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Reply #30 posted 04/15/03 2:09pm

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INSATIABLE said:

God, it's so nice to hear Bilal, Lucy Pearl's "Dance Tonight" (LOVED the Love and Basketball soundtrack), D'Angelo (though he doesn't count) and of course Meshell being mentioned.heart


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Reply #31 posted 04/15/03 2:21pm

chickengrease

My list:

2000

Outkast - Stankonia
Coldplay - Parachutes
D'Angelo - Voodoo
Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun
Common - Like Water For Chocolate
Lewis Taylor - II


2001

Bilal - First Born Second
Nikka Costa - Everybody's Got Their Something
Macy Gray - The ID
Prince - The Rainbown Children


2002

MeShell Ndegeocello - Cookie
The Roots - Phrenology
Common - Electric Circus
Lewis Taylor - Stoned Pt. 1
Jazzy Jeff - The Magnificent
Tweet - Southern Hummingbird


2003 so far

Thicke - A Beautiful World
RH Factor - Hard Groove
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Reply #32 posted 04/15/03 2:30pm

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intha916 said:[quote]

intha916 said:

When I think of songs from the 60's, I think:

My Girl, I Feel Good, Grapevine, Respect, etc


When you think of songs from the 70's, I think:

Staying Alive, Superstition, Yesterday,What's Going On, etc

Are you talking about the Beatles' "Yesterday"?

I don't think some of you get it. The songs I meantion above aren't my favorites of the period but rather songs that helped define the period. I love TRC but 20 years from now most people won't think TRC when they think of the 00's. I have a few I think might:

"Ms. Jackson" Outkast
"Country Grammer" Nelly
"Fallen" Alicia Keys
"Stan" Emenim
"In Da Club" 50 Cent
"Hizzo" Jay-Z
"Rock The Boat" Aaliyah

You can look at it in different ways though. You're talking about hit singles (i.e. radio saturation) in that instance. Here's another example: when many people remember the year 1977, or the late 70s in general (sans disco) they think of the Sex Pistols first and only album they released as a group. They didn't have any hit singles that were as popular as the ones you named, yet that doesn't prevent many from remembering "God Save The Queen" or their album. The music that some people remember is what they personally connect to, regardless of its lack of impact on the radio. And radio by itself doesn't make something a classic. Tina Turner's "River Deep Mountain High" was never a big hit in the USA, but it's widely regarded as a classic in the USA - and deservedly so. There are those who consider Shuggie's Inspiration Information as an early 70s classic - yet it didn't dominate the airwaves either.
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Reply #33 posted 04/15/03 2:34pm

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I'll agree with Voodoo and Outcast, altho they'll never b classics. Most others mentioned just don't cut it, certainly not in the mainstream-classic kinda way. 'Fallen' will prolly survive. Eminems Marshall Matters (was this 2000?). Beck Sea Change. Robbie Williams Angels. Could come up with some more 'big hits', but classics??? Btw, there r 2 many popular genres these days, almost no one has cross over appeal.
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Reply #34 posted 04/15/03 2:46pm

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rdhull said:

mistermaxxx said:

rdhull said:

mistermaxxx said:

Duh R.Kelly "Chocolate Factory"/"Loveland" the Best Music&Artist of the 00's In a Breeze IMHO.nobody can touch "DA Kang of Modern R&B" aka the Pied Piper of R&B.

you like R Kelly? Since when?!
If Not for Our Past History I Might digify that Re-Mark but due to the Undertones&knowing the Loaded Element that comes along with it&You knew that some folks like re-sparkling a Feud I'm not gonna Say When.Ask Essence how long?

I know man, I jus fuckin around, dang.
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Reply #35 posted 04/15/03 2:48pm

Moonbeam

Can't Get You Out of My Head nod
They Say Vision- cult classic
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Reply #36 posted 04/15/03 2:49pm

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Supernova said:[quote]

intha916 said:

intha916 said:

When I think of songs from the 60's, I think:

My Girl, I Feel Good, Grapevine, Respect, etc


When you think of songs from the 70's, I think:

Staying Alive, Superstition, Yesterday,What's Going On, etc

Are you talking about the Beatles' "Yesterday"?

