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Thread started 04/11/03 3:09pm

WatchThemFall

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What Jazz Albums Should I Get First (I Have NO Jazz)

I just downloaded a song called "Maiden Voyage" by Herbie Hancock and realized I have absolutely no jazz whatsoever in my music collection... I think it's about time I started to get into it, what do you guys recommend for albums to start wth?
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Reply #1 posted 04/11/03 3:14pm

mltijchr

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I like "Tijuana Moods" by Charlie Mingus..
really, most anything by him (what I've heard) is quite good..

that is, of course, if you like piano-type Jazz..


Another really good 1 is "Best of Chess Jazz (Vol 1, I think).. though it seems the cd doesn't have as many songs as the cassette has (!)


also, it's hard to go wrong with Miles Davis, e.g. "Sketches of Spain" or "Bitches Brew"..


really, there is SO MUCH good jazz out there
(a lot of which I'm still learning about & getting into)
you'll likely find some good stuff to get into, & then build on..
I'll see you tonight..
in ALL MY DREAMS..
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Reply #2 posted 04/11/03 3:14pm

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Miles Davis- Doo Bop (This will ease you in gently)
Miles Davis- Kind of Blue
Anything by Stephane Grappelli


over to the true jazzheads...
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Reply #3 posted 04/11/03 3:20pm

mistermaxxx

Peep all of the Blue Note Records files from the 60's.Duke Ellington,Miles Davis,Louis Armstrong,Charles Mingus,Billie Holiday,Dianah Washington,Sarah Vaughan,Billy Ecksteine,Count basie,Crusaders,Lionel Hampton,Benny Goodman,John Coltrane,Dizzy G.Charlie Bird Parker,Donald Byrd,and just allow yourself to explore.
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Reply #4 posted 04/11/03 3:32pm

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That's too broad a question. Really depends on what type of Jazz you want. Traditional, Dixieland, Fusion? If you dig Herbie check his shit from the late 70's/ early 80's as well as "Dis Is Da Drum" from the 90's. Also along these same Jazz/Funk lines you might want to pick up some George Duke (76-81) and Stanely Clarke (School Days)
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Reply #5 posted 04/11/03 3:34pm

mistermaxxx

intha916 said:

That's too broad a question. Really depends on what type of Jazz you want. Traditional, Dixieland, Fusion? If you dig Herbie check his shit from the late 70's/ early 80's as well as "Dis Is Da Drum" from the 90's. Also along these same Jazz/Funk lines you might want to pick up some George Duke (76-81) and Stanely Clarke (School Days)
Return to Forver&Billy Cobham Fusion Vibe along with Chic Corea,Weather Report,Spiro Gyra(Misspelled)&Jaco.
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Reply #6 posted 04/11/03 3:50pm

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"Spiro Gyra(Misspelled)"

Damn now there's a group from the past I haven't thought of in ages. Props Maxxx
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Reply #7 posted 04/11/03 9:13pm

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My suggestions are some albums that most beginners can get into. I don't think these will overwhelm you:

john coltrane-a love supreme

miles davis-kind of blue

billie holiday (any compilation set)

thelonious monk-monk

ella fitzgerald & louis armstrong (i forget the titles but i think there are only 2 albums with them performing together...both are excellent!)

or you could pick up ken burns' jazz soundtrack. it is the soundtrack to ken burns' jazz history special (from about a year ago). it's very comprehensive and great for beginners. have fun!
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Reply #8 posted 04/11/03 11:27pm

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intha916 said:

That's too broad a question. Really depends on what type of Jazz you want

Gotta agree. You may be looking for something specific, and there are many different styles of jazz out there.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #9 posted 04/12/03 1:16am

TRON

Get The Complete 'In A Silent Way' sessions - Miles' best.
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Reply #10 posted 04/12/03 6:39am

ElDred

Grover Washington - Mr Magic
Andy Sheppard - Nocturnal Tourist
Both r must haves...
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Reply #11 posted 04/12/03 7:55am

Jamademus

Kind of Blue is a total must have. It's awesome and its reputation is totally justified. If U like Maiden Voyage buy that album (called erm, Maiden Voyage) it's a classic 2. Best Mingus album has 2 B Ah Um not a bad track on that one. Tread carefully with Miles if your not familier with him it can be a bit of a lottery in that he covered (or rather invented) so many genres. U might love say the above mentioned Kind of Blue and then buy Bitches Brew which is a a very sinister sounding and challenging album.I love it personally but it took me a long time 2 appreciate. Anyway I've waffled enuff happy listening
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Reply #12 posted 04/12/03 10:04am

Harlepolis

WatchThemFall said:

I just downloaded a song called "Maiden Voyage" by Herbie Hancock and realized I have absolutely no jazz whatsoever in my music collection... I think it's about time I started to get into it, what do you guys recommend for albums to start wth?


