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Thread started 07/12/17 12:09am

Shawy89

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James Brown and Prince?

Has James ever said his thoughts about albums like Purple Rain, 1999, Sign o the Times?

Did they ever jam together (apart from the famous MJ/Prince live footage)?

What did JB think of Prince in general?

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Reply #1 posted 07/12/17 12:21am

rdhull

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Shawy89 said:

Did they ever jam together (apart from the famous MJ/Prince live footage)?

Thats a myth.

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Reply #2 posted 07/12/17 11:50am

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rdhull said:[quote]



Shawy89 said:



Did they ever jam together (apart from the famous MJ/Prince live footage)?





[Edited 7/12/17 11:51am]
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Reply #3 posted 07/12/17 2:02pm

mjscarousal

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I don't think James liked Prince stage act much, jmo. Prince was very vulgar on stage back in the day so that is understandable.

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Reply #4 posted 07/12/17 2:41pm

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mjscarousal said:

At 3:56

I don't think James liked Prince stage act much, jmo. Prince was very vulgar on stage back in the day so that is understandable.

Which is funny because Prince was pretty tame in his private life and James Brown was a tryant who was violent and beat his spouses. Just goes to show all that glitters ain't gold.

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Reply #5 posted 07/12/17 2:50pm

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^ But what he did in his personal life has nothing to do with his stage act. I don't think James was demonizing his character just his stage act and Prince was not tamed in his private life. Prince was very arrogant during the 80s and a womanizer (God rest his soul). He mellowed out as he got up in age though.

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Reply #6 posted 07/12/17 3:18pm

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mjscarousal said:

^ But what he did in his personal life has nothing to do with his stage act. I don't think James was demonizing his character just his stage act and Prince was not tamed in his private life. Prince was very arrogant during the 80s and a womanizer (God rest his soul). He mellowed out as he got up in age though.

It's just very hypocritical on Brown's part. Who cares about the vulgarity of your live show if you can barely keep your private life together? You cannot act holier than thou when your own personal morality doesn't reflect your stated beliefs. He foolishly deprived himself of all credibility with such blatant hypocrisy. Yes Prince was arrogant, demanding and a cheat, but it was nowhere close to Brown's drug-addled, gun wielding, violent shenanigans. I'm an atheist, but Jesus once famously said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," and by that point Brown's cup of sins had runneth over and then some. lol

You're right that his stage act is separate from his live act, but it reeks of facade to me considering all the things he had going on, and it's hard for me to respect that. Still got love for James though.

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Reply #7 posted 07/12/17 3:27pm

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mjscarousal said:

^ But what he did in his personal life has nothing to do with his stage act. I don't think James was demonizing his character just his stage act and Prince was not tamed in his private life. Prince was very arrogant during the 80s and a womanizer (God rest his soul). He mellowed out as he got up in age though.

It's just very hypocritical on Brown's part. Who cares about the vulgarity of your live show if you can barely keep your private life together? You cannot act holier than thou when your own personal morality doesn't reflect your stated beliefs. He foolishly deprived himself of all credibility with such blatant hypocrisy. Yes Prince was arrogant, demanding and a cheat, but it was nowhere close to Brown's drug-addled, gun wielding, violent shenanigans. I'm an atheist, but Jesus once famously said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," and by that point Brown's cup of sins had runneth over and then some. lol

Although James Brown was not perfectm I don't think his comments were hyprocritical. The interviewer asked him about his views on music and entertainment and James Brown expressed his thoughts on how entertainment was changing toward more vulgarity and cussing (which WAS true). He was specifically talking about entertainment and then the interviewer brought up Prince. James Brown didn't even bring him up and just responded to the interviewers question. I don't think he was casting any stones at Prince or judging him personally. He said he liked Prince but thought his stage act was dirty and it was. I would have given anything to have seen Prince live during that period. razz lol

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Reply #8 posted 07/12/17 4:38pm

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And what's wrong with vulgarity? why is such a big deal?

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Reply #9 posted 07/12/17 4:56pm

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214 said:

And what's wrong with vulgarity? why is such a big deal?

Ask Janet Jackson. The Superbowl thing pretty much killed her music career and there were FCC lawsuits for a long time. In the 1980s, Bobby Brown was arrested for "lewd dancing" onstage. There's also Tipper Gore, which resulted in the parential advisory stickers being put on albums. Wal Mart only sells the clean versions of albums, which is either the bad words are bleeped out or the act recorded 2 versions of the same album, one with profanity and the other with different lyrics.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #10 posted 07/12/17 5:25pm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

mjscarousal said:

At 3:56

I don't think James liked Prince stage act much, jmo. Prince was very vulgar on stage back in the day so that is understandable.

Which is funny because Prince was pretty tame in his private life and James Brown was a tryant who was violent and beat his spouses. Just goes to show all that glitters ain't gold.

Funnier still.. people can seperate the man from the art. People do it with James Brown, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski and dare i say it? .. Michael Jackson.

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Reply #11 posted 07/12/17 6:30pm

mjscarousal

^Cant help yourself, I know all of you are mentally unstabled.

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Reply #12 posted 07/12/17 6:49pm

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mjscarousal said:

^Cant help yourself, I know all of you are mentally unstabled.

What? Are you saying people don't give great artists a pass? Of course they do.

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Reply #13 posted 07/12/17 8:06pm

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Marrk said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Which is funny because Prince was pretty tame in his private life and James Brown was a tryant who was violent and beat his spouses. Just goes to show all that glitters ain't gold.

Funnier still.. people can seperate the man from the art. People do it with James Brown, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski and dare i say it? .. Michael Jackson.

Yes of course we do it all the time, however, I don't necessarily see the art as separate from the individual and I tend to see them as inextricably linked. I take Jackson the eccentric with the questionable behaviour towards children alongside Jackson the musician. It's much more interesting to me that way and makes for better conversation, and I seek to understand the personality to figure out how it affected the music. However, this thread is not about Michael Jackson and I can already see this thread derailing due to the mere mention of his name. lol

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Reply #14 posted 07/12/17 8:13pm

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He liked him way back when. He wouldn't have asked him on stage back in 1983 before he was a household name.
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Reply #15 posted 07/12/17 8:47pm

mjscarousal

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mjscarousal said:

^Cant help yourself, I know all of you are mentally unstabled.

What? Are you saying people don't give great artists a pass? Of course they do.

Why did you mention MJ when this thread has NOTHING to do with him? Don't mention him anymore and stay on topic.

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