I could make an eassy out of this but here are just a few off the top of my head.

Over:
50 Cent, Eminem (but ecspeically in Detriot!), Pink, The Police, The Doors, The Clash

Under:
Neil Young, Chaka, Ozzy Osbourne, Daivd Bowie, Donna Summer, Prince (should go without saying), Pixies, Elvis Costello

I wish I could think of more overrated. I'll be back!

i forgot to mention an underrated artist...david byrne.

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

@ ooohh gurl!

And yeah, I don't think she's overrated either...

Diva said:

glad your , your smile is beautiful!

overrated-all the new rocks bands that start with "The" and these other bands who pretty much all sound the same but somehow get hype anyway


underrated-hell if i know

Over:
Beatles
Eminem
Limp Biskit
Elvis
Michael Jackson
Aretha Franklin
Beethoven
Garth Brooks
Elton John
Johnny Cash
Justin Timbershit
Jewel
Mary J. Blige

Under:
Pat Benatar
Prince
Bach
Rakim
Tracy Chapman
Maxwell
Melissa Ethridege
Cassandra Wilson
Jeff Buckley
DuranDuran
(also a majority of Female artisit period.)

And I don't necessarily despise all the over rated artist I mentioned, but I agree that Aretha is NOT the Queen of soul. Beatles,I respect them and the contribution, but their songs are better when covered byother artisits. Eminem and Justin should just DIE! They are not in any way shape or form artists!!!

Moonbeam said:

You're absolutely right; that moniker is too limiting for the impact she had and the versatility she exhibited, and the effect of every female singer afterwards. And at the same time you won't find a single person in the history of music who represents the essence of Soul Music any MORE than Aretha. I'll bet you're equally as familiar with Aretha in her prime as you were with Steeevieee.

Aretha was untouchable, P.E.R.I.O.D. Her Atlantic days are STILL untouchable, P.E.R.I.O.D. I defy anyone to listen to her box set, or her catalog from the late 60s thru about 1974 and sincerely come back with a straight face proclaiming she's overrated. ALL credibility is lost to an abyss if that is a sincere conclusion. To say one doesn't dig her music is fine, it's a matter of taste (or lack of it ), but to say she's overrated is inaccurate. Her influence can't be overrated by anyone who knows anything about it.

She's good enough for your Annie Lennox to do a duet with and have reverence for, so act like ya know, Moonie.

Supernova said:

Aretha's Box Set is Arguably the Best Box Set I Own IMHO.She covered so many styles&while you can say She fell off aftr 1977 onward aside from a Album or two&some Songs.in Her Hey Day Peak of 68-76 Aretha was on Fire.

intha916 said:

you are allowing One Album Wonder Success speak on Alicia Keys&it's way to early to say one way or the other now.at Best She is a Dime a Dozen act. as for Saadiq again Better in a Band&Or Writting&Producing for Others IMHO.He just doesn't have that "It" for a Solo Career.did you stop to think that Prince told Arsenio Hall not to show that Footage?also I didn't stutter everybody has there time in the Spotlight&folks still mention Prince but it's a New Era of Ears finding there Own Voices to Lead there Generation.

Supernova said:

I wish I had a trophy that said "damn straight" because I'd be givin it to supernova right now.

no point in trying to rate Aretha anyway, she set the curve.

mistermaxxx said:

Everything about it is like the prototype of what a defining box set should be.

Supernova said:

I Agree With you 100% matter of fact a few months back out riding my Bike in the rain while listening to "Sprits in the dark"&that track alone blew me away.You ain't Never Lied.that Box Set stays right by my side to Groove&Just reflect off to.AMEN!!

blacksatin515 said:

Amen. Some artists reach for the standard. Others set it.

Moonbeam's gettin' all rock'n'roll on this thread

underrated: Rosie Gaines.
proof: you haven't heard any of these albums: Caring, No Sweeter Love, Nightfood (w/ B.Melvin), So Fast, Better than Ever (w/ C.Ohlson), After the Rain, Only wanna be in your arms, I want you, Are you ready, Closer than close, Arrival...nuff said.

