MotownSubdivision said:

purplethunder3121 said:

What?So you think Prince was the only talented person in music? Sorry to disappoint you.

purplethunder3121 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

purplethunder3121 said: What?So you think Prince was the only talented person in music? Sorry to disappoint you.

I'm sorry but gif memes are
This is a prince fan board after all. Quick question to everyone though............ What happened to Timmy84 and R. Kelly musical lawyer Mistermaxxx ? back in 2001 I used to post with them at some MJJForums but I took a long break from the boards because so much disrespect was going on and people was fussing more than making points and I got sick of the MJ vs Prince threads (annoying) but what happen to Tim and Max?

liljojo said:

Yeah, yeah it's a Prince fansite but this is a topic in the Non-Prince section about a non-Prince artist with someone trying to discredit said artiat because he isn't Prince as if only Prince is worthy of praise.

Be a fan but don't be a fanatical snob.

MotownSubdivision said:

liljojo said:

I'm sorry but gif memes are
This is a prince fan board after all. Quick question to everyone though............ What happened to Timmy84 and R. Kelly musical lawyer Mistermaxxx ? back in 2001 I used to post with them at some MJJForums but I took a long break from the boards because so much disrespect was going on and people was fussing more than making points and I got sick of the MJ vs Prince threads (annoying) but what happen to Tim and Max?

Yeah, yeah it's a Prince fansite but this is a topic in the Non-Prince section about a non-Prince artist with someone trying to discredit said artiat because he isn't Prince as if only Prince is worthy of praise. Be a fan but don't be a fanatical snob.

I'm just joking around. Sorry if it wasn't funny. I listen to a lot of other music besides Prince, some long before I ever heard of him. I certainly don't think that he was the only artist worth listening to. BTW Timmy84 has been gone for quite a while...

purplethunder3121 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

liljojo said: Yeah, yeah it's a Prince fansite but this is a topic in the Non-Prince section about a non-Prince artist with someone trying to discredit said artiat because he isn't Prince as if only Prince is worthy of praise. Be a fan but don't be a fanatical snob.

I'm just joking around. Sorry if it wasn't funny. I listen to a lot of other music besides Prince, some long before I ever heard of him. I certainly don't think that he was the only artist worth listening to. BTW Timmy84 has been gone for quite a while...

oh wow I didn't know timmy84 was gone. Wonder what happen, hope he left and not dead.

purplethunder3121 said:

It's all good. I wasn't accusing you in particular, my original post was in reply to 2freaky4church1's post asking Prince to "forgive" us for daring to say Michael had an excellent singing voice.

That happens on here from time to time and it's just annoying how anobbish certain people get when people compliment certain artists not named Prince (namely Michael).

Okay I think it's once again time to mention the list of the world's greatest vocal ranges.

You'll notice Axl Rose came in first, Prince came in third, and Michael came in 26th.

Here's the source: https://www.concerthotels...1383085430

The Vocal Ranges ofThe World’s Greatest Singers

Compare the vocal ranges of today’s top artists with the greatest of all time.

This chart shows the highest and lowest notes each artist hit in the recording studio.

MotownSubdivision said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I'm just joking around. Sorry if it wasn't funny. I listen to a lot of other music besides Prince, some long before I ever heard of him. I certainly don't think that he was the only artist worth listening to. BTW Timmy84 has been gone for quite a while...

It's all good. I wasn't accusing you in particular, my original post was in reply to 2freaky4church1's post asking Prince to "forgive" us for daring to say Michael had an excellent singing voice. That happens on here from time to time and it's just annoying how anobbish certain people get when people compliment certain artists not named Prince (namely Michael).

I grew up with MJ as a kid since the J-5 days so I certainly don't think that. Both MJ and Prince were amazingly talented. I simply don't understand why there is a derogatory comparison of the two. Never did. There's room for both in the pantheon of musical legends...

Pokeno4Money said:

To be fair, having a wider range doesn't necessarily mean one is a better singer, just that they've shown to have a wider range.

I'm not trying to say Michael was a better singer than Prince but that's the way I see it (in regards to range making a singer). One could argue that someone is a better vocalist for having a wider range than someone else, however.

