DaveT said:

Every artist "borrows" from the ones who went before. Prince did, so how can you be mad at Gambino for doing the same? Redbone is a great track from a great album. I'll take that a million times over some of the other shite clogging up the pop charts right now!

Exactly, quality like this competing with hordes of 17 year old rappers singing about abusing drugs and fucking bitches and various skanky female singers, singing about have their pussies eaten. The charts are full o immoral crap, at least this approaches real music. It also helps that Gambino is 34 not 17 or 21.

SoulAlive said:

Dancelot said:

on the other hand you enjoy Mayer Hawthorne, Tuxedo and Jamiroquai?! elaborate

I wouild argue that Jamiroquai takes their 70s influences (Roy Ayers,Chic,etc) and still manage to come up with their own sound and style Same with Mayer Hawthorne.Childish Gambino sounds like Macy Gray singing an old P-Funk song,lol.

that's debatable. do you find anything on Jamiroquai albums you haven't heard somewhere else before? even when they incorporate newer and more modern sounds those are not original new inventions

even more so with Mayer Hawthorne. I love his output to death, but basically everything is a carbon copy, a faksimile of songs that have been heard before. you could hide almost every song (at least from his two first albums) on some 60s or 70s album or playlist and no one would notice. and basically all Tuxedo songs would fit 100% on lets say an old Streetsounds collection from the 80ees.

can you say the same about Awaken Ma Love? I doubt that the songs on it would slip through unnoticed on some P-Funk sampler or playlist. so in short, I hear more of an own identy in Childish Gambino. having said that, for the time I still llike Mayer Hawthorne more based on his eintire cataloge and versatility

DaveT said:

Every artist "borrows" from the ones who went before. Prince did, so how can you be mad at Gambino for doing the same? Redbone is a great track from a great album. I'll take that a million times over some of the other shite clogging up the pop charts right now!

I suppose because there's borrowing and there's direct lifts. Prince rarely directly lifted tracks and usually did something very different with the track when he did take something directly (think of how Stare pretty much lifts the bass intro from Hair by Graham Central Station but then goes in a different direction completely) . This is just a rewrite of the Bootsy track - same vibe and very similar arrangement and chord progressions. I'll tell you what, in 20 years we'll still be listening to Bootsy and this track will have disappeared. Same thing can be said for Have Some Love which is just a rewrite of Can You Get to That.

Adorecream said:

Exactly, quality like this competing with hordes of 17 year old rappers singing about abusing drugs and fucking bitches and various skanky female singers, singing about have their pussies eaten. The charts are full o immoral crap, at least this approaches real music. It also helps that Gambino is 34 not 17 or 21.

ummm, when did you last actually listen to rap music? Most of it is just lads singing about feeling sad these days.

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Adorecream said:

DaveT said:

Every artist "borrows" from the ones who went before. Prince did, so how can you be mad at Gambino for doing the same? Redbone is a great track from a great album. I'll take that a million times over some of the other shite clogging up the pop charts right now!

Exactly, quality like this competing with hordes of 17 year old rappers singing about abusing drugs and fucking bitches and various skanky female singers, singing about have their pussies eaten. The charts are full o immoral crap, at least this approaches real music. It also helps that Gambino is 34 not 17 or 21.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Graycap23 said:

It would be no different if Sly Stone put out a record that sounded like If I Were Your Girlfriend in 87. No ome would care no mlre because it's not 1971 any more and Sly's time had passed. That's just the way thw world turns.

"He ain't doing nothing but reworking 'If You Want Me To Stay'!" -- fictional Sly Stone, circa 1987, listening to "If I Was Your Girlfriend" for the first time.

(and he would have had a point.)

jaawwnn said:

DaveT said:

Every artist "borrows" from the ones who went before. Prince did, so how can you be mad at Gambino for doing the same? Redbone is a great track from a great album. I'll take that a million times over some of the other shite clogging up the pop charts right now!

I suppose because there's borrowing and there's direct lifts. Prince rarely directly lifted tracks and usually did something very different with the track when he did take something directly (think of how Stare pretty much lifts the bass intro from Hair by Graham Central Station but then goes in a different direction completely) . This is just a rewrite of the Bootsy track - same vibe and very similar arrangement and chord progressions. I'll tell you what, in 20 years we'll still be listening to Bootsy and this track will have disappeared. Same thing can be said for Have Some Love which is just a rewrite of Can You Get to That.