The 1st thang I wanted 2 tell you once I read the thread's title is "HERBIE HANCOCK" thats my idol when it comes 2 his keys.

Also,,get Idris Mohammed, George Benson and Billie Holiday's early 30's/late 40's recordings(esp the ones with pianist Teddy Wilson and Trumpet playa Charlie Parker).
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Reply #13 posted 04/12/03 10:44am

mistermaxxx

Harlepolis said:

WatchThemFall said:

I just downloaded a song called "Maiden Voyage" by Herbie Hancock and realized I have absolutely no jazz whatsoever in my music collection... I think it's about time I started to get into it, what do you guys recommend for albums to start wth?


The 1st thang I wanted 2 tell you once I read the thread's title is "HERBIE HANCOCK" thats my idol when it comes 2 his keys.

Also,,get Idris Mohammed, George Benson and Billie Holiday's early 30's/late 40's recordings(esp the ones with pianist Teddy Wilson and Trumpet playa Charlie Parker).
You Love yourself some Teddy Wilson I always notice that.I Love that Era of Lady Day alot my Damn Self Great Call.
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Reply #14 posted 04/12/03 10:55am

Harlepolis

mistermaxxx said:

Harlepolis said:

WatchThemFall said:

I just downloaded a song called "Maiden Voyage" by Herbie Hancock and realized I have absolutely no jazz whatsoever in my music collection... I think it's about time I started to get into it, what do you guys recommend for albums to start wth?


The 1st thang I wanted 2 tell you once I read the thread's title is "HERBIE HANCOCK" thats my idol when it comes 2 his keys.

Also,,get Idris Mohammed, George Benson and Billie Holiday's early 30's/late 40's recordings(esp the ones with pianist Teddy Wilson and Trumpet playa Charlie Parker).
You Love yourself some Teddy Wilson I always notice that.I Love that Era of Lady Day alot my Damn Self Great Call.


I've neva heard someone play that acoustic flawless and with sooo much beauty like that,,of course with the exception of Duke,,their playing is very much on point. Teddy really helped me in terms of learning the basics. See, when you wanna be a jazz pianist you gotta listen 2 these cats 1st and you should listen carefuly cuz the simple thangs in their playing are the most important parts. Hell lol I wouldn't tell nobody 2 listen 2 them carefuly cuz they can def capture yo attention one way or another.
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Reply #15 posted 04/12/03 11:01am

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The first jazzalbum I ever bought is 'L'ascenseur pour l'echaffaud' by Miles Davis. It's a movie-soundtrack and still my favourite, very smooth. I still like it even better than 'Kind of Blue'. Who likes it too here?
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Reply #16 posted 04/12/03 11:19am

mistermaxxx

Harlepolis said:

mistermaxxx said:

Harlepolis said:

WatchThemFall said:

I just downloaded a song called "Maiden Voyage" by Herbie Hancock and realized I have absolutely no jazz whatsoever in my music collection... I think it's about time I started to get into it, what do you guys recommend for albums to start wth?


The 1st thang I wanted 2 tell you once I read the thread's title is "HERBIE HANCOCK" thats my idol when it comes 2 his keys.

Also,,get Idris Mohammed, George Benson and Billie Holiday's early 30's/late 40's recordings(esp the ones with pianist Teddy Wilson and Trumpet playa Charlie Parker).
You Love yourself some Teddy Wilson I always notice that.I Love that Era of Lady Day alot my Damn Self Great Call.


I've neva heard someone play that acoustic flawless and with sooo much beauty like that,,of course with the exception of Duke,,their playing is very much on point. Teddy really helped me in terms of learning the basics. See, when you wanna be a jazz pianist you gotta listen 2 these cats 1st and you should listen carefuly cuz the simple thangs in their playing are the most important parts. Hell lol I wouldn't tell nobody 2 listen 2 them carefuly cuz they can def capture yo attention one way or another.
I Agree but Monk showed me alot as well.He showed me feel&tone
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Reply #17 posted 04/12/03 11:27am

Harlepolis

mistermaxxx said:

Harlepolis said:

mistermaxxx said:

Harlepolis said:

WatchThemFall said:

I just downloaded a song called "Maiden Voyage" by Herbie Hancock and realized I have absolutely no jazz whatsoever in my music collection... I think it's about time I started to get into it, what do you guys recommend for albums to start wth?


