well,now that those "dark times" are long gone,give it another listen it really is a good album.If I had to choose my favorite 80s album by EW&F,it would either be this one or Raise. | |
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Love their contributions to Deniece Williams & The Emotions' albums the most, but I also love their work with Ramsey Lewis | |
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I would probably rank this as my 3rd favorite EWF album after Raise! and I Am. I have one question that I've been wondering about for like 30 years (can't believe it's been that long since it was released). Does anyone know who Skylark is? He/She/They are credited with writing System of Survival as well as additional background vocals. I remember a Video Soul interview at the time and Donnie Simpson flat-out asked Maurice if Skylark was really Prince. Maurice definitely said that it wasn't. | |
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as far as I know,Skylark is a real songwriter/producer....but yeah,he was really mysterious. Don’t know a lot about him. | |
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Interestingly,producer/artist Bobby Nunn submitted a track called “Rocket 2 U” which Maurice liked a lot and wanted to record it for the album.However,somehow MCA Records got a hold of the song first and wanted it for one of their groups...The Jets.It became a big hit for them. | |
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I think most of us would agree that 1973's Head To The Sky is one of their finest albums "Clover" is my favorite track
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I love EW&F! I saw them in August 2016 at the Borgata Casino in Atlantic City and they were INCREDIBLE! It’s the BEST concert I’ve ever attended. (Unfortunately, I never got to see Prince live.) Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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How many of you seen the 1975 movie That's The Way Of The World and what do you think of it?
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SoulAlive said: How many of you seen the 1975 movie That's The Way Of The World and what do you think of it?
Once. And that’s too many. I didn’t know that the album was supposed to be a soundtrack too until these recent years. | |
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SoulAlive said: How many of you seen the 1975 movie That's The Way Of The World and what do you think of it?
i have the movie...i watch the opening scene over and over again (them tuning their instruments and then recording the song "Thats The Way Of The World")...ive watched the whole flick a few times but now i just skip through most of the dialogue...i just watch the scenes that have EWF acting or performing...not even a young Harvey Keitel could save this awful movie...its still a masteriece to me because of my lifelong EW&F worship... | |
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yeah,the movie isn't very good at all.Such a shame that EW&F's brilliant songs weren't used effectively. | |
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The excellent "Wanna Be With You" was the second single from Raise.It's a wonderful song and it even won a Grammy,if I'm not mistaken. | |
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There early work is sooo underrated. Basically before That's the Way. PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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SoulAlive said: as far as I know,Skylark is a real songwriter/producer....but yeah,he was really mysterious. Don’t know a lot about him. I always wondered about Skylark too. I remember that Video Soul interview with Maurice too where he said he received the track out of nowhere. I know Larry Blackmon was one of the producers on board at the time but Maurice turned the Blackmon tracks down because they sounded too much like Cameo. I always wondered if Larry pulled a Prince here and went under the pseudonym Skylark. Some of Larry's best work outside of Cameo was on the two Ca$hflow albums. Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: There early work is sooo underrated. Basically before That's the Way. yeah,those early albums are incredible! | |
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1974's Open Our Eyes is one of EW&F's funkiest albums,containing electrifying funk jams like "Mighty Mighty" and "Tee Nine Chee Bit". | |
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Not a very original choice but this song speaks to my soul.
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Some of my favorite EWF cuts
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Earlier in this thread,I was saying that I wish the Faces album had more surprises,more instrumentals,more jazzy latin/Afro sounds.This song "Runnin",from the All N' All' album,is exactly what I'm talking about.This song is fiery and delicious! It's like a musical gumbo featruing all the essential ingredients.Gets me movin' everytime. | |
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phunkdaddy said: SoulAlive said: as far as I know,Skylark is a real songwriter/producer....but yeah,he was really mysterious. Don’t know a lot about him. I always wondered about Skylark too. I remember that Video Soul interview with Maurice too where he said he received the track out of nowhere. I know Larry Blackmon was one of the producers on board at the time but Maurice turned the Blackmon tracks down because they sounded too much like Cameo. I always wondered if Larry pulled a Prince here and went under the pseudonym Skylark. Some of Larry's best work outside of Cameo was on the two Ca$hflow albums. ive read somewhere that Skylark = Larry Blackmon... | |
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this is one of the best songs EVER | |
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I think the timeless quality of the music that Maurice and crew put out is that I have yet to hear one artist that has markedly improved on the original. Or, put a new, intersting spin on a classic.
