paisleypark4 said:

She only 30 so she got a good couple mo hits agreed. Anti is finally a good cohesive project with lots of her own personality in it...somewhat like Beyonce's last three albums. i think artists get better as they mature and reach into their 30s and 40s

You're right.

The challenge for female artists is that they are often considered 'over the hill" once 40 draws close, even when they're peaking creatively. Rih Rih might be an exception, like Bey

namepeace said:

paisleypark4 said:

namepeace said:

You're right.

The challenge for female artists is that they are often considered 'over the hill" once 40 draws close, even when they're peaking creatively. Rih Rih might be an exception, like Bey

Its sexism it will def happen to both of them too. They did it to Madonna even when Music came out

Something is happening that is allowing for only Rihanna and Beyonce, both black, to be considered legends of this generation.

paisleypark4 said:

She only 30 so she got a good couple mo hits agreed. Anti is finally a good cohesive project with lots of her own personality in it...somewhat like Beyonce's last three albums. i think artists get better as they mature and reach into their 30s and 40s

Indeed.

mnbvc said:

paisleypark4 said:

namepeace said: Its sexism it will def happen to both of them too. They did it to Madonna even when Music came out

Something is happening that is allowing for only Rihanna and Beyonce, both black, to be considered legends of this generation.

There are no white female acts who can fill Madge's shoes.

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tump said:

Vivendi ( owners of Universal Music Group, parent company of Def Jam, Rihanna's label) have deals with Verizon going back many years. Huffpost is owned by Verizon. Rihanna will be promoted as long as she is making more money for her masters than she will ever see. Like all pop artists. Heaven help her if she starts to want to wake the masses or go independent. This article is typical of presstitutes (as Gerald Celente would call them). Everything is as it should be in the corporate media.

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namepeace said:

Curtwill1975 said:

namepeace said:

There it is.

This is not about the merits of Rihanna as an artist. This is about her track record. Last year, she became only the third act to have thirty (30) top 10 tracks on Billboard's pop charts. Madge and the Beatles are the other two. She's had consistent success in the post-album era.

Plus, her legacy doesn't have to be relevant to EVERY generation of audiences for it to be a legacy all the same. She of course had advantages -- and disadvantages -- that that earlier artists did not have. But she's among the elite acts (as opposed to elite artists) of her generation, her generation will in all likelihood revere her for it, and the Xers and Boomers cannot stop that.

Let's not go "Old Man Yells At Cloud" over this.

Great post. There's this tendency for older generation fans of entertainers to dismiss young entertainers who have had the success that Rihanna has had because she's not of the their generation and therefore is without their approval, she's nothing to them. The good thing is that Rihanna isn't dependent on this demographic to define her legacy. That's a good look for her. At the least, she's an icon of 21st century commercial entertainment and going forward, everything that she does in that realm is something that is supported by a much stronger foundation than earlier in her career. [Edited 1/18/18 15:39pm] [Edited 1/18/18 15:41pm]

Thanks for the kind words.

The music industry is a money-making machine. They will eat you up and spit you out. Once they use you up and are done with you -- out you go!!

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All these silly labels they put on artist's today is ridiculous! It's like they make up new awards, just to have more money rolling-in. I don't listen to the radio because I don't care to hear the same song 50x per day and I stopped watching award shows, because it's a joke.

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It's not about older people not liking Rihanna. I'm sure she has a lot of older fans as well as young. Rihanna is a product, and at the end of the day, that is all she is to record executives.

Her music is not rememorable like Madonna, Michael, Whitney, Phil etc. Producing a bunch of hits doesnt mean anything when your music doesn't stand the test time or have quality, in fact I beleive Taylor has surpass Madonna and Rhianna with the most hits on billboard. We now have Cardi B who's broken several records and Nicki Minaj who broke Aretha Franklin Billboard record which took decades for Franklin thanks the rule changes. So it doesnt matter how many hits these new artist produce that doesnt make them special. Like I said in another thread she has no great album, no talent, her album and tour sales are average.

cloveringold85 said:

Curtwill1975 said:

cloveringold85 said:

The music industry is a money-making machine. They will eat you up and spit you out. Once they use you up and are done with you -- out you go!!

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All these silly labels they put on artist's today is ridiculous! It's like they make up new awards, just to have more money rolling-in. I don't listen to the radio because I don't care to hear the same song 50x per day and I stopped watching award shows, because it's a joke.

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It's not about older people not liking Rihanna. I'm sure she has a lot of older fans as well as young. Rihanna is a product, and at the end of the day, that is all she is to record executives.

So explain how and why Rihanna has lasted as long as she has? All pop stars are products or rather brands but brands can have longevity and Rihanna has shown she has it. That goes beyond what anyone thinks of her career and music.i can't believe that I am defending her in here.

I would say the ultimate example of product is Britney Spears. But her downfall had nothing to do with her lack of true music talent. In 2000, 2001 up until the spring of 2002, she was exactly where Beyonce has been for the last decade with the media.

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That's why it's a joke when people say Justin Timberlake went from NSYNC to superstardom. The music video about is ex-girlfriend is what started his solo career, not his own talent. That's what got him serious attention, the video not the song. Because Britney Spears was so hated at that time, a music video 'shaming' her got him big credibility with most people.

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NSYNC was nowhere by the end of the summer 2001. He didn't make it on his own.

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