I noticed "Fuck" is edited out of "Star People '97" on the 2nd disk. :-/

PennyPurple said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I noticed "Fuck" is edited out of "Star People '97" on the 2nd disk. :-/

Really? That's because MTV said: "Hey, George... don't fuckin swear, or else we won't be able to broadcast your performance of that song about the stars."

No, seriously, that's a shame.

But it's cool, I still have the original CD Single. Pretty sure it's still intact on that version.

Yep. It's unedited all right, I just checked.

anc282 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I noticed "Fuck" is edited out of "Star People '97" on the 2nd disk. :-/

Really? That's because MTV said: "Hey, George... don't fuckin swear, or else we won't be able to broadcast your performance of that song about the stars."

No, seriously, that's a shame.

But it's cool, I still have the original CD Single. Pretty sure it's still intact on that version.

Yep. It's unedited all right, I just checked.

It's odd because "bullshit" is clear as day in "Fastlove". I mean, there's an edit for broadcast but we're talking about the original sound feed here working as the master tapes. Who's going to that tape and taking out "fuck" but not "bullshit"? GM hasn't ever shied away from cussin'.

That aside, I'm finally sitting down to listen on headphones while I work on my next book. It's so open and crisp and warm. It's a really nice layering and separation of sounds compared to what I've heard in the past. Just beautiful.

Edit: "Praying For Time" is fucking stellar. This is now my preferred version over the album version. How fucking gorgeous. He was truly in his prime during these years.

I could not find the 4-disk set anywhere in my city today (a city were Record Town's parent company is home-based); just the 2-disk. So Amazon now has a chunk of my change for the 4-disk, but I'll have a nice chunk of great music in a week. #NoFucksGiven

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Loved the documentary! Brought tears to my eyes.

Watching the documentary now. This is his last work and feels like a great and beautiful close to one hell of a life and talent. Makes me miss him more...

CynicKill said:

lastdecember said:

Again I know we are clammoring for PRINCE stuff everytime someone deceased releases something, but this was a release due A LONG time ago, was delayed actually because of his death. In Prince's Case we are all going nuts for Vault stuff and that is not really an open matter not because of his "personal and family" it is because of him and how he kept things, where he kept things, did he finish things what did things sound like, who played on these tracks etc....I mean there is still stuff that Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury and Queen did together that still has not seen the light of day and probably never will. So if you are holding out for more PRINCE stuff especially vault stuff, it is a long time coming if ever.

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All I'm really asking for is a proper release of the last shows.

That should be a no-brainer for whoever's in charge.

But again who is in charge, PRINCE was always in charge, and now he is gone, it's not like he was ever one to even consider LIVE releases, we all thought he would flood the market when he got FREE but did he really do that? Sure he had some music club releases and a live single and a box set for the One Nite Alone tour but what people wanted were vault tracks and shows and that stuff sorry to say probably wont be coming. As for the last shows, I guess we better hope someone has a soundboard bootleg cause I think that is the only way we are getting it.

If there are any Aussie fans out there reading this, Channel 9 will be airing the special at 8:30 on Wednesday night.


I'll be available for live streaming on the night as well @ 9now.com.au.


I also just came across this:

https://www.9now.com.au/a-current-affair/2016/extras/latest/161226/george-michael

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It premiered on Showtime in the U.S. last night and can probably be found on Showtime onDemand and future repeat airings.

thetimefan said:

Great documentary. I don't get why Fast love mixes are on the reissue set as its from "Older". I get why "Too Funky" is on it but if they were collecting different mixes etc why not include "Different Corner". Are there any mixes etc of They Won't Go and Praying for Time. Also they should have included the MTV unplugged special on the DVD. I would have included Trojan Souls with LWPV1 and put Unplugged with an Older box set.

Yeah, I don't know why they've included stuff from the "Older" era. I was confused by that when they first announced it. I was hoping George was going to include "Listen Without Prejudice Vol.2" but he must have completely scrapped it unfortunately. Unless it's done but he was unhappy with it... who knows at the end of the day?

anc282 said:

thetimefan said:

Great documentary. I don't get why Fast love mixes are on the reissue set as its from "Older". I get why "Too Funky" is on it but if they were collecting different mixes etc why not include "Different Corner". Are there any mixes etc of They Won't Go and Praying for Time. Also they should have included the MTV unplugged special on the DVD. I would have included Trojan Souls with LWPV1 and put Unplugged with an Older box set.