Any how, interesting to see this list and certain names on it, especially in comparison to where others are. Where is Stevie?

Also is this really in order from widest range to narrowest? They just said they compiled a list but didn't state anything about the organization.
[Edited 5/12/17 13:48pm]

purplethunder3121 said:

I agree. If only some people realized that and weren't so insecure.

Prince and Mike shared strong similarities but they were in almost different lanes musically and that doesn't necessarily make one better than the other since both individually have contributed a great deal to many things music and non-music alike. No reason someone can't love both equally but many people see fit to have to put one down to bring the other up.

MotownSubdivision said:

To be fair, having a wider range doesn't necessarily mean one is a better singer, just that they've shown to have a wider range. I'm not trying to say Michael was a better singer than Prince but that's the way I see it (in regards to range making a singer). One could argue that someone is a better vocalist for having a wider range than someone else, however. Any how, interesting to see this list and certain names on it, especially in comparison to where others are. Where is Stevie? Also is this really in order from widest range to narrowest? They just said they compiled a list but didn't state anything about the organization. [Edited 5/12/17 13:48pm]

Agreed, wider range doesn't necessarily mean better singer. However the subject of this thread is vocal range.

Yes, the list I copied and pasted here was sorted by vocal range - widest on down. The website also gives the option of sorting by highest notes on down, and lowest notes on down (up?).

Good question about Stevie, he's E2 to F#6 which would place him (I think) between Brian Wilson and Neil Young.

Pokeno4Money said:

Okay I think it's once again time to mention the list of the world's greatest vocal ranges.

You'll notice Axl Rose came in first, Prince came in third, and Michael came in 26th.

Here's the source: https://www.concerthotels...1383085430

To create this piece, we took the 100 Greatest Singers of All Time as compiled by Rolling Stone magazine in 2008. To this list, we added some of today's top singers including the nominees for top male and female artist at the Billboard Music Awards 2014. We cross-referenced the resulting list with vocal range data curated by The Range Place. We included all of the singers on the list for whom the data was readily available.

The Vocal Ranges ofThe World’s Greatest Singers

Compare the vocal ranges of today’s top artists with the greatest of all time.

This chart shows the highest and lowest notes each artist hit in the recording studio.