I don't think some of you get it. The songs I meantion above aren't my favorites of the period but rather songs that helped define the period. I love TRC but 20 years from now most people won't think TRC when they think of the 00's. I have a few I think might:

"Ms. Jackson" Outkast
"Country Grammer" Nelly
"Fallen" Alicia Keys
"Stan" Emenim
"In Da Club" 50 Cent
"Hizzo" Jay-Z
"Rock The Boat" Aaliyah

You can look at it in different ways though. You're talking about hit singles (i.e. radio saturation) in that instance. Here's another example: when many people remember the year 1977, or the late 70s in general (sans disco) they think of the Sex Pistols first and only album they released as a group. They didn't have any hit singles that were as popular as the ones you named, yet that doesn't prevent many from remembering "God Save The Queen" or their album. The music that some people remember is what they personally connect to, regardless of its lack of impact on the radio. And radio by itself doesn't make something a classic. Tina Turner's "River Deep Mountain High" was never a big hit in the USA, but it's widely regarded as a classic in the USA - and deservedly so. There are those who consider Shuggie's Inspiration Information as an early 70s classic - yet it didn't dominate the airwaves either.


I agree with purpleone's definition:

"a song is a 'classic' when YOU love it and at the same time you KNOW that everybody else loves it too. an example of a 'classic' is of course michael jackson's 'billie jean'. it's that song where you're almost certain that you speak for the rest of the world when you say: "now, that's a great song!"

While I don't love all the songs I listed, enough other people did to help them be considered classics down the road. I think it would have helped if I had not used the term "classic" because people are getting to into their own favorites and that isn't what this thread is about. Let's look at it this way, what will "oldies" radio be playing in the year 2023 that's from the 00's?
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Reply #37 posted 04/15/03 2:53pm

Moonbeam

A lot of people are mentioning Lucy Pearl. biggrin "Dance Tonight" is decent, but has NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL on "Don't Mess With My Man." That is pure funk!
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Reply #38 posted 04/15/03 2:56pm

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Meshell: Anthroprological Mixtape ****


Prince - Rainbow Children ****+


Common - Electric Circus ****1/2


Basement Jaxx - Rooty ****1/2


Jay Z - The Blueprint ****


Missy - Under Construction ****1/2


Lucy Pearl ****1/2


Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP ****


Daft Punk - Discovery ****


NERD - In Search Of ****+


Vitamin C - More ****1/2 (u may disagree, but I LOVVVEEEDDD this album from start 2 finish)
[This message was edited Tue Apr 15 15:01:14 PDT 2003 by paisleypark4]
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Reply #39 posted 04/15/03 3:09pm

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Moonbeam said:

A lot of people are mentioning Lucy Pearl. biggrin "Dance Tonight" is decent, but has NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL on "Don't Mess With My Man." That is pure funk!


I love both songs and while they are among my personel favs, and I sure will be playing them, they won't make the cut 20 years from now.
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Reply #40 posted 04/15/03 4:01pm

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intha916 said:[quote]

Supernova said:

intha916 said:

intha916 said:

When I think of songs from the 60's, I think:

My Girl, I Feel Good, Grapevine, Respect, etc


When you think of songs from the 70's, I think:

Staying Alive, Superstition, Yesterday,What's Going On, etc

Are you talking about the Beatles' "Yesterday"?

I don't think some of you get it. The songs I meantion above aren't my favorites of the period but rather songs that helped define the period. I love TRC but 20 years from now most people won't think TRC when they think of the 00's. I have a few I think might:

"Ms. Jackson" Outkast
"Country Grammer" Nelly
"Fallen" Alicia Keys
"Stan" Emenim
"In Da Club" 50 Cent
"Hizzo" Jay-Z
"Rock The Boat" Aaliyah

You can look at it in different ways though. You're talking about hit singles (i.e. radio saturation) in that instance. Here's another example: when many people remember the year 1977, or the late 70s in general (sans disco) they think of the Sex Pistols first and only album they released as a group. They didn't have any hit singles that were as popular as the ones you named, yet that doesn't prevent many from remembering "God Save The Queen" or their album. The music that some people remember is what they personally connect to, regardless of its lack of impact on the radio. And radio by itself doesn't make something a classic. Tina Turner's "River Deep Mountain High" was never a big hit in the USA, but it's widely regarded as a classic in the USA - and deservedly so. There are those who consider Shuggie's Inspiration Information as an early 70s classic - yet it didn't dominate the airwaves either.


