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Reply #90 posted 08/09/17 4:16pm

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gandorb said:

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Usher has horrible horrible management. disbelief He denies sleeping with the woman but doesn't want to deny the court documents that reveals he settled a case in which a woman accused him of giving her herpes??? Doesn't deny giving a man herpes? But he feels it's more important to deny he slept with a woman because she is not his type? nuts Usher needs to get a lawyer and settle quietly.

Maybe he was most concerned that people would think he slept with a heavy set woman. Much more important then spreading herpes, perhaps living a double life, etc. Priorities?????

He didn't think it through did he, if true...

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Reply #91 posted 08/09/17 4:40pm

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214 said:

I want the man that is accusin him to come forward, that would be interesting.

If this case goes to trial and that man gets on the stand and tells his story,Usher's career will be over.That's why I say he should just pay him off now.

Why is that? there is not crime in sleeping with men, is there any rumours about him being gay or bi?

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Reply #92 posted 08/09/17 4:41pm

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214 said:

I want the man that is accusin him to come forward, that would be interesting.

If this case goes to trial and that man gets on the stand and tells his story,Usher's career will be over.That's why I say he should just pay him off now.

Why is that? there is not crime in sleeping with men, is there any rumours about him being gay or bi?

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Reply #93 posted 08/09/17 4:46pm

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214 said:



SoulAlive said:


214 said:

I want the man that is accusin him to come forward, that would be interesting.



If this case goes to trial and that man gets on the stand and tells his story,Usher's career will be over.That's why I say he should just pay him off now.

Why is that? there is not crime in sleeping with men, is there any rumours about him being gay or bi?



In the R&B/hip-hop world,being bisexual (downlow) won't be accepted.Notice that Tevin Campbell never had another hit record after his "incident".I know it's harsh and unfair,but that's the reality shrug
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Reply #94 posted 08/09/17 5:03pm

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SoulAlive said:

214 said:

Why is that? there is not crime in sleeping with men, is there any rumours about him being gay or bi?

In the R&B/hip-hop world,being bisexual (downlow) won't be accepted.Notice that Tevin Campbell never had another hit record after his "incident".I know it's harsh and unfair,but that's the reality shrug

That is true unfortunately but if Usher had headed off these allegations publicly when a woman accused him years ago it would be nothing but rumor and innuendo.

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Reply #95 posted 08/09/17 5:03pm

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Silly of you to bring MJ up for haters to have there fun.
Why would you even bring MJ up when this is a completely different situation? Mj vehemently denied his innocence multiple times, made a video and agreed to a physical. Usher has not said not one got damn thing. He has allowed these allegations to be said for a month now.


I was responding to what SoulAlive said. Paying is the wrong way. And Michael is the perfect example. They wouldn't have tried it again, had he gone to court the first time around. Maybe he still would be around. I don't care whether you think that's silly.


but what if he had gone to court and got convicted by a jury? hmmm He chose to avoid all that by opening his wallet and honestly,that makes sense.These type of trials go on for awhile and it all becomes a media circus,with so many scandalous,embarrassing details brought up in court.It is totally understandable why a celebrity would want to avoid all that.
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Reply #96 posted 08/09/17 5:23pm

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SoulAlive said:

PatrickS77 said:
I was responding to what SoulAlive said. Paying is the wrong way. And Michael is the perfect example. They wouldn't have tried it again, had he gone to court the first time around. Maybe he still would be around. I don't care whether you think that's silly.
but what if he had gone to court and got convicted by a jury? hmmm He chose to avoid all that by opening his wallet and honestly,that makes sense.These type of trials go on for awhile and it all becomes a media circus,with so many scandalous,embarrassing details brought up in court.It is totally understandable why a celebrity would want to avoid all that.

Maybe, but now it is headed in that direction years later...

