laurarichardson said:

Dasein said:

I don't see it that way. There isn't much from his most recent offerings that suggests Miguel is
appealing to the very same artistic sensibilities or topics other R&B lotharios are. For example:
his new album is grounded politically; when's the last time we said that about Usher, or Chris
Brown, or Jason Derulo, or Bruno Mars?

The Org doesn't like Miguel because he would dare place himself and present himself as a kind of
heir apparent to Prince. Yet, Miguel should not be criticized for his aspiration and inspiration and
I am glad he's making music, even though I am not a fan. Someone needs to counter what is
so staid in Black American pop music!

We are talking about the music not the lyrics. You are not going to get people to hear the lyrics if the music sucks or just sounds like everyone else's stuff. Look at the liner notes. He has a cast of thousands working on this CD and the music is dreadful.

He could have kept the music from the first CD and had polictical lyrics. Now he sounds like everybody else on RnB radio. This is going to bomb.

So can you point out how Miguel's music is "dreadful" and why having co-writers reflects the same?
Please tell us just how you arrived at the conclusion that his "music sucks or just sounds like every-
one else's stuf." I'm curious as to what standard of songwriting and music composition you are ap-
pealing to in making these assertions.

If I recall correctly, Prince had songwriters' contribute to his process and actually would actively
seek to diminish the roles bandmembers played in composition, so let's not view music composi-
tion through a lens that having co-writers and co-producers necessarily reflects the quality of your
music.

Otherwise, I simply don't like his music for reasons already enumerated. But, I'm not gonna kill
the guy for wanting to emulate, imitate, or appeal to Prince. You guys are haters and gleefully so.

Dasein said:

laurarichardson said:

We are talking about the music not the lyrics. You are not going to get people to hear the lyrics if the music sucks or just sounds like everyone else's stuff. Look at the liner notes. He has a cast of thousands working on this CD and the music is dreadful.

He could have kept the music from the first CD and had polictical lyrics. Now he sounds like everybody else on RnB radio. This is going to bomb.

So can you point out how Miguel's music is "dreadful" and why having co-writers reflects the same?
Please tell us just how you arrived at the conclusion that his "music sucks or just sounds like every-
one else's stuf." I'm curious as to what standard of songwriting and music composition you are ap-
pealing to in making these assertions.

If I recall correctly, Prince had songwriters' contribute to his process and actually would actively
seek to diminish the roles bandmembers played in composition, so let's not view music composi-
tion through a lens that having co-writers and co-producers necessarily reflects the quality of your
music.

Otherwise, I simply don't like his music for reasons already enumerated. But, I'm not gonna kill
the guy for wanting to emulate, imitate, or appeal to Prince. You guys are haters and gleefully so.

I love you Dasein.

Dasein said:

—In my opinion this album sucks. The last album sucked and was a total bomb. Prince had a few collaborators but the bulk of the material was all him not sure what your point is.