disappointed at Janet for participating in that.


yeahthat yeahthat
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Reply #638 posted 02/11/19 10:29pm

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ForgottenPassword said:[quote]



wilmer said:


It's hard not to be suspicious of either side. How can one argue fo MJ when in 93 Jordie Chandler gave an almost accurate description of MJ's genitals even mentioning that MJ had a brown splotch on the underside of his penis? Which was confirmed at the autopsy. How can we explain that? Only thing he didn't nail was saying that MJ was circumcised. If it really happened, would one have expected him to really know? And what was MJ doing sleeping with somebody else's child in the first place? You want children? Whatever happened to adopting? At the same time, the tape-recorded conversation of the boy's father back in 93 is straight-up suspect. And these jokers claiming repressed memory, saying they didn't recognize it as sexual abuse. Seriously? It took you that long? Not even on the witness stand? Didn't it dawn upon you then that it was the same thing that had been done to you? To me, the water is still murky




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You've been had, wilmer. Chandler failed to give an accurate description of MJ's genitals. I find it amazing that this piece of information has been so extensively repeated and misreported.

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Thank you. Yes, Wilmer has been had and bamboozled. It’s a shame people are so easily manipulated by the tabloids. What Wilmer uttered has no,basis in reality or evidence. Sigh, it’s going to take awhile to,educate the uneducated and gullible.
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Reply #639 posted 02/11/19 11:35pm

RODSERLING

This Wade Robson is really full of shit.
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Why exactly can't the estate sue him and HBO?
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Reply #640 posted 02/11/19 11:51pm

PeteSilas

coincidentally, i'm reading about muhammad ali having a child with a woman who was only twelve when he first had sex. i don't believe, and i did research before where info came out that she was a headcase and she was after money, most tellingly, they found that she'd lied about her age, probably to make her claim more shocking. Famous people have to deal with a lot of bullshit and usually because of money.

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Reply #641 posted 02/12/19 12:18am

JorisE73

I know people wnat this doc banned but it will probably not work.

It'll be on Dutch TV early march so that means hopefully alit of people like Brandi Jackson will come out before that to expose Wade Robinson for being the liar he is. Fuck him!

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Reply #642 posted 02/12/19 12:56am

RODSERLING

PeteSilas said:

coincidentally, i'm reading about muhammad ali having a child with a woman who was only twelve when he first had sex. i don't believe, and i did research before where info came out that she was a headcase and she was after money, most tellingly, they found that she'd lied about her age, probably to make her claim more shocking. Famous people have to deal with a lot of bullshit and usually because of money.



That s why Prince ever let approach groupies. Too much risk of extortion
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Reply #643 posted 02/12/19 1:07am

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RODSERLING said:

PeteSilas said:

coincidentally, i'm reading about muhammad ali having a child with a woman who was only twelve when he first had sex. i don't believe, and i did research before where info came out that she was a headcase and she was after money, most tellingly, they found that she'd lied about her age, probably to make her claim more shocking. Famous people have to deal with a lot of bullshit and usually because of money.



That s why Prince ever let approach groupies. Too much risk of extortion

Bunch of me too motherfuckers
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Reply #644 posted 02/12/19 2:07am

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This Wade Robson is really full of shit. . Why exactly can't the estate sue him and HBO?

defamation laws doesn't extend to the deceased

It's why so many crackpot writers and tv networks (like Reelz, tabloid magazines and writers like Darwin Porter and others) get away with writing outright false stories about celebrities after they die

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #645 posted 02/12/19 5:21am

wilmer

Free2BMe said:[quote]

ForgottenPassword said:



wilmer said:


It's hard not to be suspicious of either side. How can one argue fo MJ when in 93 Jordie Chandler gave an almost accurate description of MJ's genitals even mentioning that MJ had a brown splotch on the underside of his penis? Which was confirmed at the autopsy. How can we explain that? Only thing he didn't nail was saying that MJ was circumcised. If it really happened, would one have expected him to really know? And what was MJ doing sleeping with somebody else's child in the first place? You want children? Whatever happened to adopting? At the same time, the tape-recorded conversation of the boy's father back in 93 is straight-up suspect. And these jokers claiming repressed memory, saying they didn't recognize it as sexual abuse. Seriously? It took you that long? Not even on the witness stand? Didn't it dawn upon you then that it was the same thing that had been done to you? To me, the water is still murky


I may have been had. I'm willing to admit that. Most of us rely on the media and to some of the media the truth is irrelevant.However, if you are not going to trust what they say, what am I going to base my opinions on. Maybe you can point me to a reliable objective source that has nothing invested in this to get the facts straight. I've been an MJ fan for 27 years and I love the guy, but I want to have a better argument to defend him than just wishful thinking.

