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Another Woman Accuses R. Kelly of Abuse

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Tues, Oct 24



The list of women accusing R. Kelly of controlling behavior and abuse grows longer. Kitti Jones, a former Dallas radio DJ, tells Rolling Stone she was a victim while living with the singer from 2011-2013.


Jones claims she was beaten, forced to have sex with other women, and forced to obey Kelly's strict rules or face punishment, which included starvation. Rules included what to eat, how to dress, when to go to the bathroom, and exactly how to perform in bed with him.

At one point, Jones said she considered suicide, or murder. "I'm gonna kill myself and it's gonna be his fault," she remembers. "I can either kill myself or kill him. What use am I when I walk out of here?" According to Jones, Kelly would fly girls in for sex, and order her and his other girlfriends to participate. "You can't say no because you're going to get punished," she says. Jones also claims Kelly urinated on two women while she and the women were having group sex.

"He just went back and forth [on them] when he was peeing and told [another girlfriend] to clean it up afterwards,: she says. "That was the worst that I've ever seen." Jones says she left R. Kelly in September 2013. R. Kelly denies Jones' charges.

In a statement his representative declares, in part: “It is unfortunate that Ms. Jones, after public statements to the contrary, is now attempting to portray a relationship history with Mr. Kelly as anything other than consensual involvement between two adults. ...Any claim of wrongdoing of any kind or of mistreatment of any woman by him is false, ill-motived and defamatory.

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Reply #1 posted 10/24/17 10:18pm

SoulAlive

It never ends nuts can this guy just go retire somewhere?!
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Reply #2 posted 10/25/17 7:25am

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Identity said:

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Tues, Oct 24



The list of women accusing R. Kelly of controlling behavior and abuse grows longer. Kitti Jones, a former Dallas radio DJ, tells Rolling Stone she was a victim while living with the singer from 2011-2013.


Jones claims she was beaten, forced to have sex with other women, and forced to obey Kelly's strict rules or face punishment, which included starvation. Rules included what to eat, how to dress, when to go to the bathroom, and exactly how to perform in bed with him.

At one point, Jones said she considered suicide, or murder. "I'm gonna kill myself and it's gonna be his fault," she remembers. "I can either kill myself or kill him. What use am I when I walk out of here?" According to Jones, Kelly would fly girls in for sex, and order her and his other girlfriends to participate. "You can't say no because you're going to get punished," she says. Jones also claims Kelly urinated on two women while she and the women were having group sex.

"He just went back and forth [on them] when he was peeing and told [another girlfriend] to clean it up afterwards,: she says. "That was the worst that I've ever seen." Jones says she left R. Kelly in September 2013. R. Kelly denies Jones' charges.

In a statement his representative declares, in part: “It is unfortunate that Ms. Jones, after public statements to the contrary, is now attempting to portray a relationship history with Mr. Kelly as anything other than consensual involvement between two adults. ...Any claim of wrongdoing of any kind or of mistreatment of any woman by him is false, ill-motived and defamatory.

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I cannot understand why women can continue to be involved with him. Who in their right mind would live in a house with him? Run when you see him coming and realize no amount of money is worth your diginity.

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Reply #3 posted 10/25/17 11:43am

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laurarichardson said:



Identity said:


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Tues, Oct 24



The list of women accusing R. Kelly of controlling behavior and abuse grows longer. Kitti Jones, a former Dallas radio DJ, tells Rolling Stone she was a victim while living with the singer from 2011-2013.


Jones claims she was beaten, forced to have sex with other women, and forced to obey Kelly's strict rules or face punishment, which included starvation. Rules included what to eat, how to dress, when to go to the bathroom, and exactly how to perform in bed with him.

At one point, Jones said she considered suicide, or murder. "I'm gonna kill myself and it's gonna be his fault," she remembers. "I can either kill myself or kill him. What use am I when I walk out of here?" According to Jones, Kelly would fly girls in for sex, and order her and his other girlfriends to participate. "You can't say no because you're going to get punished," she says. Jones also claims Kelly urinated on two women while she and the women were having group sex.

