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Reply #30 posted 04/17/17 7:25am

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^^The funny or ironic thing is that the same Janet fans who were hellbent on claiming that Michael's kids are not his and never can be his, because they appear white, will now swear up and down that there is no way that the kid is not Janet's son and that it means nothing that he appears white. Kinda like upon Prince's death the Prince fans had to eat their own words they uttered, when Michael died. I guess Karma's a bitch.

being that janet husband isnt white who care what people has to say janet knows and thats what matters everybody seen the picsof her pregnunt




That was not my point. The point is how she is being treated differently than Michael.




Uh?
As soon as Janet posted this picture I saw people saying sh*t like "Oh that ain't her baby cuz he too white" or "Oh she pulled a MICHAEL JACKSON!". There's even a video on YouTube with the caption "Janet Jackson finally got what she always wanted... A WHITE baby. She is not being treated differently.

Another thing.... MJ fans seem to forget is that Mark Lester and other white male "friends" of Michael's have come out saying that Michael asked them for their SPERM!!!! So it's not just the fact that his kids don't look like him.... It's all of the other stuff in the background that make people think that. Janet has never been married to a white man. She married a biracial man, a Mexican man, and an Arab man. And in between those she dated black men. Michael was married twice both to times to white women. So if some people are giving her the benefit of the doubt it's because she hasn't shown an infatuation with having white kids. That's plain and simply.[
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Reply #31 posted 04/17/17 7:33am

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PatrickS77 said:



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PatrickS77 said:


^^The funny or ironic thing is that the same Janet fans who were hellbent on claiming that Michael's kids are not his and never can be his, because they appear white, will now swear up and down that there is no way that the kid is not Janet's son and that it means nothing that he appears white. Kinda like upon Prince's death the Prince fans had to eat their own words they uttered, when Michael died. I guess Karma's a bitch.

being that janet husband isnt white who care what people has to say janet knows and thats what matters everybody seen the picsof her pregnunt




That was not my point. The point is how she is being treated differently than Michael.




Uh?
As soon as Janet posted this picture I saw people saying sh*t like "Oh that ain't her baby cuz he too white" or "Oh she pulled a MICHAEL JACKSON!". There's even a video on YouTube with the caption "Janet Jackson finally got what she always wanted... A WHITE baby. She is not being treated differently.

Another thing.... MJ fans seem to forget is that Mark Lester and other white male "friends" of Michael's have come out saying that Michael asked them for their SPERM!!!! So it's not just the fact that his kids don't look like him.... It's all of the other stuff in the background that make people think that. Janet has never been married to a white man. She married a biracial man, a Mexican man, and an Arab man. And in between those she dated black men. Michael was married twice both to times to white women. So if some people are giving her the benefit of the doubt it's because she hasn't shown an infatuation with having white kids. That's plain and simply.


Bullshit! Janet fans are giving her the benefit of the doubt, because she is JANET! Plain and simple. Even if Janet had married a white man and the baby had looked as white as her baby does now, you and other fans would have still made excuses for her. From the comments that I have read from other forums, people are saying this baby is not Janet's because he is too white. I believe that the baby is hers, just as I believe Michael's children are his. FTR, Janet only dated one black man, Jermaine Dupree.Btw, why the hell would Michael want another man's sperm when that can be proven by DNA? Do you actually think Michael would risk his legacy to another man to claim his children? Some of you don't use common sense. Just saying. Neither of Michael's children looked as white as Janet's baby and he was married to a BLOND, WHITE woman.
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Reply #32 posted 04/17/17 7:55am

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BlackCat1985 said:




Uh?
As soon as Janet posted this picture I saw people saying sh*t like "Oh that ain't her baby cuz he too white" or "Oh she pulled a MICHAEL JACKSON!". There's even a video on YouTube with the caption "Janet Jackson finally got what she always wanted... A WHITE baby. She is not being treated differently.

Another thing.... MJ fans seem to forget is that Mark Lester and other white male "friends" of Michael's have come out saying that Michael asked them for their SPERM!!!! So it's not just the fact that his kids don't look like him.... It's all of the other stuff in the background that make people think that. Janet has never been married to a white man. She married a biracial man, a Mexican man, and an Arab man. And in between those she dated black men. Michael was married twice both to times to white women. So if some people are giving her the benefit of the doubt it's because she hasn't shown an infatuation with having white kids. That's plain and simply.


