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Thread started 04/16/03 5:37am

IceNine

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Why do most modern R&B singers sound like they are whining most of the time?

There is a guy here at work listening to some generic new R&B guy and I must say that every single song sounds like he is just whining. It is painfully annoying.

What happened to music like Marvin Gaye, Al Green, James Brown and good music like that? These new guys just seem to whine.

It is annoying me.
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Reply #1 posted 04/16/03 5:39am

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Not sure about the whining per se, but during any modern period most artists are a bunch of band-wagon jumpers.
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #2 posted 04/16/03 5:40am

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whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.
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Reply #3 posted 04/16/03 5:41am

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AaronSuperior said:

whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.
Whoa...I think Aaron nailed it. :O
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Reply #4 posted 04/16/03 5:43am

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AaronSuperior said:

whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.


Good point... maybe they should just skip it. I fucking hate that whiny shit... maybe they should yell like the hard rockers... you know, anger instead of whining pussy shit.

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Reply #5 posted 04/16/03 5:45am

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IceNine said:

AaronSuperior said:

whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.


Good point... maybe they should just skip it. I fucking hate that whiny shit... maybe they should yell like the hard rockers... you know, anger instead of whining pussy shit.

biggrin



i think they should give it up too. if you're a good technical singer, be that. if you're good at expressing emotion in your voice, but can't hit the high notes or whatever, be that. if you can do both, then by all means do it. but if not, just stick to what you know. that means you Mariah Carey... biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 04/16/03 5:45am

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or a new marketing sceem: "new cd, including free prozac!"
now at your local dealer
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Reply #7 posted 04/16/03 5:45am

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i know EXACTLY what you mean... it always cracks me up... put 'em out of their misery, i say smile
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Reply #8 posted 04/16/03 5:47am

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IceNine said:

AaronSuperior said:

whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.


Good point... maybe they should just skip it. I fucking hate that whiny shit... maybe they should yell like the hard rockers... you know, anger instead of whining pussy shit.

biggrin

What's the "fake" equivalent of angry yelling?
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Reply #9 posted 04/16/03 5:48am

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Watch this, I am going to say something nice about Prince:

Prince is technically an R&B singer... he is a great singer and doesn't whine like a fucking idiot. I truly respect his talent.
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Reply #10 posted 04/16/03 5:48am

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teller said:

IceNine said:

AaronSuperior said:

whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.


Good point... maybe they should just skip it. I fucking hate that whiny shit... maybe they should yell like the hard rockers... you know, anger instead of whining pussy shit.

biggrin

What's the "fake" equivalent of angry yelling?


Being a whiny pussy?

shrug
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Reply #11 posted 04/16/03 5:49am

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MrBliss said:

i know EXACTLY what you mean... it always cracks me up... put 'em out of their misery, i say smile


REVEREND!!!
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Reply #12 posted 04/16/03 5:49am

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IceNine said:

teller said:

What's the "fake" equivalent of angry yelling?


Being a whiny pussy?

shrug

No really...some of these "hard" rockers just aren't very convincing...I suspect they're not really angry. hmm
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Reply #13 posted 04/16/03 5:51am

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teller said:

IceNine said:

teller said:

What's the "fake" equivalent of angry yelling?


Being a whiny pussy?

shrug

No really...some of these "hard" rockers just aren't very convincing...I suspect they're not really angry. hmm


Those fuckers!!!

That is not even cool of them... you MUST be pissed off when truly rocking out!
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Reply #14 posted 04/16/03 5:51am

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teller said:

IceNine said:

AaronSuperior said:

whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.


Good point... maybe they should just skip it. I fucking hate that whiny shit... maybe they should yell like the hard rockers... you know, anger instead of whining pussy shit.

biggrin

What's the "fake" equivalent of angry yelling?



Linkin Park, Limp Bizkut... etc.
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Reply #15 posted 04/16/03 5:53am

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AaronSuperior said:

teller said:

IceNine said:

AaronSuperior said:

whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.


Good point... maybe they should just skip it. I fucking hate that whiny shit... maybe they should yell like the hard rockers... you know, anger instead of whining pussy shit.

biggrin

What's the "fake" equivalent of angry yelling?



Linkin Park, Limp Bizkut... etc.


Oh, how I hate all that shit!

Those guys all suck really bad.
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Reply #16 posted 04/16/03 6:06am

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IceNine said:

AaronSuperior said:

teller said:

IceNine said:

AaronSuperior said:

whining is the easiest way to express some sort of emotion in music, through the voice. even if it's not whining, per se, that's how it sounds to the ear.

there aren't enough people that are talented enough to infuse their vocals with real emotions, so they settle on this one to make it sound as if they can.


Good point... maybe they should just skip it. I fucking hate that whiny shit... maybe they should yell like the hard rockers... you know, anger instead of whining pussy shit.

biggrin

What's the "fake" equivalent of angry yelling?



Linkin Park, Limp Bizkut... etc.


Oh, how I hate all that shit!

Those guys all suck really bad.



and they all sound the same. even worse are the 20 or so bands that all sound like Creed that are all over the radio now.

i don't understand what all the screamers are angry about, and why all these other dudes are so fucking serious about. jesus, lighten the fuck up. makes me long for 1999 when the music was shit (BSB, Nsync, Britney), but at least the shit had some personality biggrin
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Reply #17 posted 04/16/03 6:32am

LaVisHh

IceNine said:

Watch this, I am going to say something nice about Prince:

Prince is technically an R&B singer... he is a great singer and doesn't whine like a fucking idiot. I truly respect his talent.


