I really love Shalamar also...in fact the whole Solar Roster is great

But I have to go with Howard & Jody years....to me the greatest albums

are 1981 - Three For Love ; 1982 - Friends ; and 1983 - The Look

however there are a few songs off Heart Break I love as well

Amneis, Don't Get Stopped In Beverly Hills, My Girl Loves Me, and of coarse

Dancing In The Sheets

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Comser said:

purplethunder3121 said:

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Isn't that the session singers from the first album with Uptown Festival?

my favorite Shalamar album is Friends.

and the only Shalamar I've ever cared about is the Howard-Jody-Jeffrey line-up

MickyDolenz said:

purplethunder3121 said:

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Isn't that the session singers from the first album with Uptown Festival?

I meant the Howard-Jody, etc line up. Didn't know there was an earlier line up.

purplethunder3121 said:

I meant the Howard-Jody, etc line up. Didn't know there was an earlier line up.

There were 3 lineups before Howard

lineup 1: session singers (The only reason that a group was formed is because Uptown Festival became a hit and the record company needed someone to go out and perform since Shalamar didn't really exist. There were a lot of fake groups made up of session singers in the disco era, and some bubblegum groups back then didn't exist either)

lineup 2: Gary, Jody, Jeffrey (They're the ones on the 1st album cover, but Gary is the only member who actually sang on the album)

lineup 3: Gerald, Jody, Jeffrey

lineup 4: Howard, Jody, Jeffrey

lineup 5: Howard, Micki, Delisa

lineup 6: Micki, Delisa, Sidney

lineup 7: Howard, Jeffrey, Carolyn (I don't think they've recorded anything, just do concerts)

lineup 8: Jody and 2 other guys (lineups 7 & 8 both exist today)

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That's still not as many members as have been in The Temptations, which had around 20 different people over their career.

MickyDolenz said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I meant the Howard-Jody, etc line up. Didn't know there was an earlier line up.

There were 3 lineups before Howard

lineup 1: session singers (The only reason that a group was formed is because Uptown Festival became a hit and the record company needed someone to go out and perform since Shalamar didn't really exist. There were a lot of fake groups made up of session singers in the disco era, and some bubblegum groups back then didn't exist either)

lineup 2: Gary, Jody, Jeffrey (They're the ones on the 1st album cover, but Gary is the only member who actually sang on the album)

lineup 3: Gerald, Jody, Jeffrey

lineup 4: Howard, Jody, Jeffrey

lineup 5: Howard, Micki, Delisa

lineup 6: Micki, Delisa, Sidney

lineup 7: Howard, Jeffrey, Carolyn (I don't think they've recorded anything, just do concerts)

lineup 8: Jody and 2 other guys (lineups 7 & 8 both exist today)

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That's still not as many members as have been in The Temptations, which had around 20 different people over their career.

Too many changes for me to keep up with! Glad you know your stuff!

Comser said:

dancerella said:

phunkdaddy said:

phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive is right. Heartbreak was bullshit.Just like the Commodores album Night shift this album sounds like the soundtrack to cheesy 80's movies.

yeah,that's exactly what it sounds like formulaic,synth-heavy music that sounds like it was composed by robots.

I too am a fan of the "classic" Shalamar lineup - Jeffrey Jody & Howard.

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still blows my mind about the "beef" between Howard & Jody - how he apparently put her down a lot & whatever other negative stuff happened. had this version stayed togther longer, they probably would have had more success (even as the later versions had "dead giveaway" & maybe 1 or 2 more hits..)

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from what I've read - mainly attributed to Jody - the "classic lineup" will never perform together again.. & that's too bad. I would probably pay a nice chunk of money to see J & J & H re-unite to do some shows.

mltijchr said:

mltijchr said:

SoulAlive said:

mltijchr said:

from what I've read - mainly attributed to Jody - the "classic lineup" will never perform together again.. & that's too bad. I would probably pay a nice chunk of money to see J & J & H re-unite to do some shows.

As much as I love the classic line-up,I am OK with them not ever doing a reunion.Jody still seems to be bitter about a lot of things and I wouldn't wanna see a reunion unless they can work it out,kiss and make up...which we all know is never gonna happen

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SoulAlive you're right - Jody does seem to be bitter, or at least very petty.

Jody can sing, she definiltey has talent.. but in my opinion Howard was the better singer.

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maybe Jody got a "big head"/more attitude after her string of hits in the mid-80s..

thanks to her "boyfriend" (at that time) our man Andre Cymone.

wouldn't surprise me at all if Jody said (or implied) something to the effect of

"yeah.. Howard dissed me didn't think I could sing & all that.. well I showed HIM"

("looking for a new love".. "real love".. she really liked puttin' "love" into all her song titles didn't she??)

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oh well.

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many of these "reunions" end up not being worth the hype or anticipation anyway..

you're also right that they were about to crossover with "dead giveaway"

yeah,she's really bitter and for a reunion to work,everyone would have to put their differences aside and become friendly again.I just don't think that Jody is willing to do that.

mltijchr said:

SoulAlive you're right - Jody does seem to be bitter, or at least very petty.

Jody can sing, she definiltey has talent.. but in my opinion Howard was the better singer.

Bananarama just did it....they can do it...seems like all is good with Howard & Jeffrey again, so Jody just needs to let it go and "Make That Move"!

Comser said:

Bananarama just did it....they can do it...seems like all is good with Howard & Jeffrey again, so Jody just needs to let it go and "Make That Move"!

Ain't gonna happen.

Fury said:

They reunited on the Babyface/LL Cool J collaboration remake of the lover in you. They've done a few things together but an all out classic lineup reunion probably isn't happening. Jody's reasons for not reuniting are well documented--everybody has moved on.

According to the Unsung ep dedicated to Howard, Jody insisted on filming her scenes for the video separate from Howard and Jeffrey. I was a bit surprised and disappointed because for awhile I thought maybe they might have put asisde whatever differences they had for just once.

MickyDolenz said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I meant the Howard-Jody, etc line up. Didn't know there was an earlier line up.

There were 3 lineups before Howard

lineup 1: session singers (The only reason that a group was formed is because Uptown Festival became a hit and the record company needed someone to go out and perform since Shalamar didn't really exist. There were a lot of fake groups made up of session singers in the disco era, and some bubblegum groups back then didn't exist either)

lineup 2: Gary, Jody, Jeffrey (They're the ones on the 1st album cover, but Gary is the only member who actually sang on the album)

lineup 3: Gerald, Jody, Jeffrey

lineup 4: Howard, Jody, Jeffrey

lineup 5: Howard, Micki, Delisa

lineup 6: Micki, Delisa, Sidney

lineup 7: Howard, Jeffrey, Carolyn (I don't think they've recorded anything, just do concerts)

lineup 8: Jody and 2 other guys (lineups 7 & 8 both exist today)

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That's still not as many members as have been in The Temptations, which had around 20 different people over their career.

Excuse me, but I still believe even this very day that the the Howard/Micki/Delisa line-up of Shalamar was so underrated. Yes, they were one of many bands/groups that were doing their take on Prince's MPLS sound. But the synth-driven funk & dance-pop direction with a occasional rock guitar solo idea was awesome.