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Thread started 03/22/17 6:38pm

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Ed Sheeran rips off another song

Ed Sheeran has given the writers behind TLC‘s 90s hit ‘No Scrubs’ a credit on his single ‘Shape Of You’ after comparisons were made between the two songs.


‘Shape Of You’, which features on his new album ‘÷’, was originally written for Rihanna. Harry Potter actor Rupert Grint recently de...its lyrics.


Now the BBC reports that ‘No Scrubs’ writers and former Xscape members Kandi Burruss and Tameka Cottle, plus the song’s producer Kevin Briggs, now appear on US copyright website ASCAP as co-writers of the song. Previously, only Sheeran and co-writers Steve Mac and Snow Patrol’s Johnny McDaid were listed.


Although no reason has been given for the new writing credits, it had previously been pointed out how the two songs sounded similar. NME has reached out to Sheeran’s PR for a comment.

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Reply #1 posted 03/22/17 7:19pm

3rdeyedude

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sounds more like Tracy Chapman

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Reply #2 posted 03/22/17 7:38pm

CynicKill

Sounds nothing alike.

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Reply #3 posted 03/22/17 8:28pm

RJOrion

this guy is over-hyped, bland, trash...next

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Reply #4 posted 03/22/17 8:47pm

dancerella

Personally I can't hear how they're alike. In any case, yes he's overhyped. Give me Patrick Stump any day over this dude.
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Reply #5 posted 03/23/17 4:49am

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CynicKill said:

Sounds nothing alike.



Well he already gave them co-credit so an admission on his part.
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Reply #6 posted 03/23/17 6:26am

nd33

Can someone describe exactly which parts were deemed alike, so I don't have to do any research. Thanks!

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Reply #7 posted 03/23/17 7:02am

CynicKill

laurarichardson said:

CynicKill said:

Sounds nothing alike.

Well he already gave them co-credit so an admission on his part.

Eh.

Just avoiding another frivilous lawsuit.

I'm so happy I don't write popular songs.

Apparenly almost every smash hit is hit with a lawsuit.

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Reply #8 posted 03/23/17 9:43am

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CynicKill said:

laurarichardson said:

CynicKill said: Well he already gave them co-credit so an admission on his part.

Eh.

Just avoiding another frivilous lawsuit.

I'm so happy I don't write popular songs.

Apparenly almost every smash hit is hit with a lawsuit.

So all 3 times were frivolous or maybe he is a no -talent hack being jammed down our throats.

He could have settled with a lump sum of money rather then co-credit and it does go by the note and chords so musicolgist must have told him to give up the credit.

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Reply #9 posted 03/23/17 2:16pm

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nd33 said:

Can someone describe exactly which parts were deemed alike, so I don't have to do any research. Thanks!

In the refrain

As well Ed admitted using it as inspiration but I think its kinda reaching but beteer to be safe than sorry.

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Reply #10 posted 03/23/17 2:22pm

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bullshit falloff

Sporty Thievez was outright plagiarism what happened there?

I don't want to get eaten alive
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No more hearts I can trust, you see
I don't want to get eaten alive
To be eaten alive
Eaten alive
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Reply #11 posted 03/24/17 10:39am

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RJOrion said:

this guy is over-hyped, bland, trash...next


I don't think he's overhyped, but he certainly has an audience. And in today's market where hardly anyone would get on a stage, create their own loop with their voice and a guitar, then sing an entire song over it - he has talent. And that's not just because he has a loop machine, or whatever it's called. (Alicia Keys attempted the same thing recently, but hers seemed awkward overall.) He was selling out stadiums on his last tour, and had just a guitar. No band, no big smoke & mirrors show. Some LED graphics of course. There are people will full blown shows that aren't selling those sorts of tickets.

I think he can be seen as bland in a market where everything is so filtered, compressed, altered, pitch-corrected, and synchronized to death. Think about someone like Jill Scott who brought back great R&B music in a then-landscape where there was just so much mediocre and uninspired music out there. Her album, Who Is Jill Scott? was the epitome of her showing up singing, and saying "THIS BITCH, THAT'S WHO!"

