Scorp said:

Quincy Jones Can’t Claim Abuse In Jackson Royalty Row
By Bonnie Eslinger

Law360, Los Angeles (July 7, 2017, 6:39 PM EDT) -- Days before the trial over whether Michael Jackson’s production company shortchanged Quincy Jones on $10 million-plus in royalties, a California judge ruled Friday that the 84-year-old Grammy-winning music producer can't now raise allegations that he was also the victim of financial elder abuse.
With the trial in the high-profile royalty row scheduled to start on Monday, defendant MJJ Productions Inc. sought a ruling from the court to exclude evidence and argument at trial from Jones of purported elder abuse and concealment, arguing the suit was only over causes of action for breach of contract. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael L. Stern told the parties in court on Friday that at this point in the proceedings to assert those claims would be inappropriate.

“At the present time, there’s no cause of action for elder abuse, it shouldn’t be mentioned,” the judge said.

Jones argued that the claims for financial elder abuse and concealment are based on the same evidence that will prove Jones’ breach of contract claims.

“Every claim that we would make under elder abuse is a claim that we are making under the contract claim. There’s no evidence that would be additive or irrelevant,” Jones’ attorney, Michael Hennigan of McKool Smith PC, told the court. “The contract claims deal with the taking of Quincy Jones money, the secreting of it and other corporations, the refusal to account for it, etc. All of that is part of the contract claims.”

In its filing to the court opposing MJJ Productions’ motion to exclude claims for financial elder abuse, Jones asserted that California allows a party to amend a complaint after trial if proof of a cause of action has been presented — an argument Judge Stern appeared to acknowledge on Friday.

“It’s too late to amend the complaint at this juncture,” the judge told Jones’ counsel. “You can raise another argument later, after the evidence part ... I’ll listen. They’ll oppose undoubtedly ... For now, the motion is granted as presently presented.”

A few minutes later, the judge added that when Jones appears in court, claims related to his age might not need to be underscored.

“We’re aware that plaintiff is old, he’s over 80 years old,” the judge said. “That will be self evident on its face.”

Another attorney for Jones, Mike McKool of McKool Smith PC, told the court evidence presented at trial would show that royalties due to the producer were concealed by MJJ Productions.

The judge said fraud and concealment were not part of the case.

Jones’ suit alleges that MJJ, which is controlled by Jackson's estate, and Sony cheated him out of royalties for the soundtrack to "This Is It" — the documentary about the King of Pop released just months after Jackson's 2009 death — and the Cirque du Soleil show featuring music from three Jackson albums Jones produced: "Off the Wall," "Thriller" and "Bad."

Jones worked with Jackson from 1978 to the late '80s and the three albums at issue were among Jackson's most successful, according to the producer's suit.

The 27-time Grammy winner said that with each project, he entered into a contract with MJJ for royalties on the use of the songs and to protect the songs from being edited or remixed without his express approval and supervision, according to the suit. After Jackson's death, the flurry of productions created to capitalize on the renewed interest in the King of Pop breached those contracts, Jones alleges.

MJJ released soundtracks to support the Cirque du Soleil production created in Jackson's honor and for the "This Is It" film, which went on to become the highest-grossing music documentary of all time. But MJJ distributed the albums on its own label, not through Sony, to avoid paying royalties to the producer, Jones alleges.

Additionally, the tracks were edited for the film, something Jones says is explicitly prohibited by his contract, which requires that any editing or remixing be done by Jones himself.

Jones is seeking damages for breach of contract claims, for remixing fees he claims he would have been paid if he had been engaged to remix the masters in the various projects, the "value" of the resulting producer credit and unpaid royalties on the masters he claims were copied without his consent.

Judge Stern ruled in November that Sony would be a nonparticipant in the trial on the two causes of action in Jones’ suit for breach of contract. Sony is not named as a defendant on those counts, but is named on a third count for an accounting of how much was made by MJJ, Sony and the other companies involved in distributing the soundtracks.

