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Motown Drama - "Never Say No To Your Baby" - The Hit Pack

Okay...I'm sorry but I love record label and artist drama....

So I'm listening to Motown Complete Singles Collection and this song comes on "Never Say No To Your Baby" and I'm just in love with this odd ditty...

I search for some history of this one single wonder...and find out some DRAMA with Berry Gordy, The Contours and the lead singer of this songwriting group:

From Motown Junkie:

Back in 2010, when I was first looking into the matter, a long and boring search brought up a Youtube account claiming to be the work of Mr Dobyne himself, under the username SirDobyne (http://www.youtube.com/user/SirDobyne), and featuring a lengthy, um, “explanation” (sadly since deleted) of what happened between him and Motown. I copied down the entire contents, which were as follows. I don’t know if this really was Robert Dobyne or just some crank pretending to be him, but… Well, if it is him, the highlighted bit is pretty conclusive.

“I am Robert Dobyne. I live in Chicago,Illinois. I am on the BLACK LIST, been on the black list before the president OBAMA was born. So anything that I say is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I am nothing but old school and I am a slave to master Berry Gordy and Ralph Salsa, Charlie Koppleman, Don Ruben, Arti Ripp, Henry Allen, Don Kursner, Larry Butler, Jerry Butler, Fredrick Knight,William “Smokie” Robinson, Eugene Records (decested), Curtis Mayfield(decested), Flip Wilson (decested), Lou Rolse(decested),Jackie Wilson(decested),Robert Stunton(unknown where about), and Robert Walker( unknown where about).

All of these people and MORE that i have not thought of at this time have participated in keeping me from telling the world my story. You can hear my story and my music weekly, monthly,yearly, and to infinity. It may not be on YOUTUBE or MYSPACE but you will be able to hear my story by keeping in touch. I like to begin by saying I was a motown recording artist in the year 1964 until 65′ and during that time my incounter with Berry Gordy. I was in his office at motown and he threatend to kill me if I tried to take his company. All of this was a setup and words passed out to Mr, Gordy that I was going to take his company. He told me that Robert Stunton and Robert Walker told him that I was going to take his company. I pleeded with Mr. Gordy thatI did not know any thing about what he was saying. He put a gun to my head and told me I better tell him the truth then he said, “wait open your mouth”. Then he put the barrel of the gun in my mouth and told me he could kill me and won’t nothing be said because I sneaked in to see him and had no appointment to see him. Let me explain how I sneaked in.

After Stunton and Walker told me that they pulled the hit pack which was a group signed to soul records, I Robert Dobyne lead singer of the group the record never say no to your baby wanted to know why he took it off the air. So they told me that I had to ask Mr. Gordy not telling me they had spreaded the word that I was going to take his company. So I sat outside the house were his office used to be for now they have torn it down but back then I sat on the stoot to the front door which had a buzz in door to get inside. I sat out there for a couple of hours or so until I got the nerve to put my feet at the door to keep it from closing when someone came out. Once that happend I eased upstairs. Once up to the top and into the receptionist desk, the woman asked,” How did you get up here Dobyne…i didn’t buzz you in.”

After I was explaining to her that I wanted to see Mr. Gordy he walked to the door and asked me what are you doing here. I told him that I had to talk to him concerning our record. He said to me to give him a minute and he would see me.Now this is why he said he can kill me and no one would do a thing about it. So I went on and pleeded with him that I did not know anything about taking his company.

After Mr. Gordy knocked me around with his fist 3 to 4 times in the face he went on to tell me that I was his SLAVE and I would never be free from him and he was going to get to the bottom of this. He then told me that other companies was jealous of what he was doing with his company and they were sending all kinds of con artist and scammers to take hitsville. They tried with Mary Wells. He said to me that since she left me she has not had one hit record and thats because I know how to kill without using my hand.

Mary Wells was my slave he went on to say that Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Marve Johnson, Jimmy Ruffin, Shorty Long, The 4 tops, The Miricales, The Spinners, The Marvelettes, The Vandellas, The Supremes, and everybody that he had was his slaves and that I was going to do whatever he wanted me to do. He was going to give me one more chance to prove myself that I am not there to take his company. Then, he told me he would give me a position with the contours singing the hit song DO YOU LOVE ME because Robert (not me) the lead singer was drugging himself out and he needed to be replaced so I would be the one to replace him.

That is all I have for you at this particular moment but like I said form the top everyday, every week, every month, and every year you will hear the truth the whold truth and nothing but the truth”

:OMG:

Anyone with info on this songwriting team?

Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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Reply #1 posted 06/14/17 6:41pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Okay...I'm sorry but I love record label and artist drama....



So I'm listening to Motown Complete Singles Collection and this song comes on "Never Say No To Your Baby" and I'm just in love with this odd ditty...




I search for some history of this one single wonder...and find out some DRAMA with Berry Gordy, The Contours and the lead singer of this songwriting group:



From Motown Junkie:



Back in 2010, when I was first looking into the matter, a long and boring search brought up a Youtube account claiming to be the work of Mr Dobyne himself, under the username SirDobyne (http://www.youtube.com/user/SirDobyne), and featuring a lengthy, um, “explanation” (sadly since deleted) of what happened between him and Motown. I copied down the entire contents, which were as follows. I don’t know if this really was Robert Dobyne or just some crank pretending to be him, but… Well, if it is him, the highlighted bit is pretty conclusive.