"He just went back and forth [on them] when he was peeing and told [another girlfriend] to clean it up afterwards,: she says. "That was the worst that I've ever seen." Jones says she left R. Kelly in September 2013. R. Kelly denies Jones' charges.

In a statement his representative declares, in part: “It is unfortunate that Ms. Jones, after public statements to the contrary, is now attempting to portray a relationship history with Mr. Kelly as anything other than consensual involvement between two adults. ...Any claim of wrongdoing of any kind or of mistreatment of any woman by him is false, ill-motived and defamatory.

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I cannot understand why women can continue to be involved with him. Who in their right mind would live in a house with him? Run when you see him coming and realize no amount of money is worth your diginity.





I personally can't wrap my head around this. Clearly, these women are hooking up with him for his fortune and fame but at what price? Why do they go and live with him? What do they expect? And why isn't he in prison?
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Reply #4 posted 10/25/17 1:25pm

SoulAlive

yeah,I don 't know why these women are so dumb.Don't they know about his past and what he's been accused of before?! nuts

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Reply #5 posted 10/25/17 2:10pm

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Maybe it didn't seem that bad until they had to clean it up...? lol

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Reply #6 posted 10/25/17 2:20pm

SoulAlive

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Reply #7 posted 10/25/17 3:13pm

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Clearly you folks don't know that a lot of women will do anything for a buck, *FAME, concert tickets, backstage passes, being around celebrity, trying to be a celebrity ....lookit Sleaze Kardashian. ....how'd SHE get famous?

Come again?

Look who's looking up to em.
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Reply #8 posted 10/25/17 3:19pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

Maybe it didn't seem that bad until they had to clean it up...? lol




Ew! biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 10/25/17 8:17pm

SoulAlive

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Clearly you folks don't know that a lot of women will do anything for a buck, Dane, concert tickets, backstage passes, being around celebrity, trying to be a celebrity ....lookit Sleaze Kardashian. ....how'd SHE get famous?

Come again?

Look who's looking up to em.


True but I think that,since these ladies know what they’re getting into,they shoukdn’t be running to the media later,crying about how they were treated.
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Reply #10 posted 10/25/17 11:26pm

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He is sick and needs serious help.
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Reply #11 posted 10/26/17 1:54am

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SoulAlive said:

2045RadicalMattZ said:

Clearly you folks don't know that a lot of women will do anything for a buck, Dane, concert tickets, backstage passes, being around celebrity, trying to be a celebrity ....lookit Sleaze Kardashian. ....how'd SHE get famous?

Come again?

Look who's looking up to em.


True but I think that,since these ladies know what they’re getting into,they shoukdn’t be running to the media later,crying about how they were treated.

That's nearly the same thing i thought about much of the Cosby hub ub.

He wasn't asking them to come back with him to play Chinese checkers or CHUTES AND LADDERS. .....c'mon. It was a HUGELY POPULAR recreational drug among people of that age. Like bennies, whites, black beauties, reds, greenies er whatever else you called em.

They were looking to advance their career at any cost and probably regretted it
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Reply #12 posted 10/26/17 5:40am

alphastreet

I'm not trying to say he shouldn't have any accountability, but I have to wonder who would want to live with him and why. Did she just not know????
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Reply #13 posted 10/26/17 7:04am

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alphastreet said:

I'm not trying to say he shouldn't have any accountability, but I have to wonder who would want to live with him and why. Did she just not know????

Right.

How many times u gotta eat out somebody's @$$ and get pissed on before SOMETHING CLICKS IN YOUR HEAD?


...

R: "eat that **** bitch! Call me daddy!"
Girl: "wait wait. ..umm...you mean this one?"
R: "dats right ho! Yall my bitches, gonna take a little shower with me"
Girls: "ok"
R: " now I'm gonna go in the closet and sing while y'all make a movie in my yellow swimming pool"
Girls: (nod at each other)
girl 2: "Oooooh we Hollywood now! I'm lapping up pee with R Kelly!"
Girl 1: (hmmmm.....something feels strange here)
...."....daddy u forgot the blow!"
R: "bitch, u best shut up before i give u a blow"
Girl 2: "oooooh We' Hollywood now! "
Girl 3: (conflicted internal monologue).....*"wait...wait something's not right here"....GIRL, YOU FORGOT TO USE A DAMN COASTER!