I'll never agree, but I respect your opinion.

Moonbeam said:

Translation: You're right, I'm not that familiar with Aretha's Atlantic material outside of some hit singles here and there.

Moonbeam said:

I agree w/ Eurythmics and The Cure.

New Order are actually pretty highly rated. They're just obscure and under-known.

But I think they like it that way.
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Queen of Soul...Mahalia Jackson or Marianne Anderson.

Moonbeam said:

Huh?

Supernova said:

Translation: I'll admit she's important and I'll admit that I'm not familiar with all of her material, but she is not the end all/be all of female music as she is claimed to be.

Moonbeam said:

She ain't but when you Rock her Box Set Please Tell me&supernova what you think???Hell if you need the Loot to Buy the Box I'll go half on it for you that is just how Fly&tight that Box Set is IMHO.

Moonbeam said:

Gracias.
[This message was edited Sat Apr 12 12:59:32 PDT 2003 by Supernova]

OVERRATED:

Natalie Merchant/1000 Maniacs
Pearl Jam (haven't had a decent album since Vitalogy)
Sonic Youth
Alicia Keys
India.Arie
Nelly Furtado
Macy Grey
Jeff Buckley


UNDERRATED:
Prince of course
Pet Shop Boys
Eurythmics
David Bowie - doesn't get the respect he deserves
The Cure
Tori Amos
Human Drama (nobody has heard of them - a pity)


DESERVES THEIR HIGH PRAISE:
Bob Dylan
The Beatles
Radiohead

Supernova said:

To be fair if you don't like the sound of something on first few listens you aren't likely to go play all the albums several times over or a big old boxset in the name of thorough research before opinion. After a few bars of "Natural Woman" Moonbeam is probably ready to get back to his personal "Queen of Soul" Annie Lennox...

Essence said:

I Know what you are saying but the way you said it Cracked me Up Essence.Man do you have a Side gig as a Comedian??

Essence said:

But it's not about playing all the albums to form an opinion, it's about being familiar with a recording artist outside of the radio limited hit singles, or the latter day image said artist presents.

I'm sure some people base their opinion of Prince on nothing but "Purple Rain," "Raspberry Beret," "Kiss," "1999," "Cream," "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World," and "Little Red Corvette" too, but it's not an opinion that grasps the full or accurate picture of Prince's work either. I don't own every Miles Davis album he ever released so far, but I own enough to know his impact inside of and outside of the jazz genre makes him a Mount Rushmore Artist.

to moonbeam:
regarding your choice of bob dylan as one of your overrated list.
bob dylan can't sing worth a shit, and he's neither a very good guitarist or harmonica player. but, he changed popular music in a profound way.

he melded the mindset of folk music into rock and roll. he set the tone that song writers matter, what they say matters. prior to dylan, most of rock music was about the hot girl/boy, the dance last night, etc. he changed that. there never ever would have been bands like the clash, or any band that tried to write songs of substance without someone blazing the trail. dylan blazed that trail.

he was and still is the antithesis of prefab pop stars. i've actually thought more about, listened to, and reaffirmed a lot of respect for old dylan stuff recently in context of all the prefab pop in the market like britney, american idol, etc.

i can understand someone in their 20's or even early 30's looking at dylan's catalog and wondering what the big deal is about dylan, because his songs were significantly tied to the times that they were sung. and, without that perspective he seems like just a scruffy little guy that can't sing worth a shit. i remember seeing a clash interview in which they said what they were trying to do was "sing the news". that is sort of what dylan did.

if you listen to interviews with a lot of 60's & 70's acts they rave about certain people as setting the tone and, as i said before, blazing a trail, that made their careers possible. that's what makes dylan special.

and, don't get me started about the beatles!!


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mistermaxxx said:

It'll be calling Annie Lennox "The Queen Of Soul" that cracks you up.

Supernova said:

Well while I agree with you in theory, not many people think outside the box, you dig the radio singles in the mainstream and then graduate to the LPs and the rare sides. If you don't like the "hits" your unlikely to want to spend the time exploring deeper. That goes for Prince and the Queen Of Soul.