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Billboard is such a clusterfuck what even is this? Hello orgers it’s been awhile 😛 anyways so the billboard charts are a ducking Joke mess ass trite. Since they’ve added streaming and YouTube what is even seen as a hit anymore? Songs on an album that debuts at number 1 could go into the top 10 and drop out of the charts by 3-5 weeks. Christmas songs are now all over the top 40? why? all the old Christmas songs you hear a 10000 times this time of year are now all over the charts this week. In the 80s the longest lasting song in the top 10 was hurts so good which lasted 16 weeks I believe. Now you have big songs staying in the top 10 for 20-30 weeks  shit like girls like you by whiteboy 5 has been there for like 20 weeks. And when you hear radio half the shit in the top 40 isn’t even played it’s mainly just the top 20. I remember when radio would actually play songs that were at like idk number 50 or 60. Now? psssh. And think of how many number 1 hits you would have each year from the 50s-80s. It wasn’t till the 90s when songs would do that shit where it’s number 1 for 10 or more weeks. I just don’t get why billboard works this way. If your entire album goes into the top 40 for just one week that’s not a hit. Now shit like Drakes mediocre album can get 13 songs in the top 20 😐 just doesn’t make any sense. Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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I dont really get Billboard at this point anymore I pretty stop looking at it about twenty years ago with any kind of "regularity" I used to be crazy with it say 1982-1989 but as Prince said once "When MTV came into the picture, and other media outlets it all changed" and I would have to agree that once it all went over to soundscan and all became week one, then the bottom fell out of sales of course and then it went digital and now that digital sales have basically topped off, digital never even came close to being a replacement to the CD. Then it all went to streaming now, then they factored in You Tube hits, and then other clicks and hits, various websites etc...and like you said you can now have your album chart without even releasing a single for a week or two and then falling off the map. I said this years ago of how MUSIC is not relevant now, and people freaked out and said "You cant say that, everyone has it on their phone etc etc..." That means nothing, on your phone is not the same relevance it once had, sorry to disagree with the way people consume it now, but it aint the same by any means and its value its even less. I can remember back when I had issue that BILBOARD weighed airplay almost entirely which i thought was unfair. Back in 1984 when BAND AID released "Do they know its christmas" the thing was selling millions but airplay was not that good, it actually gets played more now. So the song went number one or close to one everywhere but here where it didnt even crack the top ten, years later Billboard obviously changed its ways but now I have no clue what they are doing, which is why when I hear "Oh drake is doing Beatle type chart stuff" I am like get the F out of here, if you want to say he is one of the biggest in this form of media today that is fine, but as far as selling and being relevant where everyone knows you, a good percentage of the world cant name a Drake song, or a Cardi or Nicki Minaj song, they are media stars in the click generation. I swear one day soon BILLBOARD will track "albums you thought about buying" as a sale. Mark my words they will, when the sales drop even more. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I only listen to music (Pandora) when I'm cleaning house. I'm much happier without having to work so hard to find something new that's good enough to listen to, and I rarely get motivated to listen to the classics. I feel so free not having to devote so much time to it. Music is dead to me, and I will not be visiting its grave. I know a lot of orgers will think that is sad, but not everyone needs it. I also think if modern music is terrible to you (like it is to me), then there's little reason to focus on less significant things like Billboard and the percentage of people that know today's hits. It only causes extra frustration. It won't get any better since the majority of the people the industry wants to cater to want garbage. | |
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I thought I was the only one that listened to music while cleaning the house. | |
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The long version of Prince's "America" was always my go-to for that. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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I know we've talked about this sort of thing many times before but I always enjoy it. It's a fascinating subject for all the wrong reasons. Jill Scott, Janet Jackson, Tyrese, Blink-182 and Metallica. What do they all have in common? They're all artists at least a decade part their commercial peaks who have scored #1 albums on the Billboard 200 this decade yet were nowhere to be found on pop radio or were hardly promoted on streaming services if at all. With how just about anybody can land a #1 album today, you'd think that variety would reflect in the playlists but nope. | |
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That has been the most flawed entry and basically just looks like payola. | |
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I saw artists on Instagram thanking their fans for "______ hours streamed in 2018" | |
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Dayum. Billboard used to be my "go to" back in the day. Never missed an issue. As I've drifted further and further away from pop music I hardly recognize it anymore and don't quite know what to make of it. |
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MotownSubdivision said: I know we've talked about this sort of thing many times before but I always enjoy it. It's a fascinating subject for all the wrong reasons. Jill Scott, Janet Jackson, Tyrese, Blink-182 and Metallica. What do they all have in common? They're all artists at least a decade part their commercial peaks who have scored #1 albums on the Billboard 200 this decade yet were nowhere to be found on pop radio or were hardly promoted on streaming services if at all. With how just about anybody can land a #1 album today, you'd think that variety would reflect in the playlists but nope. I guess that's because they all became big in a time when people were still buying LPs/CDs so they have a loyal fanbase. Although I have to admit I don't know who Tyrese is. | |
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NorthC said: MotownSubdivision said: I know we've talked about this sort of thing many times before but I always enjoy it. It's a fascinating subject for all the wrong reasons. Jill Scott, Janet Jackson, Tyrese, Blink-182 and Metallica. What do they all have in common? They're all artists at least a decade part their commercial peaks who have scored #1 albums on the Billboard 200 this decade yet were nowhere to be found on pop radio or were hardly promoted on streaming services if at all. With how just about anybody can land a #1 album today, you'd think that variety would reflect in the playlists but nope. I guess that's because they all became big in a time when people were still buying LPs/CDs so they have a loyal fanbase. Although I have to admit I don't know who Tyrese is. He's the guy who's one of Vin Diesel's sidekicks in the Fast and Furious movies but he actually got his start as an R&B singer in the late 1990's. He's actually quite good as a singer, but he only gets airplay on adult urban radio since most R&B is just poppy hip-hop now. I noticed a huge change in the Billboard Hot 100 around 2010 when they started taking streaming into account, but it really changed a couple of years ago when Justin Bieber, Future, and a bunch of other rappers all started debuting multiple songs on the Hot 100 all in the same week. Sure, they had one song that was released to be a hit single that would debut in the top 10, but they would have two more songs in the top 20 followed by three more in the top 40 with four or five more further down the Hot 100 chart. The problem these days is that people can only buy singles on iTunes since most record stores have gone the way of drive-in movie theater, plus most people would rather stream music than pay for it. I checked out the most recent Hot 100 chart, and while I wasn't too surprised to see Mariah Carey in the top 10 with her iconic Christmas song (BTW, none of her songs on her current album have charted), I was surprised to see Andy Willams' "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" in the top 20, and Nat King Cole's "The Christmas Song" in the top 30. There's no way any of those old classics would have charted without streaming.  | |
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NorthC said: MotownSubdivision said: I know we've talked about this sort of thing many times before but I always enjoy it. It's a fascinating subject for all the wrong reasons. Jill Scott, Janet Jackson, Tyrese, Blink-182 and Metallica. What do they all have in common? They're all artists at least a decade part their commercial peaks who have scored #1 albums on the Billboard 200 this decade yet were nowhere to be found on pop radio or were hardly promoted on streaming services if at all. With how just about anybody can land a #1 album today, you'd think that variety would reflect in the playlists but nope. I guess that's because they all became big in a time when people were still buying LPs/CDs so they have a loyal fanbase. Although I have to admit I don't know who Tyrese is. | |
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