• Axl Rose♫ F1: There Was a Time♫ B♭6: Ain't It FunF1 - B♭6
• Mariah Carey♫ F2: Sweetheart♫ G7: EmotionsF2 - G7
• Prince♫ E2: Daddy Pop♫ B6: GodE2 - B6
• Steven Tyler♫ D2: St John♫ E6: CrazyD2 - E6
• James Brown♫ E♭2: Peace in the World♫ E6: Funky President (People It's Bad)E♭2 - E6
• Marvin Gaye♫ D2: Easy Living♫ E♭6: Flyin HighD2 - E♭6
• Christina Aguilera♫ C3: I Got Trouble♫ C#7: The Christmas SongC3 - C#7
• David Bowie♫ G1: I Took a Trip on a Gemini Spacecraft♫ G#5: Lady Grinning SoulG1 - G#5
• Paul McCartney♫ B1: Nothing Too Much Just Out of Sight♫ B5: Money (That's What I Want)B1 - B5
• Thom Yorke♫ E2: Skip Divided♫ E6: JustE2 - E6
• Freddie Mercury♫ F2: All Dead All Dead♫ E6: It's LateF2 - E6
• Elvis Presley♫ B1: Such a Night♫ A5: Mystery TrainB1 - A5
• John Lennon♫ B1: You Know My Name (Look Up The Number)♫ A5: Dizzy Miss LizzyB1 - A5
• Elton John♫ E2: Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters♫ D6: Social DiseaseE2 - D6
• Barry White♫ F#1: Low Rider♫ E♭5: Sho You RightF#1 - E♭5
• Tina Turner♫ B2: There'll Always Be Music♫ G6: River Deep Mountain HighB2 - G6
• Roger Daltrey♫ B1: Mirror Door♫ G5: New SongB1 - G5
• Jeff Buckley♫ G2: The Boy With the Thorn in His Side♫ E6: Gunshot GlitterG2 - E6
• Bruce Springsteen♫ E♭2: The Last Carnival♫ B5: Born in the USAE♭2 - B5
• Tom Waits♫ B♭1: Earth Died Screaming♫ F5: Heart Attack and VineB♭1 - F5
• Bono♫ C#2: Your Blue Room♫ G#5: Silver and GoldC#2 - G#5
• Beyoncé♫ A2: Party♫ E6: Happy FaceA2 - E6
• Jim Morrison♫ E2: Black Polished Chrome♫ B♭5: Hello, I Love YouE2 - B♭5
• Robert Plant♫ E2: Calling to You♫ A5: Black DogE2 - A5
• Mick Jagger♫ E2: Love Is Strong♫ A5: Start Me UpE2 - A5
• Michael Jackson♫ G#2: Dangerous♫ C#6: Smooth CriminalG#2 - C#6
• Nina Simone♫ E2: Ne Me Quitte Pas♫ A5: StopE2 - A5
• Steve Winwood♫ A2: Dimples♫ D6: Heaven Is In Your MindA2 - D6
• Buddy Holly♫ D2: Ain't Got No Home♫ G5: Ready TeddyD2 - G5
• Iggy Pop♫ B1: New York City♫ E5: Down on the StreetB1 - E5
• Miley Cyrus♫ B2: We Can't Stop♫ E6: Just a GirlB2 - E6
• Justin Timberlake♫ F#2: FutureSex/LoveSound♫ B5: More Than A FeelingF#2 - B5
• Bob Dylan♫ C#2: Not Dark Yet♫ F5: Talkin' Hava Negeilah BluesC#2 - F5
• Kurt Cobain♫ C#2: Low Rider♫ F5: BlewC#2 - F5
• Paul Rodgers♫ E2: Warboys♫ G#5: Catch a TrainE2 - G#5
• Kelly Clarkson♫ E♭3: All I Ever Wanted♫ G6: HonestlyE♭3 - G6
• Aretha Franklin♫ G2: I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me)♫ B5: ThinkG2 - B5
• Annie Lennox♫ G2: Coloured Bedspread♫ B5: There Must Be An AngelG2 - B5