“I am Robert Dobyne. I live in Chicago,Illinois. I am on the BLACK LIST, been on the black list before the president OBAMA was born. So anything that I say is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I am nothing but old school and I am a slave to master Berry Gordy and Ralph Salsa, Charlie Koppleman, Don Ruben, Arti Ripp, Henry Allen, Don Kursner, Larry Butler, Jerry Butler, Fredrick Knight,William “Smokie” Robinson, Eugene Records (decested), Curtis Mayfield(decested), Flip Wilson (decested), Lou Rolse(decested),Jackie Wilson(decested),Robert Stunton(unknown where about), and Robert Walker( unknown where about).

All of these people and MORE that i have not thought of at this time have participated in keeping me from telling the world my story. You can hear my story and my music weekly, monthly,yearly, and to infinity. It may not be on YOUTUBE or MYSPACE but you will be able to hear my story by keeping in touch. I like to begin by saying I was a motown recording artist in the year 1964 until 65′ and during that time my incounter with Berry Gordy. I was in his office at motown and he threatend to kill me if I tried to take his company. All of this was a setup and words passed out to Mr, Gordy that I was going to take his company. He told me that Robert Stunton and Robert Walker told him that I was going to take his company. I pleeded with Mr. Gordy thatI did not know any thing about what he was saying. He put a gun to my head and told me I better tell him the truth then he said, “wait open your mouth”. Then he put the barrel of the gun in my mouth and told me he could kill me and won’t nothing be said because I sneaked in to see him and had no appointment to see him. Let me explain how I sneaked in.

After Stunton and Walker told me that they pulled the hit pack which was a group signed to soul records, I Robert Dobyne lead singer of the group the record never say no to your baby wanted to know why he took it off the air. So they told me that I had to ask Mr. Gordy not telling me they had spreaded the word that I was going to take his company. So I sat outside the house were his office used to be for now they have torn it down but back then I sat on the stoot to the front door which had a buzz in door to get inside. I sat out there for a couple of hours or so until I got the nerve to put my feet at the door to keep it from closing when someone came out. Once that happend I eased upstairs. Once up to the top and into the receptionist desk, the woman asked,” How did you get up here Dobyne…i didn’t buzz you in.”

After I was explaining to her that I wanted to see Mr. Gordy he walked to the door and asked me what are you doing here. I told him that I had to talk to him concerning our record. He said to me to give him a minute and he would see me.Now this is why he said he can kill me and no one would do a thing about it. So I went on and pleeded with him that I did not know anything about taking his company.

After Mr. Gordy knocked me around with his fist 3 to 4 times in the face he went on to tell me that I was his SLAVE and I would never be free from him and he was going to get to the bottom of this. He then told me that other companies was jealous of what he was doing with his company and they were sending all kinds of con artist and scammers to take hitsville. They tried with Mary Wells. He said to me that since she left me she has not had one hit record and thats because I know how to kill without using my hand.

Mary Wells was my slave he went on to say that Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Marve Johnson, Jimmy Ruffin, Shorty Long, The 4 tops, The Miricales, The Spinners, The Marvelettes, The Vandellas, The Supremes, and everybody that he had was his slaves and that I was going to do whatever he wanted me to do. He was going to give me one more chance to prove myself that I am not there to take his company. Then, he told me he would give me a position with the contours singing the hit song DO YOU LOVE ME because Robert (not me) the lead singer was drugging himself out and he needed to be replaced so I would be the one to replace him.

That is all I have for you at this particular moment but like I said form the top everyday, every week, every month, and every year you will hear the truth the whold truth and nothing but the truth”


:OMG:



Anyone with info on this songwriting team?



This interesting makes Berry look like a paranoid nut but when you truck with mob I guess that can happen. Notice Kopplecrook is mentioned.
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Reply #2 posted 06/14/17 9:15pm

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laurarichardson said:

paisleypark4 said:

Anyone with info on this songwriting team?

This interesting makes Berry look like a paranoid nut but when you truck with mob I guess that can happen. Notice Kopplecrook is mentioned.

Who was he?

Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemus
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Reply #3 posted 06/15/17 3:22am

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paisleypark4 said:



laurarichardson said:


paisleypark4 said:

Anyone with info on this songwriting team?




This interesting makes Berry look like a paranoid nut but when you truck with mob I guess that can happen. Notice Kopplecrook is mentioned.


Who was he?


His name is actually Koppleman and he is the guy mixed up with the Prince estate fraud issues. See below sbout his background.
https://en.m.wikipedia.or..._Koppelman
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Reply #4 posted 06/15/17 8:21am

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laurarichardson said:

paisleypark4 said:

Who was he?

His name is actually Koppleman and he is the guy mixed up with the Prince estate fraud issues. See below sbout his background. https://en.m.wikipedia.or..._Koppelman

Aaaah he is a major player in the record industry. I didnt put two and two together.

Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemus
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Reply #5 posted 06/15/17 8:25am

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paisleypark4 said:

laurarichardson said:

paisleypark4 said: His name is actually Koppleman and he is the guy mixed up with the Prince estate fraud issues. See below sbout his background. https://en.m.wikipedia.or..._Koppelman

Aaaah he is a major player in the record industry. I didnt put two and two together.

Major player who is being exposed right now for what is really about. Seem like karma.

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