.....and then the tmz story breaks


Girl 4: "Oh no... I KNEW something was wrong!"....."i lapped up all that piss and didn't even get on the record!....ooh that's an evil man! .....HOW MUCH THEY SUING FOR???"


See. Once u break it down and draw it out It sounds even crazier....not processional. Unless ur talking crackhoe prostitute "professional".


ONCE would be enough for the normal person to call either the law, family, cousins, freakin SOMETHING!"

These are PEOPLE acting out in the open, in city places. ....likely interacting with all kinds of other caretakers, caterers, professionals etc.

These crazy skanks were most likely putting the stamp on his freakiness.


NOW, if they got proof of him holding a gun to their head, THEN you've got something. Dude sounds like a freak that would make Chuck Berry blush
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Reply #14 posted 10/26/17 9:11am

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

alphastreet said:
I'm not trying to say he shouldn't have any accountability, but I have to wonder who would want to live with him and why. Did she just not know????
Right. How many times u gotta eat out somebody's @$$ and get pissed on before SOMETHING CLICKS IN YOUR HEAD? ... R: "eat that **** bitch! Call me daddy!" Girl: "wait wait. ..umm...you mean this one?" R: "dats right ho! Yall my bitches, gonna take a little shower with me" Girls: "ok" R: " now I'm gonna go in the closet and sing while y'all make a movie in my yellow swimming pool" Girls: (nod at each other) girl 2: "Oooooh we Hollywood now! I'm lapping up pee with R Kelly!" Girl 1: (hmmmm......something feels strange here) ...."....daddy u forgot the blow!" R: "bitch, u best shut up before i give u a blow" Girl 2: "oooooh We' Hollywood now! " Girl 3: (conflicted internal monologue)......*"wait...wait something's not right here"....GIRL, YOU FORGOT TO USE A DAMN COASTER! .....and then the tmz story breaks Girl 4: "Oh no... I KNEW something was wrong!"....."i lapped up all that piss and didn't even get on the record!....ooh that's an evil man! .....HOW MUCH THEY SUING FOR???" See. Once u break it down and draw it out It sounds even crazier....not processional. Unless ur talking crackhoe prostitute "professional". ONCE would be enough for the normal person to call either the law, family, cousins, freakin SOMETHING!" These are PEOPLE acting out in the open, in city places. ....likely interacting with all kinds of other caretakers, caterers, professionals etc. These crazy skanks were most likely putting the stamp on his freakiness. NOW, if they got proof of him holding a gun to their head, THEN you've got something. Dude sounds like a freak that would make Chuck Berry blush

Co-sign. You would think whipping out his willy to pee on people would send chicks running. Also what dumbass allows someone to not let them eat. Hit that fool in the head with a frying pan and go get a sandwich.

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Reply #15 posted 10/26/17 10:03am

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bored2 Don't feel sorry for any of them. They've all heard the stories. They knew exactly what they are getting into.

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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Reply #16 posted 10/26/17 4:26pm

alphastreet

I have to wonder if she was recruited though, or if any trafficking activity was involved that got her in this situation, in light of the reports about him having a cult and things like that. As ridiculous as it sounds, I don't think it's far fetched in his case at all. Unless she was living under a rock and had no idea who he was, I find it so hard to believe someone would want to live with him willingly.

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Reply #17 posted 10/26/17 6:36pm

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They've got a huge case now, I guess when there is another event that needs covering up or something someone does that needs a distraction, we'll hear about it in greater significance and there is an opportunity to tie it to hashtags. The Pied Pisser will be thrown to the wolves when the tail wags the dog, I just hope it's before Arnold.

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Reply #18 posted 10/26/17 7:02pm

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spacedolphin said:

They've got a huge case now, I guess when there is another event that needs covering up or something someone does that needs a distraction, we'll hear about it in greater significance and there is an opportunity to tie it to hashtags. The Pied Pisser will be thrown to the wolves when the tail wags the dog, I just hope it's before Arnold.


