Too short or too thick?

u cant compare now and then

One of the worst so called artist I've ever wasted more than 3 seconds on.

luvsexy4all said:

the funny thing is,I can only name one song by Drake....that recent "Kiki,Do You Love Me?" song

Honestly: who's Drake??

TheFman said:

Honestly: who's Drake??

StrangeButTrue said:

Counterpoint: https://www.sohh.com/funk...ed-rapper/ . I know exactly one Drake song by name, personally. Can someone here name 10 of his apparent collection of top songs without Googling? They don't even need to be from this year. I agree with Flex that it's glorified karaoke written by what could fill a room worth of people. It's nice it seems to be effective. He doesn't seem to broken emotionally in his public persona, it's nice that broken/emotional people connect with him.

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Agreed 100%. Drake htting the top 10 so many times is deffo a quantity over quality kind of thing, with him just launching single after single from his double album. The year the Beatles had their 11 top 10 hits was 1964; among those top 10 songs are counted 'She Loves You', 'Please Please Me', 'Twist & Shout', 'Can't Buy Me Love', 'Love Me Do', 'A Hard Day's Night', and 'I Feel Fine'. All songs that are still played as classics on many radio stations. Time will tell if Drake's Scorpion singles will enjoy the same airplay on whatever platforms will be available for popular music 54 years from now in 2072 (!). Right now I can only name 'God's Plan', 'In My Feelings', and 'I'm Upset'

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I don't doubt that Drake's a big name in music right now, I don't doubt that he's influencing a great many up-and-coming R&B singers as well as rappers, and then there's a great many more who are not f***ing with Drake. Yes he's a very big deal, but it's pointless to draw parallels with the Beatles or MJ on criteria that touch upon statistics that had a very different meaning in the 60s or 80s than they do now.

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Thanks i needed that laugh.

StrangeButTrue said:

Counterpoint: https://www.sohh.com/funk...ed-rapper/ . I know exactly one Drake song by name, personally. Can someone here name 10 of his apparent collection of top songs without Googling? They don't even need to be from this year. I agree with Flex that it's glorified karaoke written by what could fill a room worth of people. It's nice it seems to be effective. He doesn't seem to broken emotionally in his public persona, it's nice that broken/emotional people connect with him.

To answer the bold, I can do that easily- probably without having to go back further than 2016. I agree- he's the Beatles of this era; this dude has been putting out more "hits" back to back to back for so long now that I've given up on waiting for him and his style to play out. Seriously, I can't remember the last time that Black radio (all formats of Black radio, including "old school" and "grown and sexy") didn't have at least 2 current Drake songs in their rotation.

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To the point of how ubiquitous this dude has become, Travis Scott's "Sicko Mode" is #1 on Billboard's R&B chart for next week (and by the way, I really like that song- it's grown on me alot). Drake's on half of the song yet doesn't get official billing on it, not even a "featuring Drake" credit.

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(in my Drake voice) Got 'em going back to back/took a break from work now it's back to that.

SoulAlive said:

the funny thing is,I can only name one song by Drake....that recent "Kiki,Do You Love Me?" song

You still haven't named one, as that's not the title!

The only thing I care to admit is that he is the biggest rapper Canada has ever seen.

He's really not though. No offence to Drake but his music isn't that ubiquitous, no new music is. The Beatles and Michael Jackson were everywhere, absolutely everywhere. I just have to not play him on Spotify and he barely ever crosses my path, he doesn't even get a chance to annoy me. There's an argument for Kanye maybe, cos he is everywhere, but less so his current music though...

StrangeButTrue said:

Counterpoint: https://www.sohh.com/funk...ed-rapper/ . I know exactly one Drake song by name, personally. Can someone here name 10 of his apparent collection of top songs without Googling? They don't even need to be from this year. I agree with Flex that it's glorified karaoke written by what could fill a room worth of people. It's nice it seems to be effective. He doesn't seem to broken emotionally in his public persona, it's nice that broken/emotional people connect with him.

I can name seven songs, but that's only because they were played to death on hip-hop radio.

Started From The Bottom

Hold On We're Going Home

Hotline Bling

One Dance

God's Plan

Nice For What

In My Feelings (that Keke song)

I'm sure there are numerous other tunes, but a lot of those hits are hip-hop collaborations with other artists that he was featured on. Also, in the era of Spotify it's actually easier to get multiple top ten and top 40 hits at once because an artist will release an album on Spotify and have one huge hit single debut at or near number one while the album tracks debut further down the cart during the first or second week.

Uh.......no!