Adorecream said:

Exactly, quality like this competing with hordes of 17 year old rappers singing about abusing drugs and fucking bitches and various skanky female singers, singing about have their pussies eaten. The charts are full o immoral crap, at least this approaches real music. It also helps that Gambino is 34 not 17 or 21.

ummm, when did you last actually listen to rap music? Most of it is just lads singing about feeling sad these days.

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Check the charts - crap like Lil Pump, Kodak Blac, Migo, Katy Perry, Iggy Azalea, Rhianna, all these rap one hit wonders - commercial rap today is the cheapest made and poorest written music. It requires NO TALENT at all, they could train gibbons and gorillas to grunt to a drum machine beat and it would make more sense than half of these shit hoppers.

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Gambino had real music, great soul singing, melody, guitar solos and cool as heck vocals.

Adorecream said:

Gambino had real music, great soul singing, melody, guitar solos and cool as heck vocals.

Gambino is a rapper though, or haven't you heard his records before this one?

Have you reached the gift of literacy yet. I said in an earlier post, he was a rapper, and I know he has two other records, Camp and Because the Internet. They are more nerd rap than the shitty trap rap and rap dance music that suffociating the charts.

Its nice that the celebrity kids can be so artistic and exploratory because if it fails they can just go back to daddy's second ranch and hide for a few months.

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Prince, MJ, and Madonna in 2017 is Donald Glover, Jaden Smith, and Miley Cyrus. Kinda hilarious, didn't work well for Wilson Phillips, Lisa Marie Presley, David Cassidy's kids, etc. but hey they got that family money and those established connections.

Adorecream said:

Have you reached the gift of literacy yet. I said in an earlier post, he was a rapper, and I know he has two other records, Camp and Because the Internet. They are more nerd rap than the shitty trap rap and rap dance music that suffociating the charts.

Says the person who said Marky Mark had 1 album.

StrangeButTrue said:

Its nice that the celebrity kids can be so artistic and exploratory because if it fails they can just go back to daddy's second ranch and hide for a few months.

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Prince, MJ, and Madonna in 2017 is Donald Glover, Jaden Smith, and Miley Cyrus.

What celebrity is Childish Gamino's parent?

I thought he was related to Billy Dee Williams but apparently his dad was a postal worker my b. I need to watch more gossip programs.

StrangeButTrue said:

I thought he was related to Billy Dee Williams but apparently his dad was a postal worker my b. I need to watch more gossip programs.

Glover is going to play a young Lando Calrissian in an upcoming Star Wars movie, maybe that's what you heard.

StrangeButTrue said:

Yes and Simba in the new Lion King. Is he Disney's first real rap star?

The Fresh Prince is going to be in the live action Aladdin. He was around long before Gambino. Glover was first known by the public acting in the sitcom Community before being known as a rapper. That's where I first saw him. So I would consider him more like Don Johnson & Eddie Murphy, an actor who did music on the side.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

He also does Stand Up comedy too.

Eddie Murphy again. Bill Cosby also released music records in the 1970s. Bill & Eddie had animated TV shows too. Fat Albert & The PJs. I don't think Gambino has done that yet.

MickyDolenz said:

Adorecream said:

Have you reached the gift of literacy yet. I said in an earlier post, he was a rapper, and I know he has two other records, Camp and Because the Internet. They are more nerd rap than the shitty trap rap and rap dance music that suffociating the charts.

Says the person who said Marky Mark had 1 album.

I didn't read all of that thread, and you returned the favour by not reading all of my posts on this thread, so that makes us even.

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

He also does Stand Up comedy too.

Eddie Murphy again. Bill Cosby also released music records in the 1970s. Bill & Eddie had animated TV shows too. Fat Albert & The PJs. I don't think Gambino has done that yet.

‘Deadpool’ Animated Series Co-Created by Donald Glover Lands at FXX

http://variety.com/2017/t...202421886/

MickyDolenz said:

Adorecream said:

I like Donald Glover, as an actor, but Childish Gambino is his worst roll ever. In my OPINION, of course...