Last month, an attorney for Sony, Jonathan M. Sperling of Covington & Burling LLP, argued against jury instructions proposed by Jones that he said wrongly implicate Sony.

“We were more than a little bit surprised to see plaintiff's special instruction number one, which proposes to instruct the jury that they can make a finding as to whether plaintiff is a third-party beneficiary of the contracts between Michael Jackson and Sony,” Sperling said. “We don’t think that belongs.”

Quincy Jones is represented by Mike McKool, J. Michael Hennigan, Robert E. Allen and Caroline M. Walters of McKool Smith PC and Henry Gradstein and Maryann R. Marzano of Gradstein & Marzano PC.

MJJ Productions Inc is represented by Tami Kameda Sims and Zia F. Modabber of Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP and Howard Weitzman and Jonathan Steinsapir of Kinsella Weitzman Iser Kump & Aldisert LLP.

The case is Quincy Jones et al. v. MJJ Productions Inc. et al., case number BC525803, in the Superior Court of the State of California, County of Los Angeles.

--Additional reporting by Vin Gurrieri, Kat Greene and Brandon Lowrey. Editing by Alyssa Miller.

paisleypark4 said:

Scorp said:

false....

been listening to the Jackson Five and Michael Jackson since the early 1970s when I was born

I don't and never supported the false image that caused a tragedy for the ages because it brought no good at all....none

😂 I think the point is you are missing the shenanigans Quincy has been doing in the past several years. Saying some rude comments and being cruel for no apparent reason. There is truth to the senile stuff going on. I'll get you some receipts.. http://prince.org/msg/8/387632 [Edited 7/12/17 22:56pm]

I've seen worse than receipts from the past quarter century with the stuff the majority of King of Pop fans have said about anyone who has found he false image disconcerting, but they always get a pass while talking about everyone under the sun

All this senile talk, everyone if they're fortunate is going to grow old.

bboy87 said:

Quincy Jones Can’t Claim Abuse In Jackson Royalty Row
By Bonnie Eslinger

Law360, Los Angeles (July 7, 2017, 6:39 PM EDT) -- Days before the trial over whether Michael Jackson’s production company shortchanged Quincy Jones on $10 million-plus in royalties, a California judge ruled Friday that the 84-year-old Grammy-winning music producer can't now raise allegations that he was also the victim of financial elder abuse.
With the trial in the high-profile royalty row scheduled to start on Monday, defendant MJJ Productions Inc. sought a ruling from the court to exclude evidence and argument at trial from Jones of purported elder abuse and concealment, arguing the suit was only over causes of action for breach of contract. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael L. Stern told the parties in court on Friday that at this point in the proceedings to assert those claims would be inappropriate.

“At the present time, there’s no cause of action for elder abuse, it shouldn’t be mentioned,” the judge said.

Jones argued that the claims for financial elder abuse and concealment are based on the same evidence that will prove Jones’ breach of contract claims.

“Every claim that we would make under elder abuse is a claim that we are making under the contract claim. There’s no evidence that would be additive or irrelevant,” Jones’ attorney, Michael Hennigan of McKool Smith PC, told the court. “The contract claims deal with the taking of Quincy Jones money, the secreting of it and other corporations, the refusal to account for it, etc. All of that is part of the contract claims.”

In its filing to the court opposing MJJ Productions’ motion to exclude claims for financial elder abuse, Jones asserted that California allows a party to amend a complaint after trial if proof of a cause of action has been presented — an argument Judge Stern appeared to acknowledge on Friday.

“It’s too late to amend the complaint at this juncture,” the judge told Jones’ counsel. “You can raise another argument later, after the evidence part ... I’ll listen. They’ll oppose undoubtedly ... For now, the motion is granted as presently presented.”

A few minutes later, the judge added that when Jones appears in court, claims related to his age might not need to be underscored.

“We’re aware that plaintiff is old, he’s over 80 years old,” the judge said. “That will be self evident on its face.”

Another attorney for Jones, Mike McKool of McKool Smith PC, told the court evidence presented at trial would show that royalties due to the producer were concealed by MJJ Productions.

The judge said fraud and concealment were not part of the case.

Jones’ suit alleges that MJJ, which is controlled by Jackson's estate, and Sony cheated him out of royalties for the soundtrack to "This Is It" — the documentary about the King of Pop released just months after Jackson's 2009 death — and the Cirque du Soleil show featuring music from three Jackson albums Jones produced: "Off the Wall," "Thriller" and "Bad."

Jones worked with Jackson from 1978 to the late '80s and the three albums at issue were among Jackson's most successful, according to the producer's suit.

The 27-time Grammy winner said that with each project, he entered into a contract with MJJ for royalties on the use of the songs and to protect the songs from being edited or remixed without his express approval and supervision, according to the suit. After Jackson's death, the flurry of productions created to capitalize on the renewed interest in the King of Pop breached those contracts, Jones alleges.

MJJ released soundtracks to support the Cirque du Soleil production created in Jackson's honor and for the "This Is It" film, which went on to become the highest-grossing music documentary of all time. But MJJ distributed the albums on its own label, not through Sony, to avoid paying royalties to the producer, Jones alleges.

Additionally, the tracks were edited for the film, something Jones says is explicitly prohibited by his contract, which requires that any editing or remixing be done by Jones himself.

Jones is seeking damages for breach of contract claims, for remixing fees he claims he would have been paid if he had been engaged to remix the masters in the various projects, the "value" of the resulting producer credit and unpaid royalties on the masters he claims were copied without his consent.

Judge Stern ruled in November that Sony would be a nonparticipant in the trial on the two causes of action in Jones’ suit for breach of contract. Sony is not named as a defendant on those counts, but is named on a third count for an accounting of how much was made by MJJ, Sony and the other companies involved in distributing the soundtracks.

Last month, an attorney for Sony, Jonathan M. Sperling of Covington & Burling LLP, argued against jury instructions proposed by Jones that he said wrongly implicate Sony.

“We were more than a little bit surprised to see plaintiff's special instruction number one, which proposes to instruct the jury that they can make a finding as to whether plaintiff is a third-party beneficiary of the contracts between Michael Jackson and Sony,” Sperling said. “We don’t think that belongs.”

Quincy Jones is represented by Mike McKool, J. Michael Hennigan, Robert E. Allen and Caroline M. Walters of McKool Smith PC and Henry Gradstein and Maryann R. Marzano of Gradstein & Marzano PC.

MJJ Productions Inc is represented by Tami Kameda Sims and Zia F. Modabber of Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP and Howard Weitzman and Jonathan Steinsapir of Kinsella Weitzman Iser Kump & Aldisert LLP.

The case is Quincy Jones et al. v. MJJ Productions Inc. et al., case number BC525803, in the Superior Court of the State of California, County of Los Angeles.

--Additional reporting by Vin Gurrieri, Kat Greene and Brandon Lowrey. Editing by Alyssa Miller.

Thank you thank you for bringing receipts and real evidence to the table!

mjscarousal said:

LBrent said:

Now ya already know that I'm not an MJ fan, but it has always seemed to me that QJ used and exploited MJ in life ...and now it appears he's looking to capitalize on MJ in death...Not cool...

I'm so glad P never allowed QJ into his world...

Your right, your not a MJ fan so you don't know the ends and out of the MJ Estate.

Quincy was not a good friend towards Michael. However, Michael's Estate has been very shady and there might be some truth to this. They have not followed all what Michael wanted either so I am going to wait and see if Quincy's has a case. He was not credited on some of those posthumous projects so while he is a senile turd, he is right about some things.

Yes i agree, he should have been credited.

People don't understand the influence Q had on Michael's music. Without Q their wouldn't have been an Off the wall album, Thriller album and Bad album.

I'm glad MJ fans see that without Q there wouldn't have been a MJ.

nextedition said:

mjscarousal said:

Your right, your not a MJ fan so you don't know the ends and out of the MJ Estate.

Quincy was not a good friend towards Michael. However, Michael's Estate has been very shady and there might be some truth to this. They have not followed all what Michael wanted either so I am going to wait and see if Quincy's has a case. He was not credited on some of those posthumous projects so while he is a senile turd, he is right about some things.

Yes i agree, he should have been credited.

People don't understand the influence Q had on Michael's music. Without Q their wouldn't have been an Off the wall album, Thriller album and Bad album.

I'm glad MJ fans see that without Q there wouldn't have been a MJ.

Most people realize how important Q was to Mike and despite his crazy ass comments he should be compenstated per copyrights or whatever contracts he had. The estate managers simply do not want to pay him since they are complaining about the money he received already ( WTF does that have to do with anything if it was owed to him) and they have made so many bad decisions with MJ's estate this is just another example of how MJ put his trust in the wrong two guys.

I am really surprised they would go to court and admit they have not been paying because he already made too much money ( WTH came of defense or excuse is that )

As far as elder abuse that was Q and his lawyers trying to rack up another claim. Althought I do thing the MJ estate thinks Q is old and that could drag this out long enough for him to give up or die.

Very shady and ethical.

Give Quincy what he is owed. We all know Michael Jackson would not Michael Jackson had it not been for Quincy. That estate has made crazy dollars since Michael's passing and with the reissues, films, and such, it's only fair that the man is compensated fairly. This ain't got shit to do with Quincy's age; fair is fair. Give the man what's his.

If Quincy Jones was truly senile, he would have no recollection of being juked out of 30 million bucks

Quincy is the greatest producer in recorded music history and composed Michael Jackson's three most successful albums and nothing can dispute that

And its good to see the support by participants knowing Quincy deserves what he is asking for

1. What it all boils down to is the reality that most King of Pop fans dont want anyone, anyone associated with was is said to be of his estate other than those three kids/ young adults

They don't even want the original foundational support of Jackson Five fans to be part of the legacy

[Edited 7/13/17 11:54am]

Scorp said:

If Quincy Jones was truly senile, he would have no recollection of being juked out of 30 million bucks

Quincy is the greatest producer in recorded music history and composed Michael Jackson's three most successful albums and nothing can dispute that

And its good to see the support by participants knowing Quincy deserves what he is asking for

Okay how about old and difficult and saying just plain mean stuff it has nothing to do with these two buttfaces ripping him off.

paisleypark4 said:

bboy87 said:

Thank you thank you for bringing receipts and real evidence to the table!

Why are the estate managers not stopping this type of stuff. This is no doubt stolen.

http://www.mercurynews.co...nal-album/

So, you say you really love Michael Jackson. Well, super fan, here’s your chance to prove it – by buying the King of Pop’s final album.

And, no, it won’t be cheap.

But if you want to own “Michael Jackson’s personally owned copy of his final album” – featuring nine unreleased tracks – then you might still want to place a bid at the online auction house Gotta Have Rock and Roll.

The auction opens at 9 a.m. July 17.

The CD actually features 12 tracks, including three songs – “Monster,” “Breaking News” and “Stay” – that have already been released, but with different mixes.

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The unreleased numbers are “Keep Your Head Up,” “Everything’s Just Fine,” “Black Widow,” “Burn Tonight,” “All I Need,” “Water,” “Let Me Fall in Love,” “Ready to Win” and “Soldier Boy.”

All tracks are reportedly finished, with finished vocals, and of master quality.

Here are some details from the lot description:

“Very good condition. From the personal friend and personal assistant to Michael whose family was very close to Michael for many years, traveling all over the world with him. A letter of provenance is included as well as a Gotta Have Rock & Roll™ Certificate of Authenticity. Not sold with copyright.”

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paisleypark4 said:

Why are the estate managers not stopping this type of stuff. This is no doubt stolen.

http://www.mercurynews.co...nal-album/

So, you say you really love Michael Jackson. Well, super fan, here’s your chance to prove it – by buying the King of Pop’s final album.