StrangeButTrue said:

Counterpoint: https://www.sohh.com/funk...ed-rapper/ . I know exactly one Drake song by name, personally. Can someone here name 10 of his apparent collection of top songs without Googling? They don't even need to be from this year. I agree with Flex that it's glorified karaoke written by what could fill a room worth of people. It's nice it seems to be effective. He doesn't seem to broken emotionally in his public persona, it's nice that broken/emotional people connect with him.

Sure I can. Promise I'm not googling

Headlines

In My Feelings

Hotline Bling

Passionfruit

The Motto

Take Care

Marvin's Room

Controlla

One Dance

Fake Love

I'm not even a big fan of his, but he is a very popular artist.

scratch said:

Sway In The Morning Oct. 31, 2018

Short Dog may have a point when he says "right now." Is any act in piop music clearly bigger?

And it's hard for a lot of us to believe, but many of his younger/youngest fans will hold him in the same esteem the Boomers hold the Beatles and the GenX'ers hold MJ. And they'll be the ones writing music history eventually.

U cant compare, because to be honest, DRAKE sells nothing compared to those artists, he sells less than New Kids on the Block in their hey day. SO you cant compare, the same nonsense came up with Nicki Minaj having 100 chart entries, I cant tell you 5 of her songs, and most of the population cant. That is also the biggest example, streaming is not SELLING, its a huge difference now, because there are so many outlets you will have tons of people who will never ever hear a DRAKE song its that simple. Regardless of what TOO SHORT says, he has no clue. Look at someone like Becky G this girl is slowly becoming another Nicki Minaj, if you break down the songs she is appearing on AND the fact that she has the latin market, which is the biggest market base now, she actually is reaching more people than Nicki ever did.

namepeace said:

Short Dog may have a point when he says "right now." Is any act in piop music clearly bigger?

And it's hard for a lot of us to believe, but many of his younger/youngest fans will hold him in the same esteem the Boomers hold the Beatles and the GenX'ers hold MJ. And they'll be the ones writing music history eventually.

I'd say the difference is that the Beatles songs were known to people who were not fans, never owned anything of theirs nor were even in the age brackett when they were at their most popular. Same with MJ, his songs are known to people outside of his fanbase.

onlyforaminute said:

namepeace said:

Short Dog may have a point when he says "right now." Is any act in piop music clearly bigger?

And it's hard for a lot of us to believe, but many of his younger/youngest fans will hold him in the same esteem the Boomers hold the Beatles and the GenX'ers hold MJ. And they'll be the ones writing music history eventually.

I'd say the difference is that the Beatles songs were known to people who were not fans, never owned anything of theirs nor were even in the age brackett when they were at their most popular. Same with MJ, his songs are known to people outside of his fanbase.

Fair points.

onlyforaminute said:

namepeace said:

Short Dog may have a point when he says "right now." Is any act in piop music clearly bigger?

And it's hard for a lot of us to believe, but many of his younger/youngest fans will hold him in the same esteem the Boomers hold the Beatles and the GenX'ers hold MJ. And they'll be the ones writing music history eventually.

I'd say the difference is that the Beatles songs were known to people who were not fans, never owned anything of theirs nor were even in the age brackett when they were at their most popular. Same with MJ, his songs are known to people outside of his fanbase.

Exactly. Until we see Drake's catalog sales match in twenty years, safe to say there is no comparison.

Cinny said:

onlyforaminute said:

I'd say the difference is that the Beatles songs were known to people who were not fans, never owned anything of theirs nor were even in the age brackett when they were at their most popular. Same with MJ, his songs are known to people outside of his fanbase.

Exactly. Until we see Drake's catalog sales match in twenty years, safe to say there is no comparison.

That's fair, but I wasn't talking about sales or overall impact. I was talking about how Drake's generation(s) of fans will regard him. He will be their Beatles and their MJ, but not necessarily be considered a peer of the Beatles or MJ.

namepeace said:

Cinny said:

Exactly. Until we see Drake's catalog sales match in twenty years, safe to say there is no comparison.

That's fair, but I wasn't talking about sales or overall impact. I was talking about how Drake's generation(s) of fans will regard him. He will be their Beatles and their MJ, but not necessarily be considered a peer of the Beatles or MJ.

Maybe, but fans are fickle. In 20 or 30 years it's hard to say how they'll look back on some of these "icons" will they remember their work or the gossip about them? I'm just saying I'm noticing I know names of these people but it isn't their work that I'm knowing them by it's the tabloid stuff I'm associating with their names.