Yeah, I don't know why they've included stuff from the "Older" era. I was confused by that when they first announced it. I was hoping George was going to include "Listen Without Prejudice Vol.2" but he must have completely scrapped it unfortunately. Unless it's done but he was unhappy with it... who knows at the end of the day?

I think there is a bit of confusion about LWP and the documentary. What should have been done was a Classic Albums type of setup where he talked about each song and the makeup behind it, the genesis of the album, promotion, video ideas, etc. Instead, it was more of a retrospective. The confusion lies, I think, in that it was put out at the same time LWPV1 deluxe was. I liked the docu but I do wish it would have concentrated more on the album itself.

LWPV2 was never completed, so there wasn't much to include as far as the album goes. Some of the songs ended up on other projects. It was never a completed album unfortunately.

I just received the box set and it's fucking gorgeous! It comes in a larger 10"x10" type slipcase, not a regular CD box. There are nice photos in the reviews on Amazon. Definitely worth the cost which, really, isn't that much for such a nice set.

TrivialPursuit said:

George Michael is #1 on the UK charts, with Listen Without Prejudice.

thetimefan said:

I know there's one VHS with a blue cover but that was from the Faith era. I think if they go back and reissue the Wham albums there's videos they could include as part of the set.

For when they reissue Older have they got anything they could include other than remixes etc. Unless there's concert(s) or TV appearances etc Still think MTV Unplugged should have been with Older. I also would like to see an EP of Georges Stevie covers. You and I was a free download/charity donation on his website which he sung for Will and Kate. Are there any other Stevie songs which George recorded which are unreleased. I know he sung Living for the City with Stevie too and I Believe, As, They Won't Go etc.

You might be thinking of the video that came out when LWP was released, and it covered GM's career to that point. It almost seems like it's the same thing that the Southbank Show is on the DVD in this set.

With Older, he didn't tour, so the closest would be the Cover To Cover Tour, which was really meant to support LWP (and is puzzling as to why some clips were not included on this set, because the DVD is lacking a bit). The Unplugged definitely belongs with Older more than LWP, IMO.

The EP of Stevie covers could be a fun idea. Moreover, a duets album would be cool. There could be others that went unreleased.

"I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me)" with Aretha

"If I Told You That" with Whitney

"Blame It On The Sun" with Ray Charles

"How Do You Keep The Music Playing" with Tony Bennett

"As" with Mary J. Blige

"Desafinado" with Astrud Gilberto

"Learn To Say No" with Jody Watley

"Heal The Pain" with Paul McCartney

"Waltz Away Dreaming" with Toby Bourke

"Somebody To Love" with Queen

"These are The Days Of Our Lives" with Queen and Lisa Stansfield

"Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me" with Elton John

"This Is Not Real Love" with Mutya Buena

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TrivialPursuit said:

I just received the box set and it's fucking gorgeous! It comes in a larger 10"x10" type slipcase, not a regular CD box. There are nice photos in the reviews on Amazon. Definitely worth the cost which, really, isn't that much for such a nice set.

Received it today and indeed this is beautiful!

I was impressed with Bowie's boxes but this is even better. Only the book is a bit difficult to read because of the light colour of the text.

So, so much better done than Purple Rain deluxe packaging..

skipthecharades said:

Received it today and indeed this is beautiful!

I was impressed with Bowie's boxes but this is even better. Only the book is a bit difficult to read because of the light colour of the text.

So, so much better done than Purple Rain deluxe packaging..

Yeah, it's definitely not something to read in low light. I really love that the slip box is thicker and sturdy. I also found the little detail of the bars to indicate the number of the CD really nice. It's on the CD and in the book. CD1 has | CD 2 has ||, ||| ||||, etc. Sleek and modern. GM has always done up his product really nicely.

So that video tape that came out in 1990 is not a part of this boxset?

anc282 said:

So that video tape that came out in 1990 is not a part of this boxset?

It's the same thing as the Southbank Show from what I can tell. From Discogs:

The one-hour documentary follows George Michael's career from very early days to the summer of 1990 and the recording of his latest album, 'Listen Without Prejudice' the follow up to 'Faith'.

Featuring documentary footage spanning almost a decade, it is a rare opportunity to observe George Michael at work: in the studio as the singer, at the mixing desk as producer, in rehearsals as a performer and perhaps most importantly as a songwriter, talking extensively to Melvyn Bragg (Host of London weekend television's 'The Southbank Show') about music, and his career to date.

