MotownSubdivision said:

If that new new song is the one I think it is (and it likely is... "Swish Swash" I think is its name) then it's about Taylor Swift. I read an article earlier where Katy actually gives the details of her and Taylor's "beef" and the rumor I heard before turned out to be true... Their little scuffle apparently has been over backup dancers of all things Read more here: https://www.google.com/am...462417/amp

Yup. i like the song even more knowing that its a diss track about Taylor Swift. It also has this performace that absolutley slayed me once again. Swift should know her dancers need to get coins one way or another...but i understand why she is upset.

I like this song actually but the cannibalism angle I cannot take. It is hinted at in the video AND the SNL performance.

I hated the Tom Petty video too.

Cinny said:

I like this song actually but the cannibalism angle I cannot take. It is hinted at in the video AND the SNL performance.

I hated the Tom Petty video too.

It's quite creepy.

"Another one in the casket" line sounds just as Another One In The Dust.

The music industry has gone to hell. Katy went to the dark side with the rest of the lumi-puppets. Disgusting! She's posessed.

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https://vigilantcitizen.c...aty-perry/

cloveringold85 said:

The music industry has gone to hell. Katy went to the dark side with the rest of the lumi-puppets. Disgusting! She's posessed.

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https://vigilantcitizen.c...aty-perry/

Aren't her parents ministers? What the crap?

cloveringold85 said:

Why is it evil? I just don't understand why they want to go that route? Why? Can't we have good music without the dark undertones?

Superfan1984 said:

cloveringold85 said:

The music industry has gone to hell. Katy went to the dark side with the rest of the lumi-puppets. Disgusting! She's posessed.

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https://vigilantcitizen.c...aty-perry/

Aren't her parents ministers? What the crap?

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Yea, but that doesn't matter nowadays.

Superfan1984 said:

Why is it evil? I just don't understand why they want to go that route? Why? Can't we have good music without the dark undertones?

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There is still some good artists out there; you just gotta seek them out, and not on mainstream/radio. I'm not a fan of Katy's, but when I see good artists gone bad, it's just so sad. A waste of talent.

This is why I don't listen to any of the mainstream stuff and haven't for years. I just listen to a lot of jazz, lots of Prince, Ella Fitzgerald, Diana Washington... I just can't with the stuff of today-

Superfan1984 said:

This is why I don't listen to any of the mainstream stuff and haven't for years. I just listen to a lot of jazz, lots of Prince, Ella Fitzgerald, Diana Washington... I just can't with the stuff of today-

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I agree; there are very few artists that I like in mainstream music nowadays. There are so many good artists that never get any recognition. And, this is what Prince always tried to do -- promote good talent.

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Oh, you have excellent taste there!!

thank you

Superfan1984 said:

I just can't with the stuff of today-

Pretty much whatever people are singing about now, people sang about then, sometimes in code or double entendres.

MickyDolenz said:

Superfan1984 said:

I just can't with the stuff of today-

Pretty much whatever people are singing about now, people sang about then, sometimes in code or double entendres.

yes, I've heard that. I listened to John Todd on Youtube- back from the 70's talking about how they put these messages in music back then, even. Honestly, sometimes I can't believe the stuff that's coming out now and that we're talking about now. Can someone please teleport me back to 1986 when the world at least seemed light and fluffy? lol.. Now we're eating people in videos.. .wtf?

Superfan1984 said:

MickyDolenz said:

Pretty much whatever people are singing about now, people sang about then, sometimes in code or double entendres.

yes, I've heard that. I listened to John Todd on Youtube- back from the 70's talking about how they put these messages in music back then, even. Honestly, sometimes I can't believe the stuff that's coming out now and that we're talking about now. Can someone please teleport me back to 1986 when the world at least seemed light and fluffy? lol.. Now we're eating people in videos.. .wtf?

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Yea, the backmasking (vocals recorded backwards) I think they call it. Led Zeppelin was famous for that. Prince did it too, and many others.

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This was SO creepy:

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Here's a whole list of some:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/...d_messages

MickyDolenz said:

Superfan1984 said:

I just can't with the stuff of today-

Pretty much whatever people are singing about now, people sang about then, sometimes in code or double entendres.

thats my point though...it used to be more subtle and veiled...now its just overt and raw... too much shock value defiles the art...

RJOrion said:

thats my point though...it used to be more subtle and veiled...now its just overt and raw... too much shock value defiles the art...

Not necessarily so, like Lucille Bogan in the 1920s & 30s. Also in the early years of the recording industry "coon songs" were really popular like they were in vaudeville. The first black recording star is George W. Johnson and his big hit was called The Laughing Coon. There's old blues & jazz songs with titles like Cocaine Blues, Weed Smoker's Dream, It's Tight Like That, etc. that were popular on jukeboxes in clubs & juke joints. There's what was called "party records" that were done by comedians like Redd Foxx in the 1950s. The original lyrics for Little Richard's Tutti Frutti that he performed before recording it were different.

People here are complaining about 'dark energy' in pop music? Maybe I'm biased because I grew up listening to some ridiculous 80's metal, but c'mon guys, it's just music

mbdtyler said:

People here are complaining about 'dark energy' in pop music? Maybe I'm biased because I grew up listening to some ridiculous 80's metal, but c'mon guys, it's just music

kids today wha?

Back in my day we used to burn down churches after listening to a bit of Burzum

jaawwnn said:

mbdtyler said:

People here are complaining about 'dark energy' in pop music? Maybe I'm biased because I grew up listening to some ridiculous 80's metal, but c'mon guys, it's just music

kids today wha?

Back in my day we used to burn down churches after listening to a bit of Burzum

Good to know those days are long gone.

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