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You've been had, wilmer. Chandler failed to give an accurate description of MJ's genitals. I find it amazing that this piece of information has been so extensively repeated and misreported.

[/quote

Thank you. Yes, Wilmer has been had and bamboozled. It’s a shame people are so easily manipulated by the tabloids. What Wilmer uttered has no,basis in reality or evidence. Sigh, it’s going to take awhile to,educate the uneducated and gullible.
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Reply #646 posted 02/12/19 5:27am

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SoulAlive said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Paris & Prince aren't Katherine. She's the only one that would know & can speak of her being kidnapped. What would be the purpose of kidnapping your own mother? U can see your Mother whenever U want. Just like the bold face lie that was told that Janet slapped Paris. Smh

The Jackson children,including Janet,kidnapped Katherine.They were gonna try to get her to sign over her share of MJ’s estate.They wrongly assumed that she was being deceived by those lawyers that MJ left in charge.It was a shameful plot by the Jacksons and I was disappointed at Janet for participating in that.

I know all the sorid details of what was "said" that happened. But still Katherine NEVER verified it. She ONLY said her nephew kidnapped her & stole money from her two years ago.

This is the statement she made about the fabrication of the other false kidnapping.

"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped and held against my will," she said in the prepared statement. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am fine.

"My children would never do a thing to me like that, holding me against my will. It's very stupid for people to think that," she said. "There's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out, and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense."

Katherine out of her own MOUTH.


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Reply #647 posted 02/12/19 9:29am

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defamation laws doesn't extend to the deceased


Which is totally absurd. Libel and defamation is just that. Regardless of whether the person it concerns is alive or dead.

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Reply #648 posted 02/12/19 2:54pm

ItsLetoyaBaby

ChocolateBox3121 said:

SoulAlive said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: The Jackson children,including Janet,kidnapped Katherine.They were gonna try to get her to sign over her share of MJ’s estate.They wrongly assumed that she was being deceived by those lawyers that MJ left in charge.It was a shameful plot by the Jacksons and I was disappointed at Janet for participating in that.

I know all the sorid details of what was "said" that happened. But still Katherine NEVER verified it. She ONLY said her nephew kidnapped her & stole money from her two years ago.

This is the statement she made about the fabrication of the other false kidnapping.

"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped and held against my will," she said in the prepared statement. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am fine.

"My children would never do a thing to me like that, holding me against my will. It's very stupid for people to think that," she said. "There's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out, and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense."

Katherine out of her own MOUTH.


In my opinion it's easy to figure out that statement was made by the siblings in Katherine's name for damage control.

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Reply #649 posted 02/12/19 3:02pm

ItsLetoyaBaby

As for Michael Jackson I have been reading a lot of stuff in a website about him and I am now inclined to at least give the doc a chance. Someone said that we don't have to understand everything regarding MJ's behavior. I agree. But when it comes to sleeping with young boys one-on-one I believe I am entitled to ask some questions. If there are no answers for it on the positive side, one tends to stretch the neck and look at the other side. I've spent a lot of time and emotional baggage on MJ as a teenager and young adult as I was a HUGE fan. I'd hate to reach the conclusion that it was all for nothing, a waste. I'll watch the doc and make up my mind after watching it.

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Reply #650 posted 02/12/19 3:14pm

alphastreet

Honesty is always appreciated even if it hurts. I feel they’re lying about abuse, but there was closeness at some point with these families
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Reply #651 posted 02/12/19 3:34pm

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ItsLetoyaBaby said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I know all the sorid details of what was "said" that happened. But still Katherine NEVER verified it. She ONLY said her nephew kidnapped her & stole money from her two years ago.

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"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped and held against my will," she said in the prepared statement. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am fine.

"My children would never do a thing to me like that, holding me against my will. It's very stupid for people to think that," she said. "There's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out, and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense."

Katherine out of her own MOUTH.


In my opinion it's easy to figure out that statement was made by the siblings in Katherine's name for damage control.

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NO it WASN'T!
This is the statement Katherine made about the fabrication of the false kidnapping out of her OWN MOUTH!

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Reply #652 posted 02/12/19 4:03pm

SoulAlive

ChocolateBox3121 said:



SoulAlive said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


Paris & Prince aren't Katherine. She's the only one that would know & can speak of her being kidnapped. What would be the purpose of kidnapping your own mother? U can see your Mother whenever U want. Just like the bold face lie that was told that Janet slapped Paris. Smh



The Jackson children,including Janet,kidnapped Katherine.They were gonna try to get her to sign over her share of MJ’s estate.They wrongly assumed that she was being deceived by those lawyers that MJ left in charge.It was a shameful plot by the Jacksons and I was disappointed at Janet for participating in that.

I know all the sorid details of what was "said" that happened. But still Katherine NEVER verified it. She ONLY said her nephew kidnapped her & stole money from her two years ago.



