D'Angelo put out excellent BM but then came To Pimp A Butterfly a few months

later and, I feel, while playing on so many of the same themes, is miles better.

I still listen a lot to Kendricks album, it's a masterpiece but never BM anymore,

compared to Kendrick it falls short. and thats a damn shame. cuz they're both great.

It's just, Kendrick's album is the truth and thats hard to match.

your thoughts?

They're apples and oranges, to me. Kendrick isn't crooning a love song, and D'Angelo ain't a hip-hop artist.

The problem is, for whatever reasons that are his own, D'Angelo become more of a myth than a reality. He disappeared, he stopped making music. He only showed up here and there to do one-off shows. People lost interest in many ways, and when he did finally release an album, it was a very, very different musical landscape. That landscape encapsulates the world being a singles market, a digitally altered production mentality, a flash-in-the-pan lifespan for an artist, or their album. People are easily lost in the haze of Spotify or the iTunes store, opposed to going to the record store and going through the CDs. Even retail outlets just throw everything together that isn't country or classical or gospel. You find Kendrick Lamar next to Guns n' Roses, or and Duran Duran next to Rihanna. D'Angelo simply got lost, and was an attempted comeback story. He gave up his spot as the new voice. And everyone vied for that spot.

No shit. Apples and peaches.

stealing?..what Thunder?...D made a nice album...Kendrick Lamar released his long winded gibberish, months later...one had nothing to do with the other

Both albums were BLACK. Black lives matter, Black Power, whatever, it was in the air after

shootings in Ferguson and Treyvon Martin. They were black protest albums. you guys are blind.

And D'Angelo is a hiphop artist too.

SignOthetimes1987 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

Both albums were BLACK. Black lives matter, Black Power, whatever, it was in the air after

shootings in Ferguson and Treyvon Martin. They were black protest albums. you guys are blind.

And D'Angelo is a hiphop artist too.

So what does that have to do with K Dot supposedly stealing D'Angelo's thunder?

D'Angelo wanted to be the voice of Black Lives Matter with BM, but Kendrick sort of became

the spokesperson with "Alright".

SignOthetimes1987 said:

D'Angelo barely wanted a comeback.

Black Messiah was an album that came out, made a buzz for a few weeks, you had SNL, and.... faded.

Black Messiah earned two Grammy Awards -best R&B album and best R&B song for “Really Love.” I wish he would tour more and release new material as often as possible.

RJOrion said:

stealing?..what Thunder?...D made a nice album...Kendrick Lamar released his long winded gibberish, months later...one had nothing to do with the other

yep..how can gibberish steal gibberish

One man's gibberish is other man's desert island disc.

Rap stole R&B's thunder a long time ago.

Dasein said:

Rap stole R&B's thunder a long time ago.

true that.

heathilly said:

No their in to different genres and dangelo is an older artist. Butterfly is Kendrick second album he's still very much a newcomer.

True.

But (tentatively) counting Untitled Unmastered, K-Dot has as many album releases in 4 years as D'Angelo has had in 22 years.

namepeace said:

heathilly said:

namepeace said:

True.

But (tentatively) counting Untitled Unmastered, K-Dot has as many album releases in 4 years as D'Angelo has had in 22 years.

Well I don't know if that's laziness or perfectionism either way that's ridiculous if your not like on a mj level.

A little bit of "this, that and the other" is my guess.

duccichucka (when he was here) convinced me that artists like D'Angelo don't "owe" audiences prolific output.

But there is no doubt that the extended hiatuses D, Maxwell and others took left a void in the music scene for end of the 90s and almost all of the 00's that wasn't completely filled.

namepeace said:

heathilly said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

Both albums were BLACK. Black lives matter, Black Power, whatever, it was in the air after

shootings in Ferguson and Treyvon Martin. They were black protest albums. you guys are blind.

And D'Angelo is a hiphop artist too.

namepeace said:

heathilly said:

namepeace said: Well I don't know if that's laziness or perfectionism either way that's ridiculous if your not like on a mj level.

A little bit of "this, that and the other" is my guess.

duccichucka (when he was here) convinced me that artists like D'Angelo don't "owe" audiences prolific output.

But there is no doubt that the extended hiatuses D, Maxwell and others took left a void in the music scene for end of the 90s and almost all of the 00's that wasn't completely filled.

D is still here I believe.

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SignOthetimes1987 said:

Both albums were BLACK. Black lives matter, Black Power, whatever, it was in the air after

shootings in Ferguson and Treyvon Martin. They were black protest albums. you guys are blind.

And D'Angelo is a hiphop artist too.

Dangelo is not a rapper. And to pimp a butterfly is not a black protest album. From your comment you make broad superficial assupmtions with little grasp of the source material. Try again

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I like both artists......but I play D'Angelo's music alot more than Lamar....especially his live sets. This is my fav at the moment D'Angelo Live @ Montreux Jazz Festival 2000, Voodoo era with The Soulquarians

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babynoz said:

namepeace said:

A little bit of "this, that and the other" is my guess.

duccichucka (when he was here) convinced me that artists like D'Angelo don't "owe" audiences prolific output.

But there is no doubt that the extended hiatuses D, Maxwell and others took left a void in the music scene for end of the 90s and almost all of the 00's that wasn't completely filled.

D is still here I believe.

[Edited 3/24/17 19:18pm]

I love Black Messiah, like a lot, but the fact is it didn't crossover to a younger audience, it was mostly old D'Angelo fans listening to it. D'Angelo's connections are all old school, someone like Questlove is the youngest. The album was a finely crafted piece of work but it didn't scream modern.

Kendrick on the other hand comes from Compton with hip hop credentials coming out his ears, Pitchfork has been on his side since day 1 as well, that's the whole younger crossover audience right there.

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Kendrick in his fictional dialogue with Pac :"there aint nothing but turmoil down here".

D'Angelo expresses much of the same sentiment.

Just look at the album covers too.

Both albums dealt with the struggles of being a Black person in todays society.

How can you guys not see this?

And IMO Kendrick stole all of D'Angelo' thunder even though BM is brillliant too.

But TPAB is a masterpiece, an instant classic.

I wish I was going to Coachella.

SignOthetimes1987 said:

Kendrick in his fictional dialogue with Pac :"there aint nothing but turmoil down here".

D'Angelo expresses much of the same sentiment.

Just look at the album covers too.

Both albums dealt with the struggles of being a Black person in todays society.

How can you guys not see this?

And IMO Kendrick stole all of D'Angelo' thunder even though BM is brillliant too.

But TPAB is a masterpiece, an instant classic.

I wish I was going to Coachella.

we see it.

[Edited 3/25/17 21:27pm]

jaawwnn said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

Kendrick in his fictional dialogue with Pac :"there aint nothing but turmoil down here".

D'Angelo expresses much of the same sentiment.

Just look at the album covers too.

Both albums dealt with the struggles of being a Black person in todays society.

How can you guys not see this?

And IMO Kendrick stole all of D'Angelo' thunder even though BM is brillliant too.

But TPAB is a masterpiece, an instant classic.

I wish I was going to Coachella.

we see it.

[Edited 3/25/17 21:27pm]

thank you.