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exactly | |
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One of my fave albums by them and I was jamming to it the other day lol! My faves are "My Love", "Lady Sun" and "Wanna be with you". Love EWF, my fave R&B band of all time. Other albums are Spirit, All n All, Gratitude, That's The Way of the World, all timeless and just fabulous! Love is God, God is love, girls and boys love God above~
The only Love there is, is the Love We Make~ Prince4Ever | |
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i enjoyed Raise, and it wasnt a bad album at all...i was just overwhelmed by the departure of Al McKay from the band, and the sudden shift in their sound that it caused...no more of his dynamic rhythm strumming and funky melodic picking giving Maurice's productions that distinct color...they started using synthesized basslines and basic pop melodies and diluted their trademark sound with cotemporary stylings...they never got their mojo back, after Raise and Powerlight...the stuff Al McKay produced with The Temptations ("Treat Her Like A Lady"), and Finis Henderson ("Skip To My Lou") right after he left the group, sounded more like Earth Wind & Fire, than Earth Wind & Fire did..Al McKay and Ernie Isley were two great guitarists who were overlooked in their importance to their bands' sound... my 3 favorite guitarists and musical influences, Prince, Al McKay and Ernie Isley... | |
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These days,whenever "Let's Groove" comes on the radio,it makes me smile.That song totally takes me back to a wonderful time,the fall of 1981.It's another one of those songs where Maurice sings the verses and Philip sings the chorus (like "September").....that proved to be a winning strategy for them.This song became an instant smash. | |
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EWF is my favorire group of all time, that being said. I hate,hate, hate the "I Am" Album. To me this where EWF sold out to the pop audience they were obivously aimming for. But, in doing so they lost a lot of fans who felt abandon. It's one of the things I always love and admire about Rick James, he never tried to sell to a "pop audience" if they came along fine, but he always kept it funky!! | |
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Thebigpill said: EWF is my favorire group of all time, that being said. I hate,hate, hate the "I Am" Album. To me this where EWF sold out to the pop audience they were obivously aimming for. But, in doing so they lost a lot of fans who felt abandon. It's one of the things I always love and admire about Rick James, he never tried to sell to a "pop audience" if they came along fine, but he always kept it funky!! I know that many longtime fans were disappointed with ‘I Am’ but I think it’s one of their strongest albums.They were expanding their sound,taking it to another level,which I don’t necessarily view as “selling out”.It still sounds like an EW&F album to me.All of the elements are there.The funk is still there.”After The Love Has Gone” is undeniably pop but on the same album,there is “You And I”,one of their most soulful slow jams. .. [Edited 4/2/18 17:36pm] | |
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"I Am" was the beginning of the end internally for EW&F because that was really the first lp that Maurice brought in outside help to write, produce and play on the core songs of the album, since the Great Charles Stepney died ... David Foster, Jay Graydon, and Alee Willis co-writing and producing most of the songs on that album pissed of cats like Phillip Bailey, Larry Dunn and Al McKay who were used to helping Maurice build the sound..those cats felt like the group didnt need any help, especially from white, pop-song writers...that said, that was a great album..."Cant Let Go" and "You And I" are 2 of the greatest EW&F songs ever.... | |
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Yeah,Maurice spoke about this in his book....how some members didn’t like the idea of using outside songwriters/producers on the album.But it’s hard to argue against Maurice’s judgment...that album was huge! First two singles made it into the pop Top 10 at a time when (mostly) disco artists were dominating the charts.Maurice knew what he was doing. | |
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