Arnold?

What's going on with him this time?

*you DO mean "Ahnuldd", right?
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Reply #19 posted 10/27/17 2:27pm

SoulAlive

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bored2 Don't feel sorry for any of them. They've all heard the stories. They knew exactly what they are getting into.

I feel the same way.Any woman who gets involved with R.Kelly deserves what they get."He pissed on me"....blah blah blah...cry me a river!

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Reply #20 posted 10/27/17 6:18pm

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Once again r. kelly is not held accountable for his actions and again it's the females' fault. When it was an open secret/common knowledge that he was going around Chicago targeting, young, African American girls, as young as 14; f***i*N* pissing in their mouths; it was their fault because they were "fast"; shouldn't have been dealing with a grown man, knew what time it was, their families were getting paid and on and on and on. When it came to light that the rumors about his relationship with Aaliyah were true; it was just considered a one off, no harm, no foul and/or she also knew what she was doing and targeted him. Now that it's common knowledge that he is manipulating and abusing adult women, the fallout still doesn't land on him. Like he's the Taflon Don of perversion.

Jim DeRogatis paraphrasing Malcolm X by way of Mark Anthony Neal: "Nobody matters less in society than young black women."

Neal was absolutely right; if it was ONE white girl from the suburbs, his azz would be under the jail.

“The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman. The most unprotected person in America is the Black woman. The most neglected person in America is the Black woman.” Malcolm X

Those two quotes says it all; say whatever you like they're dead on

Love the comments, just in time for Domestic Violence Awareness Month.... for every woman that went back to an abusive relationship, or stayed, or got with the person in the first place and ended up dead; guess y'all don't have any sympathy for them either.


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Reply #21 posted 10/27/17 6:27pm

SoulAlive

How can we sympathize with grown women who *choose* to get involved with R.Kelly? They know what they’re getting into.It’s common knowledge that he is a sick,disgusting pervert.They should know better.
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Reply #22 posted 10/28/17 5:48am

SPYZFAN1

He'll continue to keep getting away with this type of behavior...As long as he puts out "Happy People Part 5" or "Trapped In The Closet: The Junior High School Years", his fans will pardon him..and the girls will still be starstruck.

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Reply #23 posted 10/28/17 7:58am

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alphastreet said:

I have to wonder if she was recruited though, or if any trafficking activity was involved that got her in this situation, in light of the reports about him having a cult and things like that. As ridiculous as it sounds, I don't think it's far fetched in his case at all. Unless she was living under a rock and had no idea who he was, I find it so hard to believe someone would want to live with him willingly.



The new accuser said she quit her job as a DJ and sold her car when R. Kelly promised to double her salary if she'd move in with him. Looking back, she realizes how naive she had been. Really?!

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Reply #24 posted 10/28/17 9:13am

alphastreet

Identity said:

alphastreet said:

I have to wonder if she was recruited though, or if any trafficking activity was involved that got her in this situation, in light of the reports about him having a cult and things like that. As ridiculous as it sounds, I don't think it's far fetched in his case at all. Unless she was living under a rock and had no idea who he was, I find it so hard to believe someone would want to live with him willingly.



The new accuser said she quit her job as a DJ and sold her car when R. Kelly promised to double her salary if she'd move in with him. Looking back, she realizes how naive she had been. Really?!

that's so sad sad did she believe he was innocent or that his twin brother did it? The man was caught on camera for crying out loud! It's not he-said she-said in this case at all. Such a shame, such a talent and he threw it out the window with his perverted sick head

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Reply #25 posted 10/28/17 9:15am

alphastreet

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Once again r. kelly is not held accountable for his actions and again it's the females' fault. When it was an open secret/common knowledge that he was going around Chicago targeting, young, African American girls, as young as 14; f***i*N* pissing in their mouths; it was their fault because they were "fast"; shouldn't have been dealing with a grown man, knew what time it was, their families were getting paid and on and on and on. When it came to light that the rumors about his relationship with Aaliyah were true; it was just considered a one off, no harm, no foul and/or she also knew what she was doing and targeted him. Now that it's common knowledge that he is manipulating and abusing adult women, the fallout still doesn't land on him. Like he's the Taflon Don of perversion.

