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"EDM" Music & AMA's Appreciation

I was watching the American Music Awards and was surprised that Dance Music was now entitled in its semi-new format "EDM" and was not skipped over this time as usual on award shows. Needless to say The Chainsmokers did have a successful run this year in the category.

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However, I was listening to "Bevelations" radio show and she asked a question to callers.."what will be the next big music genre that we will see since hip hop?" It got me thinking...well I guess EDM is getting bigger...almost bigger than it was in the 90's when House was getting popular recognition.

She however said, "well who are the biggest names that DEFINE the genre you can think off the top of your head.." in which callers named some but no one who really genre defining (i.e. 2Pac, Prince, Madonna, Jay-Z, Garth Brooks).

Do you think EDM will finally be here to stay and get its recognition it deserves on award shows and radio?

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Reply #1 posted 11/20/17 1:35pm

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Ahhhh an AMA THREAD!! lol

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SHOOO

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razz

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JK the "Chainsmokers" had a great year in "EDM" which is apparently code for "Dance Music" despite their "Collaboration" with "Halsey" and its lovely mindnumbing "o'er" chorus being their claim to fame. No one is dancing to that. Maybe slow dancing (do kids still do that?). It is cute and fun in an absurd way that a terrible awards show for terrible perfomers added a new embarassing category for terrible entertainers to covet then gave said Dance award to a slow jam. If the EDM Category is not for "dance music" but for computer music they should have called it the Hip Hop Award cuz those fools be hittin' that space bar like its gonna save their life. Hell, most of the performers were singin thru computers during their "performances". Its sad when one chick that can really wail/blow has to scale buildings and fly thru the audience to get attention.

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Reply #2 posted 11/20/17 2:11pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

Ahhhh an AMA THREAD!! lol

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SHOOO

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razz

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JK the "Chainsmokers" had a great year in "EDM" which is apparently code for "Dance Music" despite their "Collaboration" with "Halsey" and its lovely mindnumbing "o'er" chorus being their claim to fame. No one is dancing to that. Maybe slow dancing (do kids still do that?). It is cute and fun in an absurd way that a terrible awards show for terrible perfomers added a new embarassing category for terrible entertainers to covet then gave said Dance award to a slow jam. If the EDM Category is not for "dance music" but for computer music they should have called it the Hip Hop Award cuz those fools be hittin' that space bar like its gonna save their life. Hell, most of the performers were singin thru computers during their "performances". Its sad when one chick that can really wail/blow has to scale buildings and fly thru the audience to get attention.


Child, 70 year old Diana could sing live but Selena and even my baby Nick Jonas have to have backup vocals...lawd...goes to show you.


Anyway I agree that the Chainsmokers are not particularly EDM. I was just listening to their album and its more pop than anything. Doesnt remind me of Daft Punk, DJ Snake, Basement Jaxx or even Calvin Harris at all.

Did anyone on here even talk about the AMA's?


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Reply #3 posted 11/20/17 2:17pm

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paisleypark4 said:

StrangeButTrue said:

Ahhhh an AMA THREAD!! lol

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SHOOO

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razz

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JK the "Chainsmokers" had a great year in "EDM" which is apparently code for "Dance Music" despite their "Collaboration" with "Halsey" and its lovely mindnumbing "o'er" chorus being their claim to fame. No one is dancing to that. Maybe slow dancing (do kids still do that?). It is cute and fun in an absurd way that a terrible awards show for terrible perfomers added a new embarassing category for terrible entertainers to covet then gave said Dance award to a slow jam. If the EDM Category is not for "dance music" but for computer music they should have called it the Hip Hop Award cuz those fools be hittin' that space bar like its gonna save their life. Hell, most of the performers were singin thru computers during their "performances". Its sad when one chick that can really wail/blow has to scale buildings and fly thru the audience to get attention.


Child, 70 year old Diana could sing live but Selena and even my baby Nick Jonas have to have backup vocals...lawd...goes to show you.


Anyway I agree that the Chainsmokers are not particularly EDM. I was just listening to their album and its more pop than anything. Doesnt remind me of Daft Punk, DJ Snake, Basement Jaxx or even Calvin Harris at all.

Did anyone on here even talk about the AMA's?


Did anyone even watch the AMAs? I know I didn't.

Dance music is dead afaIc though it's nice to see the AMAs getting with the times in that regard. I have no problem with the Dance category being renamed because all the so-called "dance" music we have now is EDM.