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Reply #97 posted 08/09/17 5:42pm

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PatrickS77 said:
I was responding to what SoulAlive said. Paying is the wrong way. And Michael is the perfect example. They wouldn't have tried it again, had he gone to court the first time around. Maybe he still would be around. I don't care whether you think that's silly.
but what if he had gone to court and got convicted by a jury? hmmm He chose to avoid all that by opening his wallet and honestly,that makes sense.These type of trials go on for awhile and it all becomes a media circus,with so many scandalous,embarrassing details brought up in court.It is totally understandable why a celebrity would want to avoid all that.

Yes. It's the easy way out and totally understandable, why someone would go that route, especially if you could get convicted for something you didn't do, but at the end of the day, it doesn't look good and will come back to bite you in the ass. That's what we're witnessing right now. It sends a message that there might be easy money to be made, because he rather pays than going to court.

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Reply #98 posted 08/09/17 5:59pm

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Thafuk kind of name is Quantasia? lol

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Reply #99 posted 08/09/17 6:52pm

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Thafuk kind of name is Quantasia? lol


Sounds like a "making fun of black ppls names" name. ..don't it?

Like something from a skit.
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Reply #100 posted 08/09/17 8:00pm

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connorhawke said:

Thafuk kind of name is Quantasia? lol

Sounds like a "making fun of black ppls names" name. ..don't it? Like something from a skit. [Edited 8/9/17 18:53pm]

Or Asians lol .

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Reply #101 posted 08/09/17 8:36pm

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PatrickS77 said:



SoulAlive said:


PatrickS77 said:
I was responding to what SoulAlive said. Paying is the wrong way. And Michael is the perfect example. They wouldn't have tried it again, had he gone to court the first time around. Maybe he still would be around. I don't care whether you think that's silly.

but what if he had gone to court and got convicted by a jury? hmmm He chose to avoid all that by opening his wallet and honestly,that makes sense.These type of trials go on for awhile and it all becomes a media circus,with so many scandalous,embarrassing details brought up in court.It is totally understandable why a celebrity would want to avoid all that.


Yes. It's the easy way out and totally understandable, why someone would go that route, especially if you could get convicted for something you didn't do, but at the end of the day, it doesn't look good and will come back to bite you in the ass. That's what we're witnessing right now. It sends a message that there might be easy money to be made, because he rather pays than going to court.



well,whatever he decides to do,he better do it quick! This scandal is spiraling out of control.
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Reply #102 posted 08/09/17 9:51pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

This feels more Charlie Sheenish than Michael Jacksonesque.

yeahthat nuts

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Reply #103 posted 08/09/17 10:33pm

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Usher has horrible horrible management. disbelief He denies sleeping with the woman but doesn't want to deny the court documents that reveals he settled a case in which a woman accused him of giving her herpes??? Doesn't deny giving a man herpes? But he feels it's more important to deny he slept with a woman because she is not his type? nuts Usher needs to get a lawyer and settle quietly.


I agree,it's silly for him to deny sleeping with *this* lady,but not denying the claims by the other woman and the man lol where are his lawyers and manager?! He needs some proper legal advice.
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Reply #104 posted 08/10/17 1:45am

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SoulAlive said:

mjscarousal said:

Usher has horrible horrible management. disbelief He denies sleeping with the woman but doesn't want to deny the court documents that reveals he settled a case in which a woman accused him of giving her herpes??? Doesn't deny giving a man herpes? But he feels it's more important to deny he slept with a woman because she is not his type? nuts Usher needs to get a lawyer and settle quietly.


I agree,it's silly for him to deny sleeping with *this* lady,but not denying the claims by the other woman and the man lol where are his lawyers and manager?! He needs some proper legal advice.


I don't know a damn thing about Usher except that growing up, I always thought "there's a dude that shouldn't be shaving his head, ....egg headed mf'er!"


But realistically - this hesitation is probably a result of legal consultation. If he readily admits any association with these people he's due for legal but most likely CIVIL damages.