Jim DeRogatis paraphrasing Malcolm X by way of Mark Anthony Neal: "Nobody matters less in society than young black women."

Neal was absolutely right; if it was ONE white girl from the suburbs, his azz would be under the jail.

“The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman. The most unprotected person in America is the Black woman. The most neglected person in America is the Black woman.” Malcolm X

Those two quotes says it all; say whatever you like they're dead on

Love the comments, just in time for Domestic Violence Awareness Month.... for every woman that went back to an abusive relationship, or stayed, or got with the person in the first place and ended up dead; guess y'all don't have any sympathy for them either.

[Edited 10/27/17 18:20pm]

I agree, which is why I have to question critically how this could have happened, and what instrumental role he truly played that got her into this. Maybe there's something dark like threats in the mix that led her to it. Or if not, then being naive and getting taken advantage of for that alone to some degree. Having low pay already makes her vulnerable....he seems to have a thing for young girls and promising them the world....

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Reply #26 posted 10/28/17 4:02pm

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alphastreet said:

Identity said:



The new accuser said she quit her job as a DJ and sold her car when R. Kelly promised to double her salary if she'd move in with him. Looking back, she realizes how naive she had been. Really?!

that's so sad sad did she believe he was innocent or that his twin brother did it? The man was caught on camera for crying out loud! It's not he-said she-said in this case at all. Such a shame, such a talent and he threw it out the window with his perverted sick head

A jury of 12, who saw the tape, did not hold him accountable, so what does that say (read the articles if you haven't. Although MANY testified that the girl on the video was 14 at the time; she failed to appear/cooperate so that is one reason that he was not held criminally liable). But also, I would like to know if he was caught on camera for crying out loud, pissing in a 14 year old's mouth; why ANYONE would continue to support him financially? We as a society are cupable; not just the entertainment industry.

Yes, she said she had not seen the tape and thought it was a "set up". Once she saw the type and questioned him.... never mind

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Reply #27 posted 10/29/17 8:11am

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R Kelly said in his book he was sexually abused by a member of his family, IIRC one of his Aunts, which happened more than once. Does this excuse his behavior, no way, but it seems he might be doing things to get back at his abuser via others. Definitely the wrong thing to do and he needs help and counselling and ladies need to keep away from him until he changes his ways.
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Reply #28 posted 10/29/17 8:37am

alphastreet

Asenath0607 said:

alphastreet said:

that's so sad sad did she believe he was innocent or that his twin brother did it? The man was caught on camera for crying out loud! It's not he-said she-said in this case at all. Such a shame, such a talent and he threw it out the window with his perverted sick head

A jury of 12, who saw the tape, did not hold him accountable, so what does that say (read the articles if you haven't. Although MANY testified that the girl on the video was 14 at the time; she failed to appear/cooperate so that is one reason that he was not held criminally liable). But also, I would like to know if he was caught on camera for crying out loud, pissing in a 14 year old's mouth; why ANYONE would continue to support him financially? We as a society are cupable; not just the entertainment industry.

Yes, she said she had not seen the tape and thought it was a "set up". Once she saw the type and questioned him.... never mind

It says society is problematic and further perpetuating victim blaming. Why did she fail to appear? Did any of them ask what could have kept her from it?

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Reply #29 posted 10/29/17 8:39am

alphastreet

thetimefan said:

R Kelly said in his book he was sexually abused by a member of his family, IIRC one of his Aunts, which happened more than once. Does this excuse his behavior, no way, but it seems he might be doing things to get back at his abuser via others. Definitely the wrong thing to do and he needs help and counselling and ladies need to keep away from him until he changes his ways.

It's like he gets a thrill from inflicting on others what he suffered from and feels in power, when really he's out of control and is psychologically disturbed. Maybe he needs to keep away from ladies rather and get help for his sex addiction or whatever the hell he deals with.

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