I started this thread yesterday but it disappeared?

Josh Todd of Buckcherry is a huge fan of Prince and always wanted to work with him. That didn't work out, but his latest band, The Conflict, just covered Erotic City on their new album Year Of The Tiger. It's nothing too far from the original other than it is now a rock song...well done in my opinion.

I recommend a listen if you are so inclined!

and how did they get permission to do this??

its pretty good btw

luvsexy4all said:

and how did they get permission to do this??

its pretty good btw

Great question...perhaps they didn't? I purchased it and it only mentions that it was written by Prince and is listed as Universal Publishing! I think there lies the answer...UMP has the rights to all of his catalogue and therefore gives the yea or nay. I think there well may be a lot of this to come!

It's clearly a cover by a big fan of the man and his music and is quite frankly a really well done version.

4anothertime said:

luvsexy4all said:

and how did they get permission to do this??

its pretty good btw

Great question...perhaps they didn't? I purchased it and it only mentions that it was written by Prince and is listed as Universal Publishing! I think there lies the answer...UMP has the rights to all of his catalogue and therefore gives the yea or nay. I think there well may be a lot of this to come!

It's clearly a cover by a big fan of the man and his music and is quite frankly a really well done version.

wheres laura???...

luvsexy4all said:

My understnding is anyone can cover anything as long as you pay the royalties and dont make any "significant" changes.

Or is that only live, not mechanical?

luvsexy4all said:

and how did they get permission to do this??

its pretty good btw

You should pay attention to Prince more. He talked about this on Lopez. There's a thing (and we've discussed it here in the last year I believe) called compulsory law or license. It compels an artist to allow others to cover their song. They can't just hoard them for themselves and never let someone else perform them. That's why there are so many Prince covers. There could be a way around that based on ownership, but it would seem even if that does exist it's not paid much attention in general.

TrivialPursuit said:

luvsexy4all said:

and how did they get permission to do this??

its pretty good btw

You should pay attention to Prince more. He talked about this on Lopez. There's a thing (and we've discussed it here in the last year I believe) called compulsory law or license. It compels an artist to allow others to cover their song. They can't just hoard them for themselves and never let someone else perform them. That's why there are so many Prince covers. There could be a way around that based on ownership, but it would seem even if that does exist it's not paid much attention in general.

No, nothing can be done to stop a cover. The only thing the group or person has to do is make sure the royalties get paid to the writer or copyright holder.

luvsexy4all said:

If people had to get permission to remake songs, then a lot of people wouldn't release Christmas albums since most have the same songs. Nor would some songs become standards recorded by hundreds or thousands of singers/bands. Legally, Weird Al doesn't have to get permission to do parodies. He just does so out of courtesy.

MickyDolenz said:

MickyDolenz said:

If people had to get permission to remake songs, then a lot of people wouldn't release Christmas albums since most have the same songs. Nor would some songs become standards recorded by hundreds or thousands of singers/bands. Legally, Weird Al doesn't have to get permission to do parodies. He just does so out of courtesy.

A coutesy to some corney cover.

GaryMF said:

Under the "fair use doctrine" it is acceptable according to the US Supreme Court of 1994 in Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc. In this case the court states "Parody, like other comment and criticism, may claim fair use." This case involved the parody song of "Pretty Woman" where 2 Live Crew used the song's opening melody and changed various parts of the lyrics. The court ruled in favor of 2 Live Crew with a unanimous decision that their song was acceptable.

http://borgus.com/legal.htm

MickyDolenz said:

lwr001 said:

Got my facts reversed. It also allows snl and those type of comedy shows to use without permission

As long as the original writers are credited. If someone wants to sample a song, they would have to get permission, because they are using a recording that already exists. Al and his band re-records the music in the majority of parodies, except maybe a few of the hip hop ones. Al also does polka medleys where he doesn't change the words, but sing snippets of hits with a polka background.

laurarichardson said:

A coutesy to some corney cover.

Al basically built his career on getting permission. If he just put them out, the original acts might not like the song or think he is making fun of them, so badmouth him in the press. Like what Coolio did, although Al said he was given permission from Coolio to do Amish Paradise. Al never even records the parodies if he is turned down, becuase he said that is studio time he has to pay for and time he has to spend coming with lyrics. He said that he tells the original act what the parody is going to be about or sends a rough draft of a few lines he is going to use.

Although Al never did a Prince parody song, he did do one of his "interview" videos with him

I am aware of all of this I still think he is corny.

MickyDolenz said:

laurarichardson said:

A coutesy to some corney cover.

Al basically built his career on getting permission. If he just put them out, the original acts might not like the song or think he is making fun of them, so badmouth him in the press. Like what Coolio did, although Al said he was given permission from Coolio to do Amish Paradise. Al never even records the parodies if he is turned down, becuase he said that is studio time he has to pay for and time he has to spend coming with lyrics. He said that he tells the original act what the parody is going to be about or sends a rough draft of a few lines he is going to use.

MickyDolenz said:

Although Al never did a Prince parody song, he did do one of his "interview" videos with him

Corney, boring and an ass. What a combo.