This is the statement she made about the fabrication of the other false kidnapping.



"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped and held against my will," she said in the prepared statement. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am fine.


"My children would never do a thing to me like that, holding me against my will. It's very stupid for people to think that," she said. "There's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out, and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense."




Katherine out of her own MOUTH.





That’s just damage control,trying to make it seem like everything is fine when we know it wasn’t.
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Reply #653 posted 02/12/19 4:05pm

ItsLetoyaBaby

alphastreet said:

Honesty is always appreciated even if it hurts. I feel they’re lying about abuse, but there was closeness at some point with these families

It hurts, it truly hurts. Right now that I have not watched the doc I think Wade and Jimmy are lying through their teeth although I am willing to give them a chance and watch it with an open mind. I am 100% sure MJ did not touch Gavin but then again no one actually believes he was molested. Even the "haters" abstain from talking about Gavin not to lose credibility and/or outright ignore his ass because they know that would damage the point they are trying to prove. As for Jordan I have my opinion and that is not going to change unless some earth shattering proof came along. Unfortunately, that is the big, yellow elefant in the room. Michael had the biggest fanbase, the most dedicated and passionate fans in the world by far, ready to go to war for him and he chose to make it as hard for them (us) as possible. Unfortunately too hard to for me and many others. I feel let down by Mike.

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Reply #654 posted 02/12/19 4:10pm

alphastreet

I felt a similar let down feeling selfishly when he died. I cared too much and he couldn’t take care of himself that he had to resort to propofol was angering to me. I was more mad than sad which came in doses because though he owes me nothing, at one point I was too obsessed and had to work through that, the root causes and now it’s admire level.
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Reply #655 posted 02/12/19 5:21pm

Free2BMe

ItsLetoyaBaby said:



alphastreet said:


Honesty is always appreciated even if it hurts. I feel they’re lying about abuse, but there was closeness at some point with these families

It hurts, it truly hurts. Right now that I have not watched the doc I think Wade and Jimmy are lying through their teeth although I am willing to give them a chance and watch it with an open mind. I am 100% sure MJ did not touch Gavin but then again no one actually believes he was molested. Even the "haters" abstain from talking about Gavin not to lose credibility and/or outright ignore his ass because they know that would damage the point they are trying to prove. As for Jordan I have my opinion and that is not going to change unless some earth shattering proof came along. Unfortunately, that is the big, yellow elefant in the room. Michael had the biggest fanbase, the most dedicated and passionate fans in the world by far, ready to go to war for him and he chose to make it as hard for them (us) as possible. Unfortunately too hard to for me and many others. I feel let down by Mike.




I’m sorry some of you are just not strong enough to be MJ fans. Maybe you just need to give up your fandom. I can tell you that my fandom hasn’t wavered in since the 1993 false allegations, and it will never waver. Thank God I am able to see a lie what it is. Thankfully, I followed the 1993 allegations and knew that Evan Chandler was the author of those sordid claims and not Jordan. Jordan went along with these later, but it was his father who planted the lies in his head. What father portrays his own son as the lover of his accused abuser. Evan worked hand in hand with a pedophile/NAMBLA enthusiast and accused his son of things that no parent would do. That is the very reason that true MJ fans are aware of the script
Robson and Safechuck are using. We have heard it before. The lies/script are the same.
Michael has not let us down, some of you have let HIM down, because even with all of the evidence against these extortionists-Chandler, Robson, and Safechuck- some of you are still gullible enough to have doubts about Michael’s innocence. I’m trying to understand why any sane person would believe a minute portion on ANYtning these people say. I could destroy either one of them in a courtroom, and that includes Jordan Chandler, Wade Robson or James Safechuck. Everything they have alleged can be proven to be a lie. Why do you think Evan Chandler didn’t file criminal charges? He like the other scam artists want their false claims to be tried in the media. They know that people are easily manipulated, weak-minded, gullibile and will believe these lies, because they WANT to believe it. That’s the bottomline, you can agree or disagree, it doesn’t matter. You can NOT be a Michael Jackson fan and be weak!
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Reply #656 posted 02/12/19 5:27pm

alphastreet

I feel that if a fan is having doubts, the kindest thing you can do is listen to where it’s coming from, rather than attacking the person. It’s unacceptable and bordering on bullying a bit for simply a different opinion. I truly think she is/wants to continue being a fan but is puzzled and/or conflicted over what’s happening right now.
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Reply #657 posted 02/12/19 5:49pm

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As for Michael Jackson I have been reading a lot of stuff in a website about him and I am now inclined to at least give the doc a chance. Someone said that we don't have to understand everything regarding MJ's behavior. I agree. But when it comes to sleeping with young boys one-on-one I believe I am entitled to ask some questions. If there are no answers for it on the positive side, one tends to stretch the neck and look at the other side. I've spent a lot of time and emotional baggage on MJ as a teenager and young adult as I was a HUGE fan. I'd hate to reach the conclusion that it was all for nothing, a waste. I'll watch the doc and make up my mind after watching it.

