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Who Is/Was Aretha's MALE Counterpart? We all know Aretha was arguably the most influential woman in music history. She influenced both women and men alike, across so many genres. So that started me to thinking, what male singer had the same impact as Aretha?
[Edited 8/28/18 17:02pm] "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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I would say Donny Hathaway as far as soulfulness and influence. He left too soon, so not as large of a body of work but, yeah Donny | |
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David Ruffin | |
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I would be thinking in terms of range in notes and variety of emotiveness and sonic texturization, to say Sananda Maitreya, and I also agree about David Ruffin. | |
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Marvin Gaye Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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James Brown. Can't think of anyone else who had the same impact on music and black American society. | |
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I second Marvin. Ruffin was an awesome, one of a kind singer but his influence pales in comparison to Marvin's IMO. Shoot, David himself admitted he wished he could sing like Marvin. | |
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Al Green. | |
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Teddy Pendergrass, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2 | |
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Marvin. Or Stevie, although he was a songwriter and multi-instrumentalist as well as a singer. RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... | |
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Ray Charles? My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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Sadly, many people don't know who Donny Hathway is/was. He had an amazing voice, but his output was not enough to make him as influencial as say Stevie, Al, Marvin or James. | |
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Good suggestion. | |
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I second Stevie Wonder, for impact and influence. | |
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James Brown or Ray Charles should be the only ones eligible for consideration... | |
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If you consider voice and piano only; he's the one. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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I’d say Luther Vandross for voice alone. | |
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She is unparalleled. Imagine that. Queen of Soul? I am thinking Godfather of Soul, James Brown MAYBE as an equivalent. | |
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I'd thought about Luther for a second, too, but I can't imagine him grunting out a blues song. Haven't heard it, either. | |
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PRINCE he could sing any kind of music.Unlike most artist and Aretha is his counterpart whom she greatly acknowleged briefly two years ago when she heard of his passing."That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." | |
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Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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A bigger vote for Ray Charles for the 2 abovementioned values + styles. Still an hororable mention to Sananda Maitreya for vocal range. | |
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hard to say, as a singer myself, i believe that Males and females generally have different gifts as singers. Great females usually have much more control while males usually have more power. This isn't a truism, it's kind of like comparing different body types, they say they are only 3 but that no one is a pure type of any of them but a combination. So, when Myrna Smith said "Aretha Franklin could sing circles around Elvis" she wasn't dogging Elvis but she was being honest, Elvis had nowhere near the control of Aretha and neither did most male singers. I have the feeling that if the question was put to her she would say "Sam Cooke" mainly because of his background and their relationship, but I don't think he had the same control Aretha did either. In fact, the only male singer I can think of in the popular realm who could do things Aretha could do would be someone no one would think of, Terence Trent D'arby, he had great range, that elusive feminine like control, versatility, but even he wasn't as great, he sang off key a lot. Jackie Wilson was a great singer, Vandross was of course so there were a few but I don't think any particular one quite like her. If the question were female singers, there would be many who are in her league or maybe even better, Whitney, Labelle and others were about as good or better. I don't think any of them had the aura and carriage that Aretha did, she was a diva but it really fit her. She never came across to me as arrogant but matter of fact when speaking of her singing and influence. Whitney and Labelle don't have that same regality in my opinion.
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James Brown may have been the Godfather of Soul to counter Aretha's Queen of Soul title. He definately had a huge impact and influence on many when it came to stage presence. Lots of flash, whistles and bells. And a few of his songs were 60's anthems like some of Aretha's songs. But, vocally, he did not invoke the same feelings in people that Aretha did. Legions emulated Aretha. Many emulated James' funk music sound, but not his style of singing. I really can't think of anyone who purposely wanted to sound like James.
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Wayne Cochran did.
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That's a great way to describe Aretha's impact. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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using your standard, then i would have to say Luther Vandross... "when they hear Aretha sing, they hear God."... i DEFINITELY get that emotion when i hear Luther Vandross in his prime... Marvin Gaye too... | |
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James Brown | |
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