EmmaMcG said:

Not only that but the parts where it focuses on his war with Sony should be of particular interest to a lot of Prince fans seeing as both artists had similar grievances with record labels.

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GM signed a stupefyingly awful record deal and only realised this waaay too late. How do we know it is a super-bad deal? Because GM sued Sony and his contract became public due to the lawsuit. I recall a music industry doc in the mid/late-1990s on BBC Two where they had several people mocking GM for a) signing such a bad deal and then b) making it public.

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Prince simply got buyers' remorse after signing his deal and realising it wasn't the goldmine he had pretended it was in his mind.

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Of course both GM and P blamed their labels for bad sales numbers after failing to promote the record they were complaining about.

Annoying that they didn't put out volume 2 with this or Extended Play Thing whatever that was

Dilan said:

Annoying that they didn't put out volume 2 with this or Extended Play Thing whatever that was

Read the thread. It's mentioned. But, from wikipedia, summing it up:

The follow-up album Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 2 was scrapped for reasons known only to Michael and his record company. Three of the tracks intended for that album appear on the AIDS benefit album Red Hot + Dance, while a fourth ("Crazyman Dance") turned up on the B-side of that album's first single, "Too Funky".

Those tracks: "Too Funky", "Happy", "Crazy Man Dance" "Do You Really Want To Know" are on LWPV1 set. We don't know how many, if any, other songs were already done for LWPV2. I don't know what extended play you're talking about. Older had an attached EP later on called Upper, but that wasn't part of LWPV1 of course.

I always felt "Too Funky" was his "17 Days", in that it was the single always in search of an album. Much like Elton's "Philadelphia Freedom" which was never on an album proper, but part of Greatest Hits packages (like "Too Funky"). Alan Leeds categorized "17 Days" as the song in search of an album. GM & Elton had those as well.

TrivialPursuit said:

Dilan said:

Annoying that they didn't put out volume 2 with this or Extended Play Thing whatever that was

Read the thread. It's mentioned. But, from wikipedia, summing it up:

The follow-up album Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 2 was scrapped for reasons known only to Michael and his record company. Three of the tracks intended for that album appear on the AIDS benefit album Red Hot + Dance, while a fourth ("Crazyman Dance") turned up on the B-side of that album's first single, "Too Funky".

Those tracks: "Too Funky", "Happy", "Crazy Man Dance" "Do You Really Want To Know" are on LWPV1 set. We don't know how many, if any, other songs were already done for LWPV2. I don't know what extended play you're talking about. Older had an attached EP later on called Upper, but that wasn't part of LWPV1 of course.

I always felt "Too Funky" was his "17 Days", in that it was the single always in search of an album. Much like Elton's "Philadelphia Freedom" which was never on an album proper, but part of Greatest Hits packages (like "Too Funky"). Alan Leeds categorized "17 Days" as the song in search of an album. GM & Elton had those as well.

Thanks trivial Pursuit, but there are other tracks like 'Thank You' for example that are believed to be part of LWP aswell ain't no stopping us now and how many hearts. If you google it you can find out it was an EP that was to take the place of LWP 2.

BartVanHemelen said:

Dilan said:

Thanks trivial Pursuit, but there are other tracks like 'Thank You' for example that are believed to be part of LWP aswell ain't no stopping us now and how many hearts. If you google it you can find out it was an EP that was to take the place of LWP 2.

I wonder if they were ever finished or not. I mean, don't get me wrong. It'd be nice to have LWPV2, or even the EP of songs from the aborted sessions. Did the estate or family not really know about it to put this together? Did Song Legacy not know enough to ask for them? They owned them probably, so they could have asked George to put them on the set. It's neither here nor there at this point. Maybe in the future, there'll be a set of unreleased things put out.

Next Monday will be the 30th Anniversary of "Faith"!

It is on my must buy list if the price is right. The documentary was just beautiful, GM should have made more, he is a great movie maker and was just a lovely guy with all the donations and things.

Adorecream said:

It is on my must buy list if the price is right. The documentary was just beautiful, GM should have made more, he is a great movie maker and was just a lovely guy with all the donations and things.

It was about $55US, or about $80NZ. I think it was a good price here. I expected to pay more (Beyonce overpriced the fuck out of her Lemonade box set.) But there is a 2-CD set out there for the usual $16.99US on average.

TrivialPursuit said: