Love this song!

Scorp said:

One of the best singles on Invincible

I don't remember this being a single. The only single in the US was You Rock My World. I got Cry as an import, mostly for the B-side. Butterflies got R&B station airplay and there was a remix with Eve, but there was not a single released to buy. I've heard Heaven Can Wait on the Quiet Storm, but not any other time on the radio.

MickyDolenz said:

Scorp said:

One of the best singles on Invincible

I don't remember this being a single. The only single in the US was You Rock My World. I got Cry as an import, mostly for the B-side. Butterflies got R&B station airplay and there was a remix with Eve, but there was not a single released to buy. I've heard Heaven Can Wait on the Quiet Storm, but not any other time on the radio.

yeah,it appears that Sony really screwed up the promotion/singles of this album."Heaven Can Wait" has 'hit single' written all over it,and so does "Whatever Happens".These should have been singles.

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Love it Used to cry to this song a long time ago.

MickyDolenz said:

Very loving touching song and emotional. I love how his voice growls and screams on the second verse, you know he wasnt playing!

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Scorp said:

It was a single in the since that it was a recorded song on the album

Going by that, then Revolution 9 by The Beatles is a single.

Fantastic song. The whole first half of Invincible from Unbreakable right through to Speechless is solid. One killer track after another. It's the middle of the album that brings the quality down on Invincible.

I love Michael's sensual and silky vocals. This was one of my favs on Invincible.

MattyJam said:

Fantastic song. The whole first half of Invincible from Unbreakable right through to Speechless is solid. One killer track after another. It's the middle of the album that brings the quality down on Invincible.

Yeah U Are My life, 2000 Watts Cry could have been left off. The quality of track like this though still make it a worthy purchase and listen along with the others.

paisleypark4 said:

MattyJam said:

Fantastic song. The whole first half of Invincible from Unbreakable right through to Speechless is solid. One killer track after another. It's the middle of the album that brings the quality down on Invincible.

Yeah U Are My life, 2000 Watts Cry could have been left off. The quality of track like this though still make it a worthy purchase and listen along with the others.

Noo! 2000 Watts is my jam!!

FullLipsDotNose said:

EmmaMcG said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

Noo! 2000 Watts is my jam!!

Everyone has their own opinions on how to improve Invincible. What songs to leave off or add on. I love the album as it is but it could have been so much better had a little more careful editing taken place. That said, I also love 2000 Watts. And, indeed, Heaven Can Wait.

For me, Invincible would've been as good as Dangerous and HIStory with this tracklist:

1. Xscape

2. Heartbreaker

3. Hollywood Tonight

4. Break of Dawn

5. Heaven Can Wait

6. You Rock My World

7. Unbreakable

8. Butterflies

9. Speechless

10. Shout

11. We've Had Enough

12. The Lost Children

13. Threatened

14. Whatever Happens

15. Much Too Soon

MattyJam said:

EmmaMcG said:

MattyJam said:

For me, Invincible would've been as good as Dangerous and HIStory with this tracklist:

1. Xscape

2. Heartbreaker

3. Hollywood Tonight

4. Break of Dawn

5. Heaven Can Wait

6. You Rock My World

7. Unbreakable

8. Butterflies

9. Speechless

10. Shout

11. We've Had Enough

12. The Lost Children

13. Threatened

14. Whatever Happens

15. Much Too Soon

Some nice additions. Add in "Let Me Let Go" and I'd be happy with that.

thats a jason malachi song, and shout is such a terrible song replace that with can't get your weight off of me

For me a great song and so sincere. I love the growls in the second verse too. So positive compare this all the "Bitch get yo ass ova here" and "Yo yo bitch I love dat pussy" type mackadocious shit in R and B and shithop at the time (Ludacris et al).

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Also it shows his voice was really at its peak by this time, Michael's smooth adult vocals really worked. Even better is Break of Dawn, that song is Princelike in its majesty.

Dilan said:

MattyJam said:

For me, Invincible would've been as good as Dangerous and HIStory with this tracklist:

1. Xscape

2. Heartbreaker

3. Hollywood Tonight

4. Break of Dawn

5. Heaven Can Wait

6. You Rock My World

7. Unbreakable

8. Butterflies

9. Speechless

10. Shout

11. We've Had Enough

12. The Lost Children

13. Threatened

14. Whatever Happens

15. Much Too Soon

Much Too Soon isn't an Invincible outtake.

bluegangsta said:

MickyDolenz said:

Scorp said:

One of the best singles on Invincible

I don't remember this being a single. The only single in the US was You Rock My World. I got Cry as an import, mostly for the B-side. Butterflies got R&B station airplay and there was a remix with Eve, but there was not a single released to buy. I've heard Heaven Can Wait on the Quiet Storm, but not any other time on the radio.

The song peaked at #72 in the rnb charts, where it stayed for 16 weeks (!).

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So it's a real single.

YRMW wasn't released neither in the US, simply because the single market was dying.

MattyJam said:

bluegangsta said:

Much Too Soon isn't an Invincible outtake.

Doesn't mean he couldn't have used it on the album. MJ worked on songs for years before eventually putting them on his albums. Little Susie dated back to 1979 in its original form. Earth Song was originally a Dangerous outtake called What About Us. There's countless examples. [Edited 6/1/17 0:07am]

Just seemed strange that that was the only outtake on that configuration from another era.

Little Suzie was written in 1979 (a version at least). Otherwise, it's actually from the Dangerous era.

Also, Earth song was originally worked on with "The B-Team" in 1986. Although, that was piano and synths only.

MattyJam said:

bluegangsta said:

Much Too Soon isn't an Invincible outtake.

Doesn't mean he couldn't have used it on the album. MJ worked on songs for years before eventually putting them on his albums. Little Susie dated back to 1979 in its original form. Earth Song was originally a Dangerous outtake called What About Us. There's countless examples. [Edited 6/1/17 0:07am]

I like your list, but would lose The Lost Children. Blue Gangsta on the other hand and Xscape would really beef the album. It would just be hot and at the very least if the Estate is lost for ideas for more product, they could put all of those songs on an album called - Michael Jackson the best of the 2000s or the last decade (As some of those songs were cut in 99). Oh and add on "What More Can I give"

SoulAlive said:

MickyDolenz said:

I don't remember this being a single. The only single in the US was You Rock My World. I got Cry as an import, mostly for the B-side. Butterflies got R&B station airplay and there was a remix with Eve, but there was not a single released to buy. I've heard Heaven Can Wait on the Quiet Storm, but not any other time on the radio.

yeah,it appears that Sony really screwed up the promotion/singles of this album."Heaven Can Wait" has 'hit single' written all over it,and so does "Whatever Happens".These should have been singles.

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[Edited 5/29/17 13:15pm]

It was MJ who volontarily screwed up the promotion of INVINCIBLE, with refusing of appearing in music videos of his own singles, and refusing to tour worldwide.

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For the 1st single, MJ wanted UNBREAKABLE with a 6 millions dollar music video, but was eventually unable to come with a solid concept. 2 directors were fired, it would have been impossible to release the music video in due time for the release of the album.

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Sony put a final deadline on MJ and they went instead with YRMW, much more mainstream than UNBREAK, so it saved the album's sales for the first weeks.

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For the 2nd single, MJ wanted BUTTERFLIES, but Sony wanted CRY. But finally, MJ refused to appear in the music videos of those 2 singles. CRY cost 1 million dollar : what a waste !

The invisibility of MJ in his own music videos made INVINCIBLE impossible to promote.

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For the 3rd single, Sony Europe went with UNBREAK, but MJ was unable to provide a music video for it. Same thing with HEAVEN CAN WAIT, for Sony America.

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The most incredible in this sad story, is that neither MJ, nor Sony wanted to release WHATEVER HAPPENS and SPEECHLESS. Too bad, because this would have been hits that people would still remember today, and it would have drawn huge sales for the album.

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MickyDolenz said:

Invincible was such a solid album.