Bullshit! Janet fans are giving her the benefit of the doubt, because she is JANET! Plain and simple. Even if Janet had married a white man and the baby had looked as white as her baby does now, you and other fans would have still made excuses for her. From the comments that I have read from other forums, people are saying this baby is not Janet's because he is too white. I believe that the baby is hers, just as I believe Michael's children are his. FTR, Janet only dated one black man, Jermaine Dupree.Btw, why the hell would Michael want another man's sperm when that can be proven by DNA? Do you actually think Michael would risk his legacy to another man to claim his children? Some of you don't use common sense. Just saying. Neither of Michael's children looked as white as Janet's baby and he was married to a BLOND, WHITE woman.



The fact that Janet did not marry are have a child with a white man already says she wasn't trying to have a white looking child. And Janet has dated more than one black man. Todd Bridges, QTip, (and some may count )Bobby Brown were all black. And yes I do think Michael would risk his legacy to another man why else would he ask for their SPERM? And I didn't pull that one out of my ass. I have actually watched Mark Lester, Miko Brando, and Arnold Klien say that sh*t. I guess their all lying tho.
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Reply #33 posted 04/17/17 8:12am

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Back to the usual BS. confused

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Reply #34 posted 04/17/17 8:17am

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Bullshit! Janet fans are giving her the benefit of the doubt, because she is JANET! Plain and simple. Even if Janet had married a white man and the baby had looked as white as her baby does now, you and other fans would have still made excuses for her. From the comments that I have read from other forums, people are saying this baby is not Janet's because he is too white. I believe that the baby is hers, just as I believe Michael's children are his. FTR, Janet only dated one black man, Jermaine Dupree.Btw, why the hell would Michael want another man's sperm when that can be proven by DNA? Do you actually think Michael would risk his legacy to another man to claim his children? Some of you don't use common sense. Just saying. Neither of Michael's children looked as white as Janet's baby and he was married to a BLOND, WHITE woman.



The fact that Janet did not marry are have a child with a white man already says she wasn't trying to have a white looking child. And Janet has dated more than one black man. Todd Bridges, QTip, (and some may count )Bobby Brown were all black. And yes I do think Michael would risk his legacy to another man why else would he ask for their SPERM? And I didn't pull that one out of my ass. I have actually watched Mark Lester, Miko Brando, and Arnold Klien say that sh*t. I guess their all lying tho.


The bottom line is that Janet's son looks WHITER than Michael's children and you still believe he is hers. I believe that he IS her son also. Just as I believe Micharl's children are his. WE are just pointing out the hypocrisy of people like you. Btw, maybe I missed something, however, I have never seen an interview where Miko Brando mentioned anything about a sperm. Yes, I believe Mark Lester was lying when he said Paris is his daughter and I believe Arnold Klein was lying. Unless DNA proves otherwise-Prince, Paris and Blanket(Michael Jackson II)-are Michael's biological children. Just as Eissan is Janet's child; albeit he is WHITER than white.
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Reply #35 posted 04/17/17 8:36am

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hold up....hold up...are there people here who really think that Paris, Prince, and Blanket, are MJs biological children????....you cant be serious....BWHAHAHAHAHAHA



BlackCat1985 said:

PatrickS77 said:

That was not my point. The point is how she is being treated differently than Michael.

Uh? As soon as Janet posted this picture I saw people saying sh*t like "Oh that ain't her baby cuz he too white" or "Oh she pulled a MICHAEL JACKSON!". There's even a video on YouTube with the caption "Janet Jackson finally got what she always wanted... A WHITE baby. She is not being treated differently. Another thing.... MJ fans seem to forget is that Mark Lester and other white male "friends" of Michael's have come out saying that Michael asked them for their SPERM!!!! So it's not just the fact that his kids don't look like him.... It's all of the other stuff in the background that make people think that. Janet has never been married to a white man. She married a biracial man, a Mexican man, and an Arab man. And in between those she dated black men. Michael was married twice both to times to white women. So if some people are giving her the benefit of the doubt it's because she hasn't shown an infatuation with having white kids. That's plain and simply.


That is not the point. The point is that the very same people, who swore up and down that those kids could never be Michael's, are now saying that there is no question that the kid is not Janet's kid. And really, stop your arrogance.

As for the other thing, opportunists will say whatever it takes to get free press. And people were saying that they are not his kids long before anyone crawled out of the woodwork to talk about sperm donation. They didn't dare do that while Michael was alive. I wonder why that is so.

Oh, how stupid of me. Wissam and Rene are black. Right. Why didn't I see that? rolleyes Saying that they are mexican and/or arabic is a smokesscreen, as both are not a none-white or it's own race (but really, let's not get into that!). They are light and not black, so the same thing people say about Michael, could be said about her, however stupid that may be.

