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"Getting this statue put up will be a lot of work and you may ask yourself is it worth it? I say yes and ask you to join me in letting us work it. Together we can put white supremacy down, flip it and reverse it."

EmmaMcG said:

Empress said:

EmmaMcG said:

Putting white supremacy down is a good thing but I'm not sure about that "flip it and reverse it" part. How would black supremacy or Asian supremacy be any better? Whatever happened to people being equal? Why does one side have to reign supreme? And why Missy Elliot? What has she ever done to deserve a statue? Surely there would be better candidates for a statue.

I could not have said this better myself. There are many more deserving people of all races that would be a better candidate for this. Nothing against Missy, but I do not think she deserves a statue.

I think that people might be a bit more sympathetic to the general state of Black folks in America, if they were able to conduct the mental excercise of "flipping the script" and understanding how the general evironment would impact one's life were "you" living in such a state. At any rate, I believe that catharsis is the point of this obviously fantastic suggestion!

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We've got some very big issues remaining to be sorted on this side of the Atlantic and our general dog-eat-dog human condition.

EmmaMcG said:

Putting white supremacy down is a good thing but I'm not sure about that "flip it and reverse it" part. How would black supremacy or Asian supremacy be any better? Whatever happened to people being equal? Why does one side have to reign supreme? And why Missy Elliot? What has she ever done to deserve a statue? Surely there would be better candidates for a statue.

She sold 30 millions copies of her albums worldwide, which, I guess, makes her a hometown hero.

I like Missy Elliott but she does not deserve a statue.

Why not Harriet Tubman? Rosa Parks? Bessie Coleman? Legendary Black women who sigficantly changed culture for America.

FullLipsDotNose said:

EmmaMcG said:

Putting white supremacy down is a good thing but I'm not sure about that "flip it and reverse it" part. How would black supremacy or Asian supremacy be any better? Whatever happened to people being equal? Why does one side have to reign supreme? And why Missy Elliot? What has she ever done to deserve a statue? Surely there would be better candidates for a statue.

She sold 30 millions copies of her albums worldwide, which, I guess, makes her a hometown hero.

Ah, yes. Of course! It could be a nice tourist attraction and maybe do a bit to reshape the city's PR. If it were my statue, I'd rather it were erected posthumous. Otherwise, I'd be feeling mighty self-conscious whenever visiting my hometown seeing my likeness erected in sculpture!

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Come to think of it, gee, why can't we find/fund a statue of the illustrious entertainer Marvin Gaye for the District of Columbia to set among those existing of military heroes, politicians & presidents, and humanitarians. I don't know whether one such statue or bust can be found thare on a public site. That would be a fun thing to acknowledge the ongoing cultural heritage of the place where he was a native son.

mjscarousal said:

I like Missy Elliott but she does not deserve a statue.

Why not Harriet Tubman? Rosa Parks? Bessie Coleman? Legendary Black women who sigficantly changed culture for America.

I'm not sure if they have a connection to the town. If they had, then it would obviously be more than relevant and deserving.

FullLipsDotNose said:

mjscarousal said:

I like Missy Elliott but she does not deserve a statue.

Why not Harriet Tubman? Rosa Parks? Bessie Coleman? Legendary Black women who sigficantly changed culture for America.

I'm not sure if they have a connection to the town. If they had, then it would obviously be more than relevant and deserving.

They might not have a connection to the town but I was just simply giving examples of Black women more worthy of being honored with a statue.

EmmaMcG said:

AlexdeParis said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

EmmaMcG said:

AlexdeParis said:

I honestly can't tell if you're being serious. I'm inclined to believe you missed the joke, so I'll explain it: It's a reference to Missy's hit, "Work It," which includes the line "put my thang down, flip it, and reverse it." At the risk of being controversial (somehow), opponents of white supremacy are virtually 100% for equality, not replacing it with something else.

I got the joke, sophisticated as it was. But through the quoting of the song, the meaning of what's said is that the intent is to reverse white supremacy. Now, any moron who believes that one can be superior to another based purely on skin colour are indeed morons, but if white supremacy was indeed "flipped and reversed" then there'd be "white inferiority". Which I'm sure some other group of morons would agree with but again, we're still having the same problem of separating classes based on skin colour. Which leaves us, as one collective "human race", no better off than we are now.