Ahhh... so THIS is where she got it. lol

Good work, AzureStar biggrin
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Reply #18 posted 04/16/03 6:54am

DigitalLisa

Why do most rock guys sound like they're mumbling I swear I can't understand a thing mick jager says
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Reply #19 posted 04/16/03 6:55am

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DigitalLisa said:

Why do most rock guys sound like they're mumbling I swear I can't understand a thing mick jager says


That would be because he is 98 years old and on downers.
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Reply #20 posted 04/16/03 6:56am

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It started when kids were encouraged to sing from the sinuses instead of from the gut, and it continued when people started mistaking talent for the simple ability to pack as many notes into each second of singing as (in)humanly possible.
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Reply #21 posted 04/16/03 6:58am

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Anxiety said:

It started when kids were encouraged to sing from the sinuses instead of from the gut, and it continued when people started mistaking talent for the simple ability to pack as many notes into each second of singing as (in)humanly possible.


True... there is no real melody to the tuneless warbling of these shitty R&B singers... they are simply whining.

Can these people not hold a single note? Is it really necessary for every word to span at least 5 notes moving up and down and for these five notes to be repeated at least 10 times per word?

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Reply #22 posted 04/16/03 7:04am

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IceNine said:

Anxiety said:

It started when kids were encouraged to sing from the sinuses instead of from the gut, and it continued when people started mistaking talent for the simple ability to pack as many notes into each second of singing as (in)humanly possible.


True... there is no real melody to the tuneless warbling of these shitty R&B singers... they are simply whining.

Can these people not hold a single note? Is it really necessary for every word to span at least 5 notes moving up and down and for these five notes to be repeated at least 10 times per word?

barf
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please who understood what kirk colbain was saying
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Reply #23 posted 04/16/03 7:05am

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DigitalLisa said:

IceNine said:

Anxiety said:

It started when kids were encouraged to sing from the sinuses instead of from the gut, and it continued when people started mistaking talent for the simple ability to pack as many notes into each second of singing as (in)humanly possible.


True... there is no real melody to the tuneless warbling of these shitty R&B singers... they are simply whining.

Can these people not hold a single note? Is it really necessary for every word to span at least 5 notes moving up and down and for these five notes to be repeated at least 10 times per word?

barf
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please who understood what kirk colbain was saying


I did... other than on "Smells Like Teen Spirit," where he was totally incomprehensible.
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Reply #24 posted 04/16/03 7:19am

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What's even worse than the whining, are the lyrics that they are *singing*

You could practically write an R&B song in like 5 minutes. Just pick from a stock collection of standard R&B phrases like:

"baby, baby please"

"girl you know you did me wrong"

"lets do it all night"

...and many more.

Viola`! not only are you an R&B singer, but now you're also a songwriter!
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IceNine said:

True... there is no real melody to the tuneless warbling of these shitty R&B singers... they are simply whining.

Can these people not hold a single note? Is it really necessary for every word to span at least 5 notes moving up and down and for these five notes to be repeated at least 10 times per word?

barf
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:LOL:

So true...I especially dislike how they bastardize the national anthem with all these extra notes! mad

And hitting dolphin-level high notes isn't the answer either...
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Reply #26 posted 04/16/03 7:23am

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teller said:

IceNine said:

True... there is no real melody to the tuneless warbling of these shitty R&B singers... they are simply whining.

Can these people not hold a single note? Is it really necessary for every word to span at least 5 notes moving up and down and for these five notes to be repeated at least 10 times per word?

barf
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:LOL:

So true...I especially dislike how they bastardize the national anthem with all these extra notes! mad

And hitting dolphin-level high notes isn't the answer either...


You have hit upon a sore spot... the national anthem... what the fuck is up with the bullshit that they do to that one? GODDAMN!
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teller said:

IceNine said:

True... there is no real melody to the tuneless warbling of these shitty R&B singers... they are simply whining.

Can these people not hold a single note? Is it really necessary for every word to span at least 5 notes moving up and down and for these five notes to be repeated at least 10 times per word?

barf
R&B

:LOL:

So true...I especially dislike how they bastardize the national anthem with all these extra notes! mad

And hitting dolphin-level high notes isn't the answer either...


Oh god, every time I see Mariah Carey do that, and she starts plucking imaginary things out of the air with her fingers, I wanna blow her head off with a shotgun.
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Tom said:

Oh god, every time I see Mariah Carey do that, and she starts plucking imaginary things out of the air with her fingers, I wanna blow her head off with a shotgun.

Damn straight! mad
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Reply #29 posted 04/16/03 7:27am

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Tom said:

Oh god, every time I see Mariah Carey do that, and she starts plucking imaginary things out of the air with her fingers, I wanna blow her head off with a shotgun.

Damn straight! mad


How ironic!!!

As soon as I saw this thread I thought of how Mariah Carey's singing drives me to the point of insanity! If I were to listen to an entire song of hers... I just might go nuts

For some reason, when she does the voice fluctuations... omfg My brain cringes. I actually FEEL it!

disbelief

She is worst than Babs if you ask me... rolleyes
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