Really, what you say just proves my point. Thank you.

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Reply #36 posted 04/17/17 9:06am

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The fact that Janet did not marry are have a child with a white man already says she wasn't trying to have a white looking child. And Janet has dated more than one black man. Todd Bridges, QTip, (and some may count )Bobby Brown were all black. And yes I do think Michael would risk his legacy to another man why else would he ask for their SPERM? And I didn't pull that one out of my ass. I have actually watched Mark Lester, Miko Brando, and Arnold Klien say that sh*t. I guess their all lying tho.


The bottom line is that Janet's son looks WHITER than Michael's children and you still believe he is hers. I believe that he IS her son also. Just as I believe Micharl's children are his. WE are just pointing out the hypocrisy of people like you. Btw, maybe I missed something, however, I have never seen an interview where Miko Brando mentioned anything about a sperm. Yes, I believe Mark Lester was lying when he said Paris is his daughter and I believe Arnold Klein was lying. Unless DNA proves otherwise-Prince, Paris and Blanket(Michael Jackson II)-are Michael's biological children. Just as Eissan is Janet's child; albeit he is WHITER than white.
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Whether Eissa looks white or not people will still give Janet the benefit of the doubt because she hasn't gone out of her way to marry and have kids with a white spouse. Hell it took her till 49 to even have a kid. She doesn't have people out here claiming she asked them for their eggs. Again it's not just the fact that Michael's kids don't look like him... It's all of the other noise in the background that make people question it. You really can't compare the two.
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Reply #37 posted 04/17/17 9:15am

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RJOrion said:


hold up....hold up...are there people here who really think that Paris, Prince, and Blanket, are MJs biological children????....you cant be serious....BWHAHAHAHAHAHA






BlackCat1985 said:


PatrickS77 said:

That was not my point. The point is how she is being treated differently than Michael.



Uh? As soon as Janet posted this picture I saw people saying sh*t like "Oh that ain't her baby cuz he too white" or "Oh she pulled a MICHAEL JACKSON!". There's even a video on YouTube with the caption "Janet Jackson finally got what she always wanted... A WHITE baby. She is not being treated differently. Another thing.... MJ fans seem to forget is that Mark Lester and other white male "friends" of Michael's have come out saying that Michael asked them for their SPERM!!!! So it's not just the fact that his kids don't look like him.... It's all of the other stuff in the background that make people think that. Janet has never been married to a white man. She married a biracial man, a Mexican man, and an Arab man. And in between those she dated black men. Michael was married twice both to times to white women. So if some people are giving her the benefit of the doubt it's because she hasn't shown an infatuation with having white kids. That's plain and simply.



That is not the point. The point is that the very same people, who swore up and down that those kids could never be Michael's, are now saying that there is no question that the kid is not Janet's kid. And really, stop your arrogance.

As for the other thing, opportunists will say whatever it takes to get free press. And people were saying that they are not his kids long before anyone crawled out of the woodwork to talk about sperm donation. They didn't dare do that while Michael was alive. I wonder why that is so.

Oh, how stupid of me. Wissam and Rene are black. Right. Why didn't I see that? rolleyes Saying that they are mexican and/or arabic is a smokesscreen, as both are not a none-white or it's own race (but really, let's not get into that!). They are light and not black, so the same thing people say about Michael, could be said about her, however stupid that may be.

Really, what you say just proves my point. Thank you.

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You can not compare Eissa to Michael's kids yet because he is still a baby. We don't know who he will look like until he gets older. It's the same thing with Jackie's youngest kids. People were saying those babies looked as white as PPB. Now it's a different story. Me bringing up that Rene was Mexican and Wissam is Arab goes to the fact that had Janet wanted "white" looking babies she would have been with white man.
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Reply #38 posted 04/17/17 9:22am

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You can not compare Eissa to Michael's kids yet because he is still a baby. We don't know who he will look like until he gets older.

People have been saying that already when they were babies. No one said, "Ooh, hold on. Let's wait until they are older."

And again, 2 out of Janet's 3 husbands were on the white side and not black. Period.

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Reply #39 posted 04/17/17 9:25am

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Reply #40 posted 04/17/17 9:27am

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BlackCat1985 said:



You can not compare Eissa to Michael's kids yet because he is still a baby. We don't know who he will look like until he gets older.



People have been saying that already when they were babies. No one said, "Ooh, hold on. Let's wait until they are older."