• Jackie Wilson♫ A2: No More Goodbyes♫ C6: Funky BroadwayA2 - C6
• Lou Reed♫ D2: My Name Is Mok♫ F5: Rock & RollD2 - F5
• Eminem♫ D2: Spacebound♫ F5: Not AfraidD2 - F5
• Steve Perry♫ F#2: Can't Stop♫ A5: Homemade LoveF#2 - A5
• Rihanna♫ B2: Te Amo♫ C#6: Nobody's BusinessB2 - C#6
• Ray Charles♫ G#2: Unchain My Heart♫ B♭5: I'm Going Down To The RiverG#2 - B♭5
• Bob Marley♫ A2: Buffalo Soldier♫ B5: Wake Up & LiveA2 - B5
• Brian Wilson♫ F2: Shortenin' Bread♫ G5: Monkey's UncleF2 - G5
• Neil Young♫ E2: Fork in the Road♫ F5: Heavy LoveE2 - F5
• Lady Gaga♫ B♭2: Sexxx Dreams♫ B5: Fancy PantsB♭2 - B5
• Lana Del Rey♫ C3: Blue Velvet♫ C#6: ColaC3 - C#6
• Roy Orbison♫ E2: Nite Life♫ E5: Indian WeddingE2 - E5
• Janis Joplin♫ B2: Mercedes Benz♫ B5: Try (Just a Little Harder)B2 - B5
• Lorde♫ G#2: A World Alone♫ G#5: Buzzcut SeasonG#2 - G#5
• Whitney Houston♫ C#3: I Learned From The Best (Acapella)♫ C6: I Wanna Dance with SomebodyC#3 - C6
• Rod Stewart♫ C#3: I've Got You Under My Skin♫ C6: People Get ReadyC#3 - C6
• John Fogerty♫ G2: California Blues♫ F#5: Travelin' BandG2 - F#5
• Bruno Mars♫ B♭2: Runaway Baby♫ A5: GorillaB♭2 - A5
• Adele♫ C3: He Won't Go♫ B5: Melt My Heart to StoneC3 - B5
• Björk♫ E3: Pluto♫ D6: ScatterheartE3 - D6
• Dolly Parton♫ E3: Backwoods Barbie♫ D6: Mule Skinner BluesE3 - D6
• Joe Cocker♫ B2: Forever Changed♫ A5: Summer in the CityB2 - A5
• Johnny Cash♫ B1: Daddy Sang Bass♫ G#4: Blue Suede ShoesB1 - G#4
• David Ruffin♫ E2: Rainy Night in Georgia♫ C5: I Saw You When You Met HerE2 - C5
• Van Morrison♫ E2: The Days Before Rock and Roll♫ C5: Cyprus AvenueE2 - C5
• Chuck Berry♫ E2: I Got A Booking♫ C5: Too Pooped To PopE2 - C5
• Alicia Keys♫ B♭2: How To Save A Life♫ F#5: Another Way To DieB♭2 - F#5
• Dusty Springfield♫ D3: Love Shine Down♫ B♭5: I Found a WayD3 - B♭5
• Joni Mitchell♫ C#3: No Apologies♫ A5: Car On A HillC#3 - A5
• Katy Perry♫ D3: Damn♫ B♭5: Hummingbird HeartbeatD3 - B♭5
• Smokey Robinson♫ C3: One Time♫ G5: My Baby Changes Like The WeatherC3 - G5
• Otis Redding♫ B2: Change Gonna Come♫ F5: A Woman, A Lover, A FriendB2 - F5
• Stevie Nicks♫ B2: God's Garden♫ E5: Sisters of the MoonB2 - E5
• Jerry Lee Lewis♫ G#2: Green Green Grass of Home♫ C5: Great Balls of FireG#2 - C5
• Justin Bieber♫ A2: Out of Town Girl♫ C#5: BoyfriendA2 - C#5
• Sam Cooke♫ A2: I'm Walking Behind You♫ C5: Bring It On Home To MeA2 - C5
• Karen Carpenter♫ D3: Song for You♫ F5: I’ll Never Fall In Love AgainD3 - F5
• Taylor Swift♫ E3: Begin Again♫ F#5: You Belong With MeE3 - F#5
• Luke Bryan♫ A2: You Make Me Want To♫ A4: Over The RiverA2 - A4