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But if you want to own “Michael Jackson’s personally owned copy of his final album” – featuring nine unreleased tracks – then you might still want to place a bid at the online auction house Gotta Have Rock and Roll.

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The auction opens at 9 a.m. July 17.

The CD actually features 12 tracks, including three songs – “Monster,” “Breaking News” and “Stay” – that have already been released, but with different mixes.

Get more of our music coverage on Flipboard.

The unreleased numbers are “Keep Your Head Up,” “Everything’s Just Fine,” “Black Widow,” “Burn Tonight,” “All I Need,” “Water,” “Let Me Fall in Love,” “Ready to Win” and “Soldier Boy.”

All tracks are reportedly finished, with finished vocals, and of master quality.

Here are some details from the lot description:

“Very good condition. From the personal friend and personal assistant to Michael whose family was very close to Michael for many years, traveling all over the world with him. A letter of provenance is included as well as a Gotta Have Rock & Roll™ Certificate of Authenticity. Not sold with copyright.”

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These are not real Michael Jackson songs. Those are those fake Casio tracks.

Quincy is not senile. I just saw an interview with him recently and that man is just fine. It's nothing wrong with going after what's yours. I dig Michael Jackson as much as the next cat but let's be real: Michael wanted to take ALL the damn credit for producing Thriller and that wasn't fair to Quincy.

thesoulbrother said:

Quincy is not senile. I just saw an interview with him recently and that man is just fine. It's nothing wrong with going after what's yours. I dig Michael Jackson as much as the next cat but let's be real: Michael wanted to take ALL the damn credit for producing Thriller and that wasn't fair to Quincy.

This is NOT true. MJ has always given Quincy credit for his contributions and he was always paid his share. Don't blame Michael for the shady antics of his Estate executives.

nextedition said:

mjscarousal said:

Your right, your not a MJ fan so you don't know the ends and out of the MJ Estate.

Quincy was not a good friend towards Michael. However, Michael's Estate has been very shady and there might be some truth to this. They have not followed all what Michael wanted either so I am going to wait and see if Quincy's has a case. He was not credited on some of those posthumous projects so while he is a senile turd, he is right about some things.

Yes i agree, he should have been credited.

People don't understand the influence Q had on Michael's music. Without Q their wouldn't have been an Off the wall album, Thriller album and Bad album.

I'm glad MJ fans see that without Q there wouldn't have been a MJ.

He should've been credited on This Is It as that's basically a greatest hits album, but the other posthumous recordings, not sure about that.

On Michael and Xscape, they chose songs that Quincy wasn't involved in and on Bad25, they included songs Michael recorded with his own team at Hayvenhurst before he took them to Westlake

They admit they owe Q money and screwed up by not crediting him on This Is It. They just don't feel it's $30 million

Following the lunch break, Modabber concluded his opening argument by contending that Jones was properly paid, and is not owed additional money from Sony’s joint venture with Jackson.

“He didn’t get paid any of the money Michael was going to get because he didn’t do any of the work,” Modabber said. “Mr. Jones is asking for tens and tens of millions of dollars. He just wants it and he hopes you will give it to him.”

John Branca, Jackson’s longtime attorney and now the co-executor of his estate, was the first witness. Under questioning from Jones’ lawyer, Branca said the estate had offered Jones $2 million to $3 million to settle the case, which is what he believed Jones is owed.

Branca and Jones’ lawyer sparred over the definition of a “videoshow” in Jones’ contract, with Branca claiming it pertained to music videos and not to movies such as “This Is It” or life performances such as Cirque du Soleil.

“It was never our practice to cheat … Mr. Jones,” Branca testified, as the debate became heated. “You’re creating a false impression.”

Branca acknowledged that the estate had erred by failing to give Jones a credit for “This Is It.”