While Ed is not Jill, he certain has a cornered part of the market that people have forgotten about, or ignored in favor of a fucking worthless Rihanna track. I'm not a huge fan of his, but I don't hate him either. I'll listen to a song if it's playing.

As far as the song - I can see where some could draw similarities, but in general I don't think it's lawsuit worthy. There have certainly been bigger offenders. And I'd agree that him adding whoever's name to the songwriting credit is probably to avoid litigation, in a society where money is God. I remember The Rolling Stones doing that with kd lang for "Mixed Emotions" because some of it sounded like "Constant Craving" in the chorus. It was obligatory, at most.

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Reply #12 posted 03/24/17 4:54pm

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Hudson said:

bullshit falloff

Sporty Thievez was outright plagiarism what happened there?


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Reply #13 posted 03/24/17 7:43pm

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So it's legal to use the same instrumental and not change 20% of the lyrics?

I don't want to get eaten alive
'cause you're so dangerous
No more hearts I can trust, you see
I don't want to get eaten alive
To be eaten alive
Eaten alive
I don't ever want to be
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Reply #14 posted 03/25/17 9:33am

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I like Ed Sheeran. Sounds okay to me. smile

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Reply #15 posted 03/25/17 11:19pm

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paisleypark4 said:



nd33 said:


Can someone describe exactly which parts were deemed alike, so I don't have to do any research. Thanks!




In the refrain




As well Ed admitted using it as inspiration but I think its kinda reaching but beteer to be safe than sorry.



WHAT. THE. FUCK is going on in these court rooms. There is no melodic similarity in those.
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Reply #16 posted 03/26/17 3:55pm

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nd33 said:

paisleypark4 said:

In the refrain

As well Ed admitted using it as inspiration but I think its kinda reaching but beteer to be safe than sorry.

WHAT. THE. FUCK is going on in these court rooms. There is no melodic similarity in those.


I don't hear it either. shrug

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Reply #17 posted 03/26/17 4:15pm

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Fuck Ed Sheeran regardless of who writes his sorry ass songs that resonate w/ trump voters.

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Reply #18 posted 03/29/17 6:06am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

nd33 said:

paisleypark4 said: WHAT. THE. FUCK is going on in these court rooms. There is no melodic similarity in those.


I don't hear it either. shrug

Once again he gave them credit and it is his third time doing it. No courts were involved.

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Reply #19 posted 03/29/17 10:03am

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Freak.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #20 posted 03/29/17 12:35pm

Ellie

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paisleypark4 said:

nd33 said:

Can someone describe exactly which parts were deemed alike, so I don't have to do any research. Thanks!

In the refrain

As well Ed admitted using it as inspiration but I think its kinda reaching but beteer to be safe than sorry.

That just sounds like she's singing No Scrubs to the tune of Shape of You!

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Reply #21 posted 03/30/17 6:49am

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nd33 said:

Can someone describe exactly which parts were deemed alike, so I don't have to do any research. Thanks!

go ask him since he gave them the credit if u question it go question him

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Reply #22 posted 03/30/17 7:16am

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Hudson said:

So it's legal to use the same instrumental and not change 20% of the lyrics?


The producer and writer of "No Scrubs" are listed on "No Pigeons".

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Reply #23 posted 03/30/17 7:55am

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cbarnes3121 said:

nd33 said:

Can someone describe exactly which parts were deemed alike, so I don't have to do any research. Thanks!

go ask him since he gave them the credit if u question it go question him


Can you provide a news source link from where you got your info?

On the BBC it says:
"It's not yet been confirmed by either party why the additional writing credits have been given".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...ape-of-you

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Reply #24 posted 03/30/17 8:02am

nd33

Wow, I just listened again. This is really money grabbing. I mean, you'd have to move and ammend every note to make it the same melody. I'm a working musician, so it's not hard to get my head around what each melody is doing.

Pretty fucked that someone can get credit for that.

I guess 'Murica is built on dubious ownership claims!

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Reply #25 posted 03/30/17