This list is false. Even Axl Rose came out and sad it was false.

Falsetto and exclamations are not apart of your range.

[Edited 5/12/17 19:11pm]

Chancellor said:

Had he been Pushed years ago I think Justin Bieber could have sang all of young Michael's songs...Justin is a 1st Tenor like Michael and I think he could do justice by some of Mike's later work as well...

I know y'all think I'm playing but I am very serious...Justin sings a lot of Pop crap but the young man has a nice singing voice...

Do you mean it? This might offend so many Jackson's fans.

MotownSubdivision said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Okay I think it's once again time to mention the list of the world's greatest vocal ranges.

You'll notice Axl Rose came in first, Prince came in third, and Michael came in 26th.

Here's the source: https://www.concerthotels...1383085430

To create this piece, we took the 100 Greatest Singers of All Time as compiled by Rolling Stone magazine in 2008. To this list, we added some of today's top singers including the nominees for top male and female artist at the Billboard Music Awards 2014. We cross-referenced the resulting list with vocal range data curated by The Range Place. We included all of the singers on the list for whom the data was readily available.

The Vocal Ranges ofThe World’s Greatest Singers

Compare the vocal ranges of today’s top artists with the greatest of all time.

This chart shows the highest and lowest notes each artist hit in the recording studio.

• Axl Rose♫ F1: There Was a Time♫ B♭6: Ain't It FunF1 - B♭6
• Mariah Carey♫ F2: Sweetheart♫ G7: EmotionsF2 - G7
• Prince♫ E2: Daddy Pop♫ B6: GodE2 - B6
• Steven Tyler♫ D2: St John♫ E6: CrazyD2 - E6
• James Brown♫ E♭2: Peace in the World♫ E6: Funky President (People It's Bad)E♭2 - E6
• Marvin Gaye♫ D2: Easy Living♫ E♭6: Flyin HighD2 - E♭6
• Christina Aguilera♫ C3: I Got Trouble♫ C#7: The Christmas SongC3 - C#7
• David Bowie♫ G1: I Took a Trip on a Gemini Spacecraft♫ G#5: Lady Grinning SoulG1 - G#5
• Paul McCartney♫ B1: Nothing Too Much Just Out of Sight♫ B5: Money (That's What I Want)B1 - B5
• Thom Yorke♫ E2: Skip Divided♫ E6: JustE2 - E6
• Freddie Mercury♫ F2: All Dead All Dead♫ E6: It's LateF2 - E6
• Elvis Presley♫ B1: Such a Night♫ A5: Mystery TrainB1 - A5
• John Lennon♫ B1: You Know My Name (Look Up The Number)♫ A5: Dizzy Miss LizzyB1 - A5
• Elton John♫ E2: Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters♫ D6: Social DiseaseE2 - D6
• Barry White♫ F#1: Low Rider♫ E♭5: Sho You RightF#1 - E♭5
• Tina Turner♫ B2: There'll Always Be Music♫ G6: River Deep Mountain HighB2 - G6
• Roger Daltrey♫ B1: Mirror Door♫ G5: New SongB1 - G5
• Jeff Buckley♫ G2: The Boy With the Thorn in His Side♫ E6: Gunshot GlitterG2 - E6
• Bruce Springsteen♫ E♭2: The Last Carnival♫ B5: Born in the USAE♭2 - B5
• Tom Waits♫ B♭1: Earth Died Screaming♫ F5: Heart Attack and VineB♭1 - F5
• Bono♫ C#2: Your Blue Room♫ G#5: Silver and GoldC#2 - G#5
• Beyoncé♫ A2: Party♫ E6: Happy FaceA2 - E6
• Jim Morrison♫ E2: Black Polished Chrome♫ B♭5: Hello, I Love YouE2 - B♭5
• Robert Plant♫ E2: Calling to You♫ A5: Black DogE2 - A5
• Mick Jagger♫ E2: Love Is Strong♫ A5: Start Me UpE2 - A5
• Michael Jackson♫ G#2: Dangerous♫ C#6: Smooth CriminalG#2 - C#6
• Nina Simone♫ E2: Ne Me Quitte Pas♫ A5: StopE2 - A5
• Steve Winwood♫ A2: Dimples♫ D6: Heaven Is In Your MindA2 - D6
• Buddy Holly♫ D2: Ain't Got No Home♫ G5: Ready TeddyD2 - G5
• Iggy Pop♫ B1: New York City♫ E5: Down on the StreetB1 - E5
• Miley Cyrus♫ B2: We Can't Stop♫ E6: Just a GirlB2 - E6
• Justin Timberlake♫ F#2: FutureSex/LoveSound♫ B5: More Than A FeelingF#2 - B5
• Bob Dylan♫ C#2: Not Dark Yet♫ F5: Talkin' Hava Negeilah BluesC#2 - F5
• Kurt Cobain♫ C#2: Low Rider♫ F5: BlewC#2 - F5