If his preceding settlement had a non disclosure clause then anything pertinent to the prosecution could be legitimate. However if it's accessible, it could be the foundation of any claims. If you know Usher has the herp then you could consult the paperwork and CREATE an environment and account and timeline for which to press on.

IF he doesn't admit any prior association, keeping his mouth shut could be very wise. Any disclosures used in public could be used against him m

Still. Wouldn't hurt to state something to the effect of :"we will be pursuing what's in the best interest of our client Usher Raymond Eggheadondas, against these malicious, false allegations. Please understand we will maintain a strictly professional policy of silence regarding the matter, until it's appropriate legal resolution."


...or something similar and clinical.


If they wish to "strong arm " him with the threat in hopes for payouts, he'd only be inviting more trouble.

Remaining silent may allow the speculation and public interest to decline and prevent this from being a matter of public "sway"

Doubtless the prosecuting attorney is working this case either pro bono (for fame) or on a contingency basis - otherwise the standard THIRD MEANS of resolution (*keep it tied up in courts until all legal funds are exhausted by means of inflicting economic pressure) will likely win.


I think they're handling this professionally, any losses incurred if there is no PROOF the herpes is USHERS, then there is LEGALLY NO CASE.


To paraphrase SPINÄL TAP: "YOU CAN'T DUST (fingerprint) FOR VOMIT"


You can't also test for "USHERS" sores as far a I know, unless she chose not to wash something for useful extortion
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Reply #105 posted 08/10/17 1:49am

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The settled 2012 lawsuit states Usher contracted herpes in 2009 or 2010. Sharpton and the other two anonymous plaintiffs say their sexual contacts with Usher occurred after 2012.

Since his STD status was revealed a few weeks ago, Usher and his reps have remained silent on the matter, neither confirming nor denying the allegations.

Lisa Bloom says other clients have contacted her and she may file additional lawsuits against Usher on their behalf.

"other clients"? eek uh-oh

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Reply #106 posted 08/10/17 2:21am

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SoulAlive said:

mjscarousal said:

Usher has horrible horrible management. disbelief He denies sleeping with the woman but doesn't want to deny the court documents that reveals he settled a case in which a woman accused him of giving her herpes??? Doesn't deny giving a man herpes? But he feels it's more important to deny he slept with a woman because she is not his type? nuts Usher needs to get a lawyer and settle quietly.


I agree,it's silly for him to deny sleeping with *this* lady,but not denying the claims by the other woman and the man lol where are his lawyers and manager?! He needs some proper legal advice.



Usher looks guilty not because of the first settlement but because of his SILENCE and his refusal to defend himself against these serious allegations. If the settlement was false he could have just SAID that and sued! Even if it wasn't false he could have explained why he settled with a dignified response. Not saying anything is why these allegations are not going anywhere and makes him vulnerable for more people to make accusations against him(whether true or untrue). I don't know what his team is doing. It's sad to see his career end like this. He should have made a statement a month ago, it's too late to defend himself people have their minds made up and this scandal has gotten out of control. He need to sue or settle at this point and he needs to do it quickly.
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Reply #107 posted 08/10/17 2:30am

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SoulAlive said:

The settled 2012 lawsuit states Usher contracted herpes in 2009 or 2010. Sharpton and the other two anonymous plaintiffs say their sexual contacts with Usher occurred after 2012.


Since his STD status was revealed a few weeks ago, Usher and his reps have remained silent on the matter, neither confirming nor denying the allegations.


Lisa Bloom says other clients have contacted her and she may file additional lawsuits against Usher on their behalf.


"other clients"? eek uh-oh




This is going to go to trial. :disbelief:

I hope for Ushers sake they are all lying.
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Reply #108 posted 08/10/17 2:30am

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mjscarousal said:

SoulAlive said:



I agree,it's silly for him to deny sleeping with *this* lady,but not denying the claims by the other woman and the man lol where are his lawyers and manager?! He needs some proper legal advice.