The trial is expected to last about three weeks. Jones will likely testify next week.

namepeace said:

It's amazing to see how contemptuous MJ fans can be of the producer who helped make MJ the icon he was, is and will be.

Like you all wouldn't want your royalties if you were in his shoes.

Let the judge and jury sort it out.

last I heard, Quincy sounded as if he was owed by the estate, I don't think it's anything underhanded or anything, I think he had everything in writing and it wasn't unreasonable. That's not why I was pissed with Quincy, I was pissed at Quincy because of what he said about MJ after he died, right after he died. He was here in his hometown of Seattle recently, lots of musicians here met him, I told some of them that I wouldn't want to meet him if I had the chance. I'm not as angry as I was, but I still think that kind of stuff says something about his real character and it's not all good.

mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

These are not real Michael Jackson songs. Those are those fake Casio tracks.

This news this morning pissed me off beyond belief. Cascios STILL trying to get money from this man. Horrible. They must have forgot their lawsuit.

PeteSilas said:

namepeace said:

It's amazing to see how contemptuous MJ fans can be of the producer who helped make MJ the icon he was, is and will be.

Like you all wouldn't want your royalties if you were in his shoes.

Let the judge and jury sort it out.

last I heard, Quincy sounded as if he was owed by the estate, I don't think it's anything underhanded or anything, I think he had everything in writing and it wasn't unreasonable. That's not why I was pissed with Quincy, I was pissed at Quincy because of what he said about MJ after he died, right after he died. He was here in his hometown of Seattle recently, lots of musicians here met him, I told some of them that I wouldn't want to meet him if I had the chance. I'm not as angry as I was, but I still think that kind of stuff says something about his real character and it's not all good.

Agree, I was very upset about his comments too but he threw MJ under the bus even during the trial.

thesoulbrother said:

Quincy is not senile. I just saw an interview with him recently and that man is just fine. It's nothing wrong with going after what's yours. I dig Michael Jackson as much as the next cat but let's be real: Michael wanted to take ALL the damn credit for producing Thriller and that wasn't fair to Quincy.

they were a great team but Michael was the star and the visionary, he really was. Quincy just polished the diamond a little. Quincy knew all the right musicians and technicians, he had the background, the experience and the talent to do some really cool stuff but the songs that made MJ, MJ made himself. In that way, he'll always get shortchanged, there will always be people who believe Q "made Michael" that's not true either. They were a great team, no doubt about it, it's too bad that it didn't stay harmonious forever.

paisleypark4 said:

mjscarousal said:

These are not real Michael Jackson songs. Those are those fake Casio tracks.

This news this morning pissed me off beyond belief. Cascios STILL trying to get money from this man. Horrible. They must have forgot their lawsuit.

Yes, its makes me very angry as well. Michael was kind and loyal to the Casio family and they turned out to not be geniune at all. Instead, they continue to exploit and use him in death. It is sad that MJ did not have any real friends or people that cared about him. You could count them on one hand.

mjscarousal said:

PeteSilas said:

last I heard, Quincy sounded as if he was owed by the estate, I don't think it's anything underhanded or anything, I think he had everything in writing and it wasn't unreasonable. That's not why I was pissed with Quincy, I was pissed at Quincy because of what he said about MJ after he died, right after he died. He was here in his hometown of Seattle recently, lots of musicians here met him, I told some of them that I wouldn't want to meet him if I had the chance. I'm not as angry as I was, but I still think that kind of stuff says something about his real character and it's not all good.

Agree, I was very upset about his comments too but he threw MJ under the bus even during the trial.

ya, that to me is all unforgivable, the gloating after his death takes the cake. or at least, i thought it was gloating, Quincy has tried to say, when he spoke about Prince and MJ that he said those things because he was angry at MJ for doing it to himself, if that's true, ok, maybe it's a little more understandable. I'm still pissed enough to say that I'm a "former fan" of Q's.