• Paul Rodgers♫ E2: Warboys♫ G#5: Catch a TrainE2 - G#5
• Kelly Clarkson♫ E♭3: All I Ever Wanted♫ G6: HonestlyE♭3 - G6
• Aretha Franklin♫ G2: I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me)♫ B5: ThinkG2 - B5
• Annie Lennox♫ G2: Coloured Bedspread♫ B5: There Must Be An AngelG2 - B5
• Jackie Wilson♫ A2: No More Goodbyes♫ C6: Funky BroadwayA2 - C6
• Lou Reed♫ D2: My Name Is Mok♫ F5: Rock & RollD2 - F5
• Eminem♫ D2: Spacebound♫ F5: Not AfraidD2 - F5
• Steve Perry♫ F#2: Can't Stop♫ A5: Homemade LoveF#2 - A5
• Rihanna♫ B2: Te Amo♫ C#6: Nobody's BusinessB2 - C#6
• Ray Charles♫ G#2: Unchain My Heart♫ B♭5: I'm Going Down To The RiverG#2 - B♭5
• Bob Marley♫ A2: Buffalo Soldier♫ B5: Wake Up & LiveA2 - B5
• Brian Wilson♫ F2: Shortenin' Bread♫ G5: Monkey's UncleF2 - G5
• Neil Young♫ E2: Fork in the Road♫ F5: Heavy LoveE2 - F5
• Lady Gaga♫ B♭2: Sexxx Dreams♫ B5: Fancy PantsB♭2 - B5
• Lana Del Rey♫ C3: Blue Velvet♫ C#6: ColaC3 - C#6
• Roy Orbison♫ E2: Nite Life♫ E5: Indian WeddingE2 - E5
• Janis Joplin♫ B2: Mercedes Benz♫ B5: Try (Just a Little Harder)B2 - B5
• Lorde♫ G#2: A World Alone♫ G#5: Buzzcut SeasonG#2 - G#5
• Whitney Houston♫ C#3: I Learned From The Best (Acapella)♫ C6: I Wanna Dance with SomebodyC#3 - C6
• Rod Stewart♫ C#3: I've Got You Under My Skin♫ C6: People Get ReadyC#3 - C6
• John Fogerty♫ G2: California Blues♫ F#5: Travelin' BandG2 - F#5
• Bruno Mars♫ B♭2: Runaway Baby♫ A5: GorillaB♭2 - A5
• Adele♫ C3: He Won't Go♫ B5: Melt My Heart to StoneC3 - B5
• Björk♫ E3: Pluto♫ D6: ScatterheartE3 - D6
• Dolly Parton♫ E3: Backwoods Barbie♫ D6: Mule Skinner BluesE3 - D6
• Joe Cocker♫ B2: Forever Changed♫ A5: Summer in the CityB2 - A5
• Johnny Cash♫ B1: Daddy Sang Bass♫ G#4: Blue Suede ShoesB1 - G#4
• David Ruffin♫ E2: Rainy Night in Georgia♫ C5: I Saw You When You Met HerE2 - C5
• Van Morrison♫ E2: The Days Before Rock and Roll♫ C5: Cyprus AvenueE2 - C5
• Chuck Berry♫ E2: I Got A Booking♫ C5: Too Pooped To PopE2 - C5
• Alicia Keys♫ B♭2: How To Save A Life♫ F#5: Another Way To DieB♭2 - F#5
• Dusty Springfield♫ D3: Love Shine Down♫ B♭5: I Found a WayD3 - B♭5
• Joni Mitchell♫ C#3: No Apologies♫ A5: Car On A HillC#3 - A5
• Katy Perry♫ D3: Damn♫ B♭5: Hummingbird HeartbeatD3 - B♭5
• Smokey Robinson♫ C3: One Time♫ G5: My Baby Changes Like The WeatherC3 - G5
• Otis Redding♫ B2: Change Gonna Come♫ F5: A Woman, A Lover, A FriendB2 - F5
• Stevie Nicks♫ B2: God's Garden♫ E5: Sisters of the MoonB2 - E5
• Jerry Lee Lewis♫ G#2: Green Green Grass of Home♫ C5: Great Balls of FireG#2 - C5
• Justin Bieber♫ A2: Out of Town Girl♫ C#5: BoyfriendA2 - C#5
• Sam Cooke♫ A2: I'm Walking Behind You♫ C5: Bring It On Home To MeA2 - C5
• Karen Carpenter♫ D3: Song for You♫ F5: I’ll Never Fall In Love AgainD3 - F5
• Taylor Swift♫ E3: Begin Again♫ F#5: You Belong With MeE3 - F#5
• Luke Bryan♫ A2: You Make Me Want To♫ A4: Over The RiverA2 - A4

To be fair, having a wider range doesn't necessarily mean one is a better singer, just that they've shown to have a wider range. I'm not trying to say Michael was a better singer than Prince but that's the way I see it (in regards to range making a singer). One could argue that someone is a better vocalist for having a wider range than someone else, however. Any how, interesting to see this list and certain names on it, especially in comparison to where others are. Where is Stevie? Also is this really in order from widest range to narrowest? They just said they compiled a list but didn't state anything about the organization. [Edited 5/12/17 13:48pm]

I was asking the same to myself. What a shock to see Bieber in this list.

It's not even just Stevie, where is Patti Labelle?

You can't have Taylor Swift on this list but not Patti (or Stevie).