It's sad, really.

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Reply #4 posted 11/20/17 2:20pm

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lol I stopped watching these shows many years ago.

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Did anyone even watch the AMAs? I know I didn't.

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Reply #5 posted 11/20/17 2:25pm

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Something about Christina Aguilera singing Whitney Houston songs, blah blah blah. I heard there was a K-Pop performance at the AMAs lol

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Reply #6 posted 11/20/17 2:27pm

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This one song has one billion four hundred million views.

EDM is not "dead" you just not tuned in is all.

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Reply #7 posted 11/20/17 2:29pm

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paisleypark4 said:

StrangeButTrue said:

Ahhhh an AMA THREAD!! lol

.

SHOOO

.

razz

.

JK the "Chainsmokers" had a great year in "EDM" which is apparently code for "Dance Music" despite their "Collaboration" with "Halsey" and its lovely mindnumbing "o'er" chorus being their claim to fame. No one is dancing to that. Maybe slow dancing (do kids still do that?). It is cute and fun in an absurd way that a terrible awards show for terrible perfomers added a new embarassing category for terrible entertainers to covet then gave said Dance award to a slow jam. If the EDM Category is not for "dance music" but for computer music they should have called it the Hip Hop Award cuz those fools be hittin' that space bar like its gonna save their life. Hell, most of the performers were singin thru computers during their "performances". Its sad when one chick that can really wail/blow has to scale buildings and fly thru the audience to get attention.


Child, 70 year old Diana could sing live but Selena and even my baby Nick Jonas have to have backup vocals...lawd...goes to show you.


Anyway I agree that the Chainsmokers are not particularly EDM. I was just listening to their album and its more pop than anything. Doesnt remind me of Daft Punk, DJ Snake, Basement Jaxx or even Calvin Harris at all.

Did anyone on here even talk about the AMA's?


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Did Ms. Ross perform at this thing? All the press bullshit has been about Aguilera or K-pop lol

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Reply #8 posted 11/20/17 2:31pm

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This one should win a grammy for best choregraphed dance video with 600+ million views.

Dance music is BIG right now.

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Reply #9 posted 11/20/17 2:33pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

paisleypark4 said:


Child, 70 year old Diana could sing live but Selena and even my baby Nick Jonas have to have backup vocals...lawd...goes to show you.


Anyway I agree that the Chainsmokers are not particularly EDM. I was just listening to their album and its more pop than anything. Doesnt remind me of Daft Punk, DJ Snake, Basement Jaxx or even Calvin Harris at all.

Did anyone on here even talk about the AMA's?


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Did Ms. Ross perform at this thing? All the press bullshit has been about Aguilera or K-pop lol

She sure did sing. Even sung my song "Take Me higher" I was suprised to hear her do that one.


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Reply #10 posted 11/20/17 2:39pm

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This one song has one billion four hundred million views.

EDM is not "dead" you just not tuned in is all.

I said "dance" music (as in traditional dance music) is dead, not EDM which is unfortunately still very popular.

The genre itself isn't bad but all of it sounds practically the same on Top 40 radio and The Chainsmokers make the most paint-by-number EDM. There isn't a single thing unique or interesting about their music.

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They should call it CDM or CCM... Commercial Dance Music or Car Commercial Music.
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MotownSubdivision said:

paisleypark4 said:



This one song has one billion four hundred million views.

EDM is not "dead" you just not tuned in is all.

I said "dance" music (as in traditional dance music) is dead, not EDM which is unfortunately still very popular.

The genre itself isn't bad but all of it sounds practically the same on Top 40 radio and The Chainsmokers make the most paint-by-number EDM. There isn't a single thing unique or interesting about their music.

[Edited 11/20/17 15:39pm]

I agree when the Chainsmokers won i was like...mmkay but I don't really think their sound is traditional. It doesnt experiment, take risks or is avant garde like Flume or even Daft Punk.