And again, 2 out of Janet's 3 husbands were on the white side and not black. Period.



Last time I checked Mexicans and Arabs are NOT white. She never married a white man period!
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Reply #41 posted 04/17/17 9:30am

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Reply #42 posted 04/17/17 9:34am

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BlackCat1985 said:

PatrickS77 said:

People have been saying that already when they were babies. No one said, "Ooh, hold on. Let's wait until they are older."

And again, 2 out of Janet's 3 husbands were on the white side and not black. Period.

Last time I checked Mexicans and Arabs are NOT white. She never married a white man period!

Not all of them.

For example, a lot of the folks living in North Africa (Morocco) have Spanish (European) - Rifian decent, and they all look caucasian. They identify as Arab / muslim. So...

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Reply #43 posted 04/17/17 9:39am

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LOL. Yeah. I'm done. It's ridiculous.

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Reply #44 posted 04/17/17 10:06am

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BlackCat1985 said:


PatrickS77 said:




People have been saying that already when they were babies. No one said, "Ooh, hold on. Let's wait until they are older."



And again, 2 out of Janet's 3 husbands were on the white side and not black. Period.






Last time I checked Mexicans and Arabs are NOT white. She never married a white man period!

Not all of them.



For example, a lot of the folks living in North Africa (Morocco) have Spanish (European) - Rifian decent, and they all look caucasian. They identify as Arab / muslim. So...





Looking at Rene and Wissam would you say that they were white?... Hell naw! I couldn't tell you how many times I've come across racist ass folk calling Wissam a "sand ni**er" Neither Rene nor Wissam look white.
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Reply #45 posted 04/17/17 10:16am

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SoulAlive said:


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LOL. Yeah. I'm done. It's ridiculous.



You should be. You were the first person to bring that mess up. You knew someone would respond. Don't play innocent now.
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Reply #46 posted 04/17/17 10:20am

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PatrickS77 said:

LOL. Yeah. I'm done. It's ridiculous.

You should be. You were the first person to bring that mess up. You knew someone would respond. Don't play innocent now.

I knew what the argument, the double standard, would be and you helped proving my point.

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Reply #47 posted 04/17/17 10:33am

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BlackCat1985 said:


PatrickS77 said:



LOL. Yeah. I'm done. It's ridiculous.



You should be. You were the first person to bring that mess up. You knew someone would respond. Don't play innocent now.


I knew what the argument, the double standard, would be and you helped proving my point.




But you didn't have to do that. This was a positive thread about Janet and her new baby. And here you go derailing the thread with that sh*t. You had to make your point but now you say it's ridiculous . You can't dictate what people choose to believe. Janet's baby being this light will not change the way people feel about Michael's kids being white. So there was no reason for you to bring that up. You were being messy.... Admit it!!!
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Reply #48 posted 04/17/17 10:52am

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PatrickS77 said:

I knew what the argument, the double standard, would be and you helped proving my point.

But you didn't have to do that. This was a positive thread about Janet and her new baby. And here you go derailing the thread with that sh*t. You had to make your point but now you say it's ridiculous . You can't dictate what people choose to believe. Janet's baby being this light will not change the way people feel about Michael's kids being white. So there was no reason for you to bring that up. You were being messy.... Admit it!!! [Edited 4/17/17 10:35am]

I made a simple comment. That's all. Ridiculous are your responses and arguing back and forth, like I'm the one saying or believing that the kid is not hers.

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Reply #49 posted 04/17/17 11:01am

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BlackCat1985 said:


PatrickS77 said:



I knew what the argument, the double standard, would be and you helped proving my point.



But you didn't have to do that. This was a positive thread about Janet and her new baby. And here you go derailing the thread with that sh*t. You had to make your point but now you say it's ridiculous . You can't dictate what people choose to believe. Janet's baby being this light will not change the way people feel about Michael's kids being white. So there was no reason for you to bring that up. You were being messy.... Admit it!!! [Edited 4/17/17 10:35am]


I made a simple comment. That's all. Ridiculous are your responses and arguing back and forth, like I'm the one saying or believing that the kid is not hers.