I agree with purpleone's definition:

"a song is a 'classic' when YOU love it and at the same time you KNOW that everybody else loves it too. an example of a 'classic' is of course michael jackson's 'billie jean'. it's that song where you're almost certain that you speak for the rest of the world when you say: "now, that's a great song!"

While I don't love all the songs I listed, enough other people did to help them be considered classics down the road. I think it would have helped if I had not used the term "classic" because people are getting to into their own favorites and that isn't what this thread is about. Let's look at it this way, what will "oldies" radio be playing in the year 2023 that's from the 00's?

Ah! Gotcha. nod
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Reply #41 posted 04/15/03 4:13pm

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"Are you talking about the Beatles' "Yesterday"? "

Yep nod That was early 70's right?
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Reply #42 posted 04/15/03 4:34pm

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intha916 said:

"Are you talking about the Beatles' "Yesterday"? "

Yep nod That was early 70's right?

1965. smile
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Reply #43 posted 04/15/03 4:45pm

JANFAN4L

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Reply #44 posted 04/15/03 4:53pm

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Supernova said:

intha916 said:

"Are you talking about the Beatles' "Yesterday"? "

Yep nod That was early 70's right?

1965. smile


ok shit I was off 5 years then. I was 1 year old so gimmie a break lol. Not a big beatles fan either but I was thinking more or less about something from their last album in the early 70's.
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Reply #45 posted 04/15/03 5:07pm

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intha916 said:

Supernova said:

intha916 said:

"Are you talking about the Beatles' "Yesterday"? "

Yep nod That was early 70's right?

1965. smile


ok shit I was off 5 years then. I was 1 year old so gimmie a break lol. Not a big beatles fan either but I was thinking more or less about something from their last album in the early 70's.

Their last album, Let It Be was released in 1970, that could be the one you're thinking about. Aside from the title track "Get Back" was also a popular song from it.nod
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Reply #46 posted 04/15/03 6:10pm

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gettin Back 2 the subject...

Lucy Pearls album was tight, if u will b still playin Dont Mess With My Man, u cannot just out dish "Hollywood" GOT DAMN that is phunki
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Reply #47 posted 04/15/03 7:48pm

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Moonbeam said:

A lot of people are mentioning Lucy Pearl. biggrin "Dance Tonight" is decent, but has NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL on "Don't Mess With My Man." That is pure funk!

Dont Mess is the jam too yes but Dance Tonight is the shit. And Cant Stand Your Mother is also another jam. Hell now the whole cd is the jam.
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Reply #48 posted 04/15/03 7:50pm

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The Cult-Beyond Good and Evil
Radiohead-Kid A
Jill Scott Experience, Who Is...
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Reply #49 posted 04/15/03 9:44pm

Moonbeam

rdhull said:

Moonbeam said:

A lot of people are mentioning Lucy Pearl. biggrin "Dance Tonight" is decent, but has NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL on "Don't Mess With My Man." That is pure funk!

Dont Mess is the jam too yes but Dance Tonight is the shit. And Cant Stand Your Mother is also another jam. Hell now the whole cd is the jam.


Those are the three best! woot!

However, "Don't Mess With My Man" is too wicked. dancing jig
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Reply #50 posted 04/15/03 10:45pm

ufoclub

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That song "NoOne knows" by queens of the StoneAGe is a classic for me!
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Reply #51 posted 04/15/03 11:09pm

Christopher

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Eminem STAN summer 2000
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Reply #52 posted 04/16/03 11:25am

Rhondab

shrug I don't know what to add...confuse
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Reply #53 posted 04/16/03 11:39am

namepeace

I wouldn't feel bad about nominating

"Mama's Gun"
"Who Is Jill Scott?"
"Cookie: The Anthropological Mixtape"
"Sea Change"
"In Between"
"Quality"
"Cee-Lo Green and his Perfect Imperfections"
"simple things"

My "jury" is still out on "Phrenology" & "Electric Circus"

I also liked Amel Larrieux's "infinite possibilities," Res' debut LP, De La Soul's "AOI Pts. I and II" and remy shand's "way i feel." I haven't heard Bilal's joint, and D'Angelo and Maxwell have put out decent stuff in the interim, but nothing I would call classic. And don't get me started on Prince, who's last arguable "classic" was The Gold Experience."
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