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Is what Selena Gomez did pop music or is it EDM because the mysteriously/conveniently disguised producer/DJ is involved giving it "cred" for whatever it is? Do people dance to that at the clubs? The "yodely" cadence is a bit cheesy. Very Not Funky! Bad Pop Music!
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To me dance music always had that bump, that funky hip shaking sound now it's like this square dancey or fast ragga/reggaeton sound like Lean On or the Beiber song that people call EDM. EDM is like psychotherapist, anyone can do it by saying they do it? I get kids are trying to disassociate from the roots of their sounds but this ish is so confusing like dance genres weren't confusing enough pre-EDM, big media was like let's make the biggest most confusingest fake genre so folks can argue about how wrong they are even though it's usually just terrible sounding.
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StrangeButTrue said:

Is what Selena Gomez did pop music or is it EDM because the mysteriously/conveniently disguised producer/DJ is involved giving it "cred" for whatever it is? Do people dance to that at the clubs? The "yodely" cadence is a bit cheesy. Very Not Funky! Bad Pop Music! . To me dance music always had that bump, that funky hip shaking sound now it's like this square dancey or fast ragga/reggaeton sound like Lean On or the Beiber song that people call EDM. EDM is like psychotherapist, anyone can do it by saying they do it? I get kids are trying to disassociate from the roots of their sounds but this ish is so confusing like dance genres weren't confusing enough pre-EDM, big media was like let's make the biggest most confusingest fake genre so folks can argue about how wrong they are even though it's usually just terrible sounding.


If anything the new EDM is more attatched to its roots than that trance shit that was popular in the late 90's early 2000's. God that shit was awful. At least there are melodies and arrangements and drops attatched. After a while that trance shit was just the same beat over and over again with no words.

I would say Dub-Step help push dance music back in the limelight. Now that dubstep and the rave community started dying down a little it started to spring out the Calvin Harrises and collaborative like tracks that are more pop sounding.




Tracks like these were popular in the gay bars for example (Robyn is a big example) but now really taking off. In my opinion alot of it is 90's inspired.

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paisleypark4 said:



MotownSubdivision said:




paisleypark4 said:




This one song has one billion four hundred million views.

EDM is not "dead" you just not tuned in is all.



I said "dance" music (as in traditional dance music) is dead, not EDM which is unfortunately still very popular.



The genre itself isn't bad but all of it sounds practically the same on Top 40 radio and The Chainsmokers make the most paint-by-number EDM. There isn't a single thing unique or interesting about their music.


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I agree when the Chainsmokers won i was like...mmkay but I don't really think their sound is traditional. It doesnt experiment, take risks or is avant garde like Flume or even Daft Punk.

Pretty much what I was saying. Their music is cliché and interchangeable noise. I don't get how a duo as flavorless and trite as The Chainsmokers even made it past the level of uploading beats to SoundCloud from their bedrooms.
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Kaytranada.
Can we call that EDM?
It's soulful and jazzy and on the cutting edge of production/technology.







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Sampha at times crosses into "edm, it is still very soulful though.

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hausofmoi7 said:

Kaytranada. Can we call that EDM? It's soulful and jazzy and on the cutting edge of production/technology. [Edited 11/21/17 5:57am]

Oh this shit is HOTT. I love it! Yes this would be EDM as well. I love it. Going to have to download these to the ipod

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Reply #19 posted 11/21/17 9:29am

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My husband and I tuned in to see the Whitney Houston/Body Guard tribute. When we turned it on, Selena Gomez was "performing". What a joke. Chick can't sing to save her life. Anyway, we were disapppointed with Christina's tribute. She can sing, but always over-sings and doesn't know how to deliver a song without warbling all over. Then we turned off the tv.

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Empress said:

My husband and I tuned in to see the Whitney Houston/Body Guard tribute. When we turned it on, Selena Gomez was "performing". What a joke. Chick can't sing to save her life. Anyway, we were disapppointed with Christina's tribute. She can sing, but always over-sings and doesn't know how to deliver a song without warbling all over. Then we turned off the tv.

Still was worth it to see Diana's lovely performance

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Oh this shit is HOTT. I love it! Yes this would be EDM as well. I love it. Going to have to download these to the ipod

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Kaytranada is the truth, dig his work a LOTTTT love the whole of his two albums. The one track "Club Bang" uses some melody from an older Deee-Lite tune. I like how he acknowledges the roots of the music while taking it to a new level.

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Azealia Banks.
Released Some of the best music of the last few years, regardless of genre.
Debut album was one of the strongest releases that year.
A lot of her catalogue incorporates EDM beats.

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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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(Warning: Strong language)


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So it seems Bruno won a lot of awards in both the Pop and R&B fields yet I really didnt hear about the wins afterwards. I actually had to do a google search to find out if he won anything. If Taylor Swift or Beyonce won that many awards, the headlines would have been everywhere.
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