The 1st thang I wanted 2 tell you once I read the thread's title is "HERBIE HANCOCK" thats my idol when it comes 2 his keys.

Also,,get Idris Mohammed, George Benson and Billie Holiday's early 30's/late 40's recordings(esp the ones with pianist Teddy Wilson and Trumpet playa Charlie Parker).
You Love yourself some Teddy Wilson I always notice that.I Love that Era of Lady Day alot my Damn Self Great Call.


I've neva heard someone play that acoustic flawless and with sooo much beauty like that,,of course with the exception of Duke,,their playing is very much on point. Teddy really helped me in terms of learning the basics. See, when you wanna be a jazz pianist you gotta listen 2 these cats 1st and you should listen carefuly cuz the simple thangs in their playing are the most important parts. Hell lol I wouldn't tell nobody 2 listen 2 them carefuly cuz they can def capture yo attention one way or another.
I Agree but Monk showed me alot as well.He showed me feel&tone



Simpliesity is the MOST thang that captures my attention, thats why you see me praising Teddy everywhere.If you have these 3 qualities then you're #.1 in my book. I'm not really too deep wit Monk's stuff as I am with Teddy, but from what I know his stuff are nothing to be missed with too.

You and daddy should chill 2ghether since he's a fan too. All I could say is give me a time 2 dig into his stuff.
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Reply #18 posted 04/12/03 12:27pm

DorianGray

WatchThemFall said:"I just downloaded a song called "Maiden Voyage" by Herbie Hancock and realized I have absolutely no jazz whatsoever in my music collection... I think it's about time I started to get into it, what do you guys recommend for albums to start wth?"

U could do a lot worse than start with the "Maiden Voyage" album. If u enjoy that, u could perhaps try "Headhunters" or "Thrust".

Asides from Herbie, accessible work of outstanding quality in this genre includes "Places and Spaces"(Donald Byrd),"School Days/Live At The Greek"(Stanley Clarke),"Kind Of Blue/In A Silent Way(Miles Davis),"A Love Supreme/Giant Steps(John Coltrane),"Weather Report/Black Market"(Weather Report),"Speak No Evil/Juju"(Wayne Shorter),"Bright Size Life/Pat Metheny Group"(Pat Metheny),"Getz Gilberto"(Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto),"Time Out"(Dave Brubeck Quartet),"Artistry"(Martin Taylor),and "In A Soulful Mood"(Charlie Parker).

Other greats whose genius may greatly enhance ur quality of life include Duke Ellington, Thelonius Monk, Stephane Grappelli/Django Reinhardt, Joe Pass, Louis Armstrong, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald,and Charles Mingus.
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Reply #19 posted 04/12/03 2:56pm

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I strongly recommend:

Kind Of Blue - Miles Davis
Porgy And Bess - Miles Davis
Someday My Prince Will Come - Miles Davis
L'Ascenseur Pour L'Echaffaud - Miles Davis
Collages - Duke Ellington
Time Out - The Dave Brubeck Quartet
Straight, No Chaser - Thelonious Monk
Getz / Gilberto - Stan Getz, Joao & Astrud Gilberto

Enjoy!
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Reply #20 posted 04/12/03 3:11pm

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my recommendations:
miles davis kind of blue
miles davis '58 sessions
miles davis nefertiti
john coltrane giant steps
john coltrane lush life
john coltrane a love supreme
charles mingus mingus ah um
duke ellington live at newport
chet baker live in paris volume 2
chet baker the italian sessions
wayne shorter adam's apple
wayne shorter speak no evil
lee morgan the procrastinator
lee morgan live at the lighthouse
lee morgan taru
sonny rollins way out west
sonny rollins saxophone collosus
thelonious monk mysterioso
thelonious monk in action
art pepper smack up
art pepper + 11
shelly manne live at the blackhawk volume 1
shelly manne live at the manne hole volume 2
roy hargrove kindred souls
roy hargrove family
wallace roney village
wallace roney standard bearer
dexter gordon go
dexter gordon gettin' around
bill evans waltz for debby
bill evans sunday at the village vanguard

just to name few
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Reply #21 posted 04/12/03 4:42pm

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Are me and TRON the only people on this thread that thinks Miles' In A Silent Way is worthy???

Da horror! omg
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #22 posted 04/12/03 4:51pm

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Supernova said:

Are me and TRON the only people on this thread that thinks Miles' In A Silent Way is worthy???

Da horror! omg




no, in a silent way is cool and definitely "worthy". but, if i listed all the miles davis cds that i felt were worthy of going out and buying, my recommendation list would've included probably 125 miles pieces.

in fact i like ina silent way much better than the usually vaunted bitches brew.