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Why does your AGENDA keep repeating the same lie? Why do you continue to say “boys” when it was also girls and moms? Is man/boy sex a sick fantasy or fetish of yours? Every one of these scam artists had their sisters and moms in the rooms with them. Of course, you know that. I guess it turns you on to think that it was only boys. Therin lies the problem, YOURS, not Michael’s. You should totally be“satisfied” by the script that Robson and Safechuck will repeat. It would have been great if Robson had sad this on the witness stand. The prosecutor even asked him, if it was possible that he could have been asleep when he was molested. Robson became angry and said” Something like that would have surely woke me up.” Damn straight it would have. Especially, the part about being butt raped everyday for 7 years with not even a trip to the police or hospital or even a nod to his mom. Sarcasm intended. 😏
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Reply #658 posted 02/12/19 8:30pm

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hmmm Michael Jackson Is Not Your #MeToo Minstrel https://reidunsaxerud.com...-minstrel/

As a good chunk of the world is aware, “Leaving Neverland” screened during the first week of the 2019 Sundance Film Festival. In it is nearly four hours’ worth of allegedly damning…testimony? Content? Guided by its two teary-eyed stars: Wade Robson and James Safechuck.

There’s already been much written about the documentary itself. HBO went against their better judgment and has scheduled to air in early March.

Unfortunately, much like many things in Jackson’s life, there is no one-size-fits-all, simple discussion of this matter. Because it centers around Jackson, there is no way to reduce the spectacle and sensationalism. Even in death, he is still larger-than-life: due to the content of the film, Sundance provided immediate on-site counseling for anyone traumatized, standing in the wings at the ready.

And, you know: I get it. True or not, a four-hour documentary that chronicles alleged sexual abuse reminds me a little too much of A Clockwork Orange-style aversion therapy for good ol’ chellovek Alex. It can be a lot to take. I had to take a break watching the recent Ted Bundy series on Netflix due to my own experience with malignant narcissists, previous abuse triggers, and the creative direction of the series. It was simply too much to handle at one time I wouldn’t have been able to sit through a full series binge either without assistance. But I had no warning and certainly no pre-emptive hand-holding at the ready.

So, sure, why not. Let’s just go ahead and signal to the audience in advance that what they are about to see is Weird and Very Bizarre, simply because it features Michael Jackson.

The Harvey Weinstein documentary did not, as I understand, have the same assistance immediately on-hand. Yeah, that guy. That Harvey Weinstein. Remember him? The top of this entire pyramid of rightfully angry sexual abuse victims coming forward and working to removing their abusers from power. That guy. Remember him?....................

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Reply #659 posted 02/12/19 9:14pm

Free2BMe

Goddess4Real said:

hmmm Michael Jackson Is Not Your #MeToo Minstrel https://reidunsaxerud.com...-minstrel/





As a good chunk of the world is aware, “Leaving Neverland” screened during the first week of the 2019 Sundance Film Festival. In it is nearly four hours’ worth of allegedly damning…testimony? Content? Guided by its two teary-eyed stars: Wade Robson and James Safechuck.


There’s already been much written about the documentary itself. HBO went against their better judgment and has scheduled to air in early March.


Unfortunately, much like many things in Jackson’s life, there is no one-size-fits-all, simple discussion of this matter. Because it centers around Jackson, there is no way to reduce the spectacle and sensationalism. Even in death, he is still larger-than-life: due to the content of the film, Sundance provided immediate on-site counseling for anyone traumatized, standing in the wings at the ready.


And, you know: I get it. True or not, a four-hour documentary that chronicles alleged sexual abuse reminds me a little too much of A Clockwork Orange-style aversion therapy for good ol’ chellovek Alex. It can be a lot to take. I had to take a break watching the recent Ted Bundy series on Netflix due to my own experience with malignant narcissists, previous abuse triggers, and the creative direction of the series. It was simply too much to handle at one time I wouldn’t have been able to sit through a full series binge either without assistance. But I had no warning and certainly no pre-emptive hand-holding at the ready.


So, sure, why not. Let’s just go ahead and signal to the audience in advance that what they are about to see is Weird and Very Bizarre, simply because it features Michael Jackson.



The Harvey Weinstein documentary did not, as I understand, have the same assistance immediately on-hand. Yeah, that guy. That Harvey Weinstein. Remember him? The top of this entire pyramid of rightfully angry sexual abuse victims coming forward and working to removing their abusers from power. That guy. Remember him?.....

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