Usher looks guilty not because of the first settlement but because of his SILENCE and his refusal to defend himself against these serious allegations. If the settlement was false he could have just SAID that and sued! Even if it wasn't false he could have explained why he settled with a dignified response. Not saying anything is why these allegations are not going anywhere and makes him vulnerable for more people to make accusations against him(whether true or untrue). I don't know what his team is doing. It's sad to see his career end like this. He should have made a statement a month ago, it's too late to defend himself people have their minds made up and this scandal has gotten out of control. He need to sue or settle at this point and he needs to do it quickly.
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I dont even like USHER but why would his entire career be over?
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Reply #109 posted 08/10/17 4:16am

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

mjscarousal said:
Usher looks guilty not because of the first settlement but because of his SILENCE and his refusal to defend himself against these serious allegations. If the settlement was false he could have just SAID that and sued! Even if it wasn't false he could have explained why he settled with a dignified response. Not saying anything is why these allegations are not going anywhere and makes him vulnerable for more people to make accusations against him(whether true or untrue). I don't know what his team is doing. It's sad to see his career end like this. He should have made a statement a month ago, it's too late to defend himself people have their minds made up and this scandal has gotten out of control. He need to sue or settle at this point and he needs to do it quickly. [Edited 8/10/17 2:26am]
I dont even like USHER but why would his entire career be over?

I hope you are kidding. He is getting old and his record sales and output have been poor at best. These factors along with a man saying he got herpes from Usher via a relationship are the end of the road.

There are no black openly gay RnB singers that are successully selling recorded music. This is not something that is going to change since most RnB singers have an image of being a lady's man which is the image that Usher had.

In addtion, if he did not disclouse his status he is about as scum bag level that you can go down to. I am not sure that there is any come back from this at all.

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Reply #110 posted 08/10/17 6:16am

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214 said:

SoulAlive said:

214 said: If this case goes to trial and that man gets on the stand and tells his story,Usher's career will be over.That's why I say he should just pay him off now.

Why is that? there is not crime in sleeping with men, is there any rumours about him being gay or bi?

There are very few black male singers who haven't been accused of being gay or bisexual. As far as Usher being with men, it wouldn't surprise me. Many "straight" men who are promiscuous are also sexually fluid. I have known A LOT of men like that. People are in denial and just don't like to imagine it.

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Reply #111 posted 08/10/17 6:23am

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SoulAlive said:

214 said:

I want the man that is accusin him to come forward, that would be interesting.

If this case goes to trial and that man gets on the stand and tells his story,Usher's career will be over.That's why I say he should just pay him off now.

I agree. Pay him off NOW!!! lol It's always been odd to me in the world of black music, a male singer can be gay and still have a successful career as long as he doesn't talk about it. Luther and Freddie are prime examples. Everyone knew they were gay, yet they continued to record songs about being in love with women and their female fans ate it all up like candy! falloff

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Reply #112 posted 08/10/17 6:33am

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2045RadicalMattZ said:


mjscarousal said:
Usher looks guilty not because of the first settlement but because of his SILENCE and his refusal to defend himself against these serious allegations. If the settlement was false he could have just SAID that and sued! Even if it wasn't false he could have explained why he settled with a dignified response. Not saying anything is why these allegations are not going anywhere and makes him vulnerable for more people to make accusations against him(whether true or untrue). I don't know what his team is doing. It's sad to see his career end like this. He should have made a statement a month ago, it's too late to defend himself people have their minds made up and this scandal has gotten out of control. He need to sue or settle at this point and he needs to do it quickly. [Edited 8/10/17 2:26am]

I dont even like USHER but why would his entire career be over?

I hope you are kidding. He is getting old and his record sales and output have been poor at best. These factors along with a man saying he got herpes from Usher via a relationship are the end of the road.



There are no black openly gay RnB singers that are successully selling recorded music. This is not something that is going to change since most RnB singers have an image of being a lady's man which is the image that Usher had.