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Reply #23 posted 04/12/03 5:10pm

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medoc2003 said:

Supernova said:

Are me and TRON the only people on this thread that thinks Miles' In A Silent Way is worthy???

Da horror! omg




no, in a silent way is cool and definitely "worthy". but, if i listed all the miles davis cds that i felt were worthy of going out and buying, my recommendation list would've included probably 125 miles pieces.

in fact i like ina silent way much better than the usually vaunted bitches brew.

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[This message was edited Sat Apr 12 16:53:07 PDT 2003 by medoc2003]

nod As do I.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #24 posted 04/12/03 5:37pm

mistermaxxx

Supernova said:

medoc2003 said:

Supernova said:

Are me and TRON the only people on this thread that thinks Miles' In A Silent Way is worthy???

Da horror! omg




no, in a silent way is cool and definitely "worthy". but, if i listed all the miles davis cds that i felt were worthy of going out and buying, my recommendation list would've included probably 125 miles pieces.

in fact i like ina silent way much better than the usually vaunted bitches brew.

.
[This message was edited Sat Apr 12 16:53:07 PDT 2003 by medoc2003]

nod As do I.
Bitches Brew is tighter in the 6 Disc Format because you get more feel but give Me Sketches of Spain&Jack Johnson over In a Silent Way.
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Reply #25 posted 04/12/03 6:24pm

Supernova

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mistermaxxx said:

Supernova said:

medoc2003 said:

Supernova said:

Are me and TRON the only people on this thread that thinks Miles' In A Silent Way is worthy???

Da horror! omg




no, in a silent way is cool and definitely "worthy". but, if i listed all the miles davis cds that i felt were worthy of going out and buying, my recommendation list would've included probably 125 miles pieces.

in fact i like ina silent way much better than the usually vaunted bitches brew.

.
[This message was edited Sat Apr 12 16:53:07 PDT 2003 by medoc2003]

nod As do I.
Bitches Brew is tighter in the 6 Disc Format because you get more feel but give Me Sketches of Spain&Jack Johnson over In a Silent Way.

At the same time those are all different. I think it depends on what style you prefer most. My mood dictates it usually, but In A Silent is WAY up there for me when it comes to his electric period.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #26 posted 04/12/03 7:26pm

mistermaxxx

Supernova said:

mistermaxxx said:

Supernova said:

medoc2003 said:

Supernova said:

Are me and TRON the only people on this thread that thinks Miles' In A Silent Way is worthy???

Da horror! omg




no, in a silent way is cool and definitely "worthy". but, if i listed all the miles davis cds that i felt were worthy of going out and buying, my recommendation list would've included probably 125 miles pieces.

in fact i like ina silent way much better than the usually vaunted bitches brew.

.
[This message was edited Sat Apr 12 16:53:07 PDT 2003 by medoc2003]

nod As do I.
Bitches Brew is tighter in the 6 Disc Format because you get more feel but give Me Sketches of Spain&Jack Johnson over In a Silent Way.

At the same time those are all different. I think it depends on what style you prefer most. My mood dictates it usually, but In A Silent is WAY up there for me when it comes to his electric period.
well when He had Joe Zwenul,Chic,Herbie on board yeah I love that Period.with Miles for me He is one of the few Artists where Mood&Vibe dictate what I want to Hear.I dig "In a Silent Way" but "Jack Johnson" just knocks things out the Box for me during the Electric Time period.just like "On the Corner" is a Pre-Cursor to Hip-Hop for me.depends on the Vibe.
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Reply #27 posted 04/13/03 10:30am

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Back at the chicken shack: Jimmy Smith

and basically anything from: Sonny Rollins, Coltrane, Oscar Peterson, Milt Buckner...

is all good
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Reply #28 posted 04/13/03 3:56pm

mistermaxxx

Eraserhead said:

Back at the chicken shack: Jimmy Smith

and basically anything from: Sonny Rollins, Coltrane, Oscar Peterson, Milt Buckner...

is all good
yep especially Jimmy Smith.I got stuff with Him&Wes Montgomery together&it's Slammin
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Reply #29 posted 04/14/03 1:05am

DrD

I like/love many of the suggestions above but if you really have NO jazz, then maybe you should forget about most of them.

As a first step into jazz, MILE'S KIND OF BLUE is the album. It is so beautiful and easily accessible! That's where I started about 10 years ago, and it is still one of my all-time favorites. And since it is the jazz album that sold most in jazz history, this view seems to be widely shared (including by many of the orgers above who have included it in their list0.
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