PeteSilas said:

thesoulbrother said:

Quincy is not senile. I just saw an interview with him recently and that man is just fine. It's nothing wrong with going after what's yours. I dig Michael Jackson as much as the next cat but let's be real: Michael wanted to take ALL the damn credit for producing Thriller and that wasn't fair to Quincy.

they were a great team but Michael was the star and the visionary, he really was. Quincy just polished the diamond a little. Quincy knew all the right musicians and technicians, he had the background, the experience and the talent to do some really cool stuff but the songs that made MJ, MJ made himself. In that way, he'll always get shortchanged, there will always be people who believe Q "made Michael" that's not true either. They were a great team, no doubt about it, it's too bad that it didn't stay harmonious forever.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU BRAVO EXCELLENT POST

mjscarousal said:

paisleypark4 said:

This news this morning pissed me off beyond belief. Cascios STILL trying to get money from this man. Horrible. They must have forgot their lawsuit.

Yes, its makes me very angry as well. Michael was kind and loyal to the Casio family and they turned out to not be geniune at all. Instead, they continue to exploit and use him in death. It is sad that MJ did not have any real friends or people that cared about him. You could count them on one hand.

I couldn't agree with you more, even if i wish.

214 said:

mjscarousal said:

Yes, its makes me very angry as well. Michael was kind and loyal to the Casio family and they turned out to not be geniune at all. Instead, they continue to exploit and use him in death. It is sad that MJ did not have any real friends or people that cared about him. You could count them on one hand.

I couldn't agree with you more, even if i wish.

i stopped following some of the michael news, I knew that the songs released posthumously wasn't all michael, but what else have the cascios done? Fill me in Please.

PeteSilas said:

214 said:

I couldn't agree with you more, even if i wish.

i stopped following some of the michael news, I knew that the songs released posthumously wasn't all michael, but what else have the cascios done? Fill me in Please.

Well outside of pushing those songs and copyrighting them to Sony a DAY after Michael Jackson passed away. Apparently a 'friend of Michael Jacksons' had a 'blank CD that said "Bible" in his possession containing all of the Cascio copyrighted tracks being a 'brand new michael Jackson album he finished and mastered' (on a damn cd-r). Anyway it went on auction for $50,000 yesterday. However, the item was removed from its website altogether today.

http://www.gottahaverockandroll.com/Category/Michael_Jackson-197.html

it's clearly from him as Frank Cascio is selling many items of Michael jacksons hoping for some cash

[Edited 7/13/17 15:58pm]

mjscarousal said:

paisleypark4 said:

This news this morning pissed me off beyond belief. Cascios STILL trying to get money from this man. Horrible. They must have forgot their lawsuit.

Yes, its makes me very angry as well. Michael was kind and loyal to the Casio family and they turned out to not be geniune at all. Instead, they continue to exploit and use him in death. It is sad that MJ did not have any real friends or people that cared about him. You could count them on one hand.

And the counting would be zero.

214 said:

mjscarousal said:

Yes, its makes me very angry as well. Michael was kind and loyal to the Casio family and they turned out to not be geniune at all. Instead, they continue to exploit and use him in death. It is sad that MJ did not have any real friends or people that cared about him. You could count them on one hand.

And the counting would be zero.

It didn't used to be zero

ok, thank you.

paisleypark4 said:

PeteSilas said:

i stopped following some of the michael news, I knew that the songs released posthumously wasn't all michael, but what else have the cascios done? Fill me in Please.

Well outside of pushing those songs and copyrighting them to Sony a DAY after Michael Jackson passed away. Apparently a 'friend of Michael Jacksons' had a 'blank CD that said "Bible" in his possession containing all of the Cascio copyrighted tracks being a 'brand new michael Jackson album he finished and mastered' (on a damn cd-r). Anyway it went on auction for $50,000 yesterday. However, the item was removed from its website altogether today.

http://www.gottahaverockandroll.com/Category/Michael_Jackson-197.html

it's clearly from him as Frank Cascio is selling many items of Michael jacksons hoping for some cash

[Edited 7/13/17 15:58pm]