I never said that you didn't believe the kid was her. Your comment wasn't simple it was inviting mess.
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Reply #50 posted 04/17/17 5:31pm

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Another thing.... MJ fans seem to forget is that Mark Lester and other white male "friends" of Michael's have come out saying that Michael asked them for their SPERM!!!!



eek These Janet threads are much more entertaining than those cheap supermarket tabloids. lol
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Reply #51 posted 04/17/17 7:58pm

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BlackCat1985 said:



Another thing.... MJ fans seem to forget is that Mark Lester and other white male "friends" of Michael's have come out saying that Michael asked them for their SPERM!!!!



eek These Janet threads are much more entertaining than those cheap supermarket tabloids. lol



Hey that font tried it! This thread didn't have to go left. He should have never brought MJ into the mix. This thread wasn't about him are his kids. Don't start nothing it won't be nothing.
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Reply #52 posted 04/17/17 8:15pm

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Adorable.

How long until people will say she's not the biological mother?

Too late, I've already read comments like this all over already.

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Reply #53 posted 04/17/17 11:03pm

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PatrickS77 said:



BlackCat1985 said:


PatrickS77 said:



I knew what the argument, the double standard, would be and you helped proving my point.



But you didn't have to do that. This was a positive thread about Janet and her new baby. And here you go derailing the thread with that sh*t. You had to make your point but now you say it's ridiculous . You can't dictate what people choose to believe. Janet's baby being this light will not change the way people feel about Michael's kids being white. So there was no reason for you to bring that up. You were being messy.... Admit it!!! [Edited 4/17/17 10:35am]


I made a simple comment. That's all. Ridiculous are your responses and arguing back and forth, like I'm the one saying or believing that the kid is not hers.



You made your point about the blatant hypocrisy of these people and that's the bottom line.
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Reply #54 posted 04/18/17 6:22am

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^^The funny or ironic thing is that the same Janet fans who were hellbent on claiming that Michael's kids are not his and never can be his, because they appear white, will now swear up and down that there is no way that the kid is not Janet's son and that it means nothing that he appears white. Kinda like upon Prince's death the Prince fans had to eat their own words they uttered, when Michael died. I guess Karma's a bitch.



Michael's kids weren't his though.

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Reply #55 posted 04/18/17 6:24am

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Free2BMe said:
You are correct on all counts. Yes, the baby looks white. MUCH whiter than Michael's children when they were born. However, Janet will get a pass from her fans and everybody else, just as she always does. Ironically, Michael married a BLOND, white woman( German descent), and you still have idiots who wonder why his children "look white". Of course, only Michael is treated this unfairly. [Edited 4/15/17 0:40am]
. And Michael's three biological children have such great singing voices and dance moves. Plus they speak in that sexy baby voice he had too. It's strange how genetics can work but anytime I wonder I just visit the org.



I can see why Michael Jackson apepals to you.

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Reply #56 posted 04/18/17 8:41am

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The husband has put this on his website, along with a photo of Janet:

To the most beautiful person in the world, thank you for
your divine love, your eternal support and for being my
best friend. I love you so much, inshallah
we will be together in the Great Forever x

This was posted on his site long before the seperation annoucement. This is old but yes it is interesting he still has it posted on his site.

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Reply #57 posted 04/18/17 8:44am

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SoulAlive said:
eek These Janet threads are much more entertaining than those cheap supermarket tabloids. lol
Hey that font tried it! This thread didn't have to go left. He should have never brought MJ into the mix. This thread wasn't about him are his kids. Don't start nothing it won't be nothing.

Oh Please

What is annoying about you Janet stans is the hyprocrisy card you play when it comes to Janet, in that Janet seperation thread that I closed. YOU Janet stans brought MJ up for NO REASON so don't lecture us on "don't start nothin won't be nothing" when ya'll randomly bring up MJ in discussions yourself. It is interesting that you never called out that Janet stan who brought up MJ in that Janet discussion.

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mjscarousal said:

TrivialPursuit said:

The husband has put this on his website, along with a photo of Janet:

To the most beautiful person in the world, thank you for
your divine love, your eternal support and for being my
best friend. I love you so much, inshallah
we will be together in the Great Forever x

This was posted on his site long before the seperation annoucement. This is old but yes it is interesting he still has it posted on his site.


Interesting, because the news picked it up as new recently.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #59 posted 04/18/17 9:04am

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This is the new message he posted on his site:

"You shall most certainly be tried in your possessions and in your persons; and indeed you shall hear many hurtful things from those to whom revelation was granted before your time, as well as from those who have come to ascribe divinity to other beings beside Allah," it read. "But if you remain patient in adversity and conscious of Him – this, behold, is something to set one's heart upon. - 3:186​"

The media assumed that other quote is new because Wissam and Janet are drawing attention to their seperation/divorce. Before they were very private and secretive about their marriage so that quote Wissam made about Janet years ago went under the radar.

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