214 said:

ReddBlitz said:

namepeace said:

Several of these albums defined my 90's, but they didn't define the 90's.

As I previously stated, in what I listed was no more than what I felt in my opinion. What's considered by me as such isn't going to be celebrated or even acknowledged as such by all. Lol And it's all good!!

I understand, but that's not quite what you said.

You listed defining albums of the 90's, in your opinion. Your list looks a lot like my list of great albums of the 1990's. A relatively limited subset of the music audience, including you and me, bought and appreciate those albums. Influential as they may be, they didn't define the decade in music.

Which is why I said the original albums listed were legit choices, even though I only think 1 or 2 albums are really great albums. As much as I wished our tastes defined the 90's, the general audiences said differently.

namepeace said:

oh wow that list is so way off.. Where's Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Metallica, Faith No More, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, and i could name another 50 of them?

It's not that easy, what does that mean "define" ? how do we know for sure?

214 said:

It's not that easy, what does that mean "define"? how do we know for sure?

Easy, whatever was popular with mainstream America, sold a lot, or got a lot of Top 40 airplay. Like Michael Jackson's Thriller would be an 1980s equivalent. It was huge.

TheFman said:

oh wow that list is so way off.. Where's Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Metallica, Faith No More, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, and i could name another 50 of them?

Garth Brooks sold more than all of them

MickyDolenz said:

TheFman said:

oh wow that list is so way off.. Where's Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Metallica, Faith No More, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, and i could name another 50 of them?

Garth Brooks sold more than all of them

never heard of him, sorry.
Perhaps Julio Iglesias did also, but that doesn't make him the icon of the 90's

TheFman said:

never heard of him, sorry.
Perhaps Julio Iglesias did also, but that doesn't make him the icon of the 90's

You don't know Chris Gaines either? Why wouldn't Julio not be an icon? There's other countries besides the USA & UK. You can't say any of the acts mentioned in this thread are icons for everywhere in the world. Are the Smashing Pumpkins & Metallica relevant everywhere in Africa?

MickyDolenz said:

TheFman said:

never heard of him, sorry.
Perhaps Julio Iglesias did also, but that doesn't make him the icon of the 90's

You don't know Chris Gaines either? Why wouldn't Julio not be an icon? There's other countries besides the USA & UK. You can't say any of the acts mentioned in this thread are icons for everywhere in the world. Are the Smashing Pumpkins & Metallica relevant everywhere in Africa?

I always like Julio a lot, but his albums didn't shape any decade, yet he sold shitloads.

Chris who?

Well, in Africa, some countries apart, is probably none of yours or mine or his lists very relevant...

ReddBlitz said:

214 said:

All by blac artists... no way.

So?!! Your point?! I thought I've stated clearly that such a list was simply based on my opinion. I wasn't ever looking for it to be agreed or disagreed upon with. However, since those choose in wanting to do and say such, hey, be my guess! Still, at the end of the day, again, it's my opinion. Everyone's entitled in having one. I ain't changin' mine! Furthermore, wasn't RAP music a very big part of the '90s?! Didn't the likes of the Fugees, Lauryn Hill, and the Notorious B.I.G all have DIAMOND certified albums?! As with black artists of the '90s decade, didn't we see the same as with already mentioned TLC, as well as with Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men, Toni Braxton and Natalie Cole?! Also, wasn't some of the biggest songs of the '90s to stay atop the Billboard Hot 100 Charts for weeks at a time too R&B?! So yes, in my opinion, I felt it necessary to mention such black artists who just as well were too some of the biggest selling artists of the '90s decade. Not to mention such major influences. [Edited 7/19/17 5:51am] [Edited 7/19/17 5:53am] [Edited 7/19/17 5:56am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:19am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:20am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:25am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:27am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:29am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:31am]

Fair enough Robert.

luvsexy4all said:

not complete without mention of Symphony or Damn, Time's Up and Mechanical Animals

TTD, Living Colour and Marylin manson

SoulAlive said:

I wonder why 'The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill' is not on this list

because she's "BLAC"...

~ 214

I'm confused. Is the article talking about the best albums of the 1990s or the albums that best-defined the 1990s. Those are 2 different issues.

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I've listened to the following albums from start to finish: CrazySexyCool, Nevermind, and Ray of Light. I've heard some songs from The Chronic, The Slim Shady LP, Jagged Little Pill, Monster, and Achtung Baby.

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In terms of 90s-defining albums, Bjork, Debut should not be on this list, under any circumstances. If it's a best albums of the 90s, I can't have an opinion because I never listened to the album. Bjork was not among the 10 most popular musicians of the 90s. I've never listened to Odelay, so I don't have an opinion on it. However, I would not count Odelay as one of the most influential albums of the 90s.

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Regardless of whether it's a best-of the 90s list of 90s-defining list, there is no way that The Slim Shady LP should be above The Chronic.

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I totally agree with the choices of Nevermind, CrazySexyCool, Jagged Little Pill, The Chronic, Ray of Light, Monster, and Achtung Baby.

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I can't understand why The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill and Santana's Supernatural are not on this list.

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In terms of most influential albums of the 90s, The Bodyguard needs to be on the list, absolutely. Whitney Houston was bigger than life in the early 90s.

ReddBlitz said:

214 said:

All by blac artists... no way.

So?!! Your point?! I thought I've stated clearly that such a list was simply based on my opinion. I wasn't ever looking for it to be agreed or disagreed upon with. However, since those choose in wanting to do and say such, hey, be my guess! Still, at the end of the day, again, it's my opinion. Everyone's entitled in having one. I ain't changin' mine! Furthermore, wasn't RAP music a very big part of the '90s?! Didn't the likes of the Fugees, Lauryn Hill, and the Notorious B.I.G all have DIAMOND certified albums?! As with black artists of the '90s decade, didn't we see the same as with already mentioned TLC, as well as with Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men, Toni Braxton and Natalie Cole?! Also, wasn't some of the biggest songs of the '90s to stay atop the Billboard Hot 100 Charts for weeks at a time too R&B?! So yes, in my opinion, I felt it necessary to mention such black artists who just as well were too some of the biggest selling artists of the '90s decade. Not to mention such major influences. [Edited 7/19/17 5:51am] [Edited 7/19/17 5:53am] [Edited 7/19/17 5:56am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:19am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:20am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:25am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:27am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:29am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:31am]

Boyz II Men and Natalie Cole are good names...I didn't even think of them. Toni Braxton was popula, but I wouldn't put her above WH, BIIM, TLC, or NC.

SoulAlive said:

I wonder why 'The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill' is not on this list

I'm wondering the same.

Great list of albums. The only clunker and real sore thumb...TLC. C'mon.

MickyDolenz said:

TheFman said:

oh wow that list is so way off.. Where's Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Metallica, Faith No More, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, and i could name another 50 of them?

Garth Brooks sold more than all of them

Yeah, he should probably on the list somewhere. I really didn't know any of his songs until I went to college and lived in a small college town where I heard a lot of country music. However, I definitely knew of Garth Brooks, and that he was a mjor Country music star.

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Great list of albums. The only clunker and real sore thumb...TLC. C'mon.

You can debate the greatness/quality of CrazySexyCool, yes. You cannot debate its popularity. TLC was HUGE in the mid-90s. I consider "Waterfalls" to be my childhood anthem because it was an absolutely gigantic hit song. Few songs of the 90s were more popular than "Waterfalls," one of which was "I Will Always Love You," which was quite possibly the biggest song of the 90s.