In addtion, if he did not disclouse his status he is about as scum bag level that you can go down to. I am not sure that there is any come back from this at all.




Oh yeah. If you put it that way! wink

Suppose his only help is that it's a shakedown. If the initial claim is legit, there's also the possibility that these folks could be in it for the money. But I see your point. Regardless of the public's short attention span, that's something that will probably stick
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Reply #113 posted 08/10/17 8:05am

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kitbradley said:



SoulAlive said:


214 said:

I want the man that is accusin him to come forward, that would be interesting.



If this case goes to trial and that man gets on the stand and tells his story,Usher's career will be over.That's why I say he should just pay him off now.

I agree. Pay him off NOW!!! lol It's always been odd to me in the world of black music, a male singer can be gay and still have a successful career as long as he doesn't talk about it. Luther and Freddie are prime examples. Everyone knew they were gay, yet they continued to record songs about being in love with women and their female fans ate it all up like candy! falloff


--Black women were not lusting over Luther or Freddy those guys did nice love ballads not sexy songs.
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You guys (and gals) are aware that at the moment....even the original "radaronline" report is unsubstantiated?


What if the pay off or payout was to some sort of infidelity rather than a herpes claim?

Right now - nothing is 100%.

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Reply #115 posted 08/10/17 8:31am

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

You guys (and gals) are aware that at the moment....even the original "radaronline" report is unsubstantiated?


What if the pay off or payout was to some sort of infidelity rather than a herpes claim?

Right now - nothing is 100%.



That's the same thing I thought when the story was originally reported. HOWEVER, Usher has not denied the court documents nor has he sued.

Instead, he denies sleeping with a woman because she is not his type.
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Reply #116 posted 08/10/17 9:35am

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

You guys (and gals) are aware that at the moment....even the original "radaronline" report is unsubstantiated?


What if the pay off or payout was to some sort of infidelity rather than a herpes claim?

Right now - nothing is 100%.

Usher had yet to issue any statement about the orignal court document. I am not sure why anyone would pay someone 1.1 million because they were cheating with them while married to someone else.

If the doc is fake it is easy to prove and Usher should be suing Radar On line right now.

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Reply #117 posted 08/10/17 1:21pm

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Usher Herpes Lawsuit: Cel... Billboard

Celebrity Lawyer Lisa Bloom Seeks 'Justice and Accountability' in Herpes Lawsuit Against Usher: Exclusive

"I have looked at the allegations that my clients have made very carefully. There is corroboration with those claims. I believe them to be credible. I wouldn't have brought this case if I didn't think they were credible. Many people come to me with all kinds of claims and cases, most of which I reject. This is a case I took because I find them to be credible.

I don't know Usher's side of the story. I'm open to hearing it. So far, we have not heard it, other than his people saying that he doesn't like plus-sized women, which is not credible. So I'm reserving judgment. I'm not the judge and jury here. I'm the attorney for the plaintiffs and I find them credible. Some of them have photos. They have friends who saw Usher coming in into the hotel room. So there is substantial evidence here."

hmmm

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Reply #118 posted 08/10/17 4:56pm

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Again,I have to ask...

If Usher is really innocent and doesn't even have herpes (as his camp is insisting),why doesn't he just simply take an STD test,hold a press conference and present the (negative) results and move on? This scandal would be over,just like that.The fact that he hasn't already done these things indicate that he's probably guilty.
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Reply #119 posted 08/10/17 6:40pm

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SoulAlive said:

Again,I have to ask...

If Usher is really innocent and doesn't even have herpes (as his camp is insisting),why doesn't he just simply take an STD test,hold a press conference and present the (negative) results and move on? This scandal would be over,just like that.The fact that he hasn't already done these things indicate that he's probably guilty.


Usher never denied having herpes the only thing he has denied is being with the woman that was at the press conference.

This is why people think the accusations are true, he has not denied them. shrug
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