Excellent post

EmmaMcG said:

AlexdeParis said:

EmmaMcG said:

I got the joke, sophisticated as it was. But through the quoting of the song, the meaning of what's said is that the intent is to reverse white supremacy. Now, any moron who believes that one can be superior to another based purely on skin colour are indeed morons, but if white supremacy was indeed "flipped and reversed" then there'd be "white inferiority". Which I'm sure some other group of morons would agree with but again, we're still having the same problem of separating classes based on skin colour. Which leaves us, as one collective "human race", no better off than we are now.

I love the sarcasm in bold (and I mean that sincerely).

I kind of agree with you. Well, I totally agree with the stupidity of believing skin color makes you superior. In a perfect world, everyone would recognize the completely innocent use of the lyric as the joke it is. Sadly, "common" sense is a misnomer, so you have a point. Maybe he should've added a winking emoticon or something?

EmmaMcG said:

Selling records doesn't entitle you to have statues made in your honour.

^ Those artists have statues not because they sold a lot of records. They made a big impact on American culture. So those aren't good examples to use. Missy Elliott has not significantly changed American culture. C'mon now

Missy Elliott's Statue.....?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

now that was funny!

who's next Jermaine Dupri?!?

Honestly, folks, there's no need to be so sanctimonious about crafting statues. All it takes to do so is the money to pay for them and the will of a population to stage a showcase for the objects. Evereybody enjoys their cultural heroes or any kind of beloved or respected person, and statues of them are on display everywhere. Heck, in the town where I live there is a bust of someone who was a well-known bum!

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This ranges a bit from the subject of replacing statues of prominent figures of the former Confederate States of America, but perhaps maybe not so much.

MD431Madcat said:

Missy Elliott's Statue.....?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

now that was funny!

who's next Jermaine Dupri?!?

Don't sleep on So So Def

mjscarousal said:

^ Those artists have statues not because they sold a lot of records. They made a big impact on American culture. So those aren't good examples to use. Missy Elliott has not significantly changed American culture. C'mon now

She has written and produced many hits for the last 2 decades.

By the way, out of those pics, I could only recognise Elvis Presley.

mjscarousal said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

EmmaMcG said:

Putting white supremacy down is a good thing but I'm not sure about that "flip it and reverse it" part. How would black supremacy or Asian supremacy be any better? Whatever happened to people being equal? Why does one side have to reign supreme? And why Missy Elliot? What has she ever done to deserve a statue? Surely there would be better candidates for a statue.

I believe this is a joke or at least I hope so. As far as supremacy in the U.S no minority group will ever beat old arrogant white people on this bender. What is surprising about this recent up tick is the number of young crying bitch boys who are a part of this movement.

No one is superior to anyone and no one owes anyone anything.

FullLipsDotNose said:

mjscarousal said:

^ Those artists have statues not because they sold a lot of records. They made a big impact on American culture. So those aren't good examples to use. Missy Elliott has not significantly changed American culture. C'mon now

She has written and produced many hits for the last 2 decades.

By the way, out of those pics, I could only recognise Elvis Presley.

Please name the many hits she has produced and if you only know Elvis that is on you. Plenty of people know who the hell B. B. King was.

Let me guess you are young.

EmmaMcG said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

She has written and produced many hits for the last 2 decades.

By the way, out of those pics, I could only recognise Elvis Presley.

I know you're young so maybe that's a valid excuse for not recognising some of these statues but I'm only 27 and I know all except one. But surely you recognised The Beatles one??

Oh yeah, four guys and one of them looks like Paul. But I'd be lost otherwise.

laurarichardson said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

She has written and produced many hits for the last 2 decades.

By the way, out of those pics, I could only recognise Elvis Presley.

Please name the many hits she has produced and if you only know Elvis that is on you. Plenty of people know who the hell B. B. King was.

Let me guess you are young.

I know who B. B. King was, I just don't recall his face nor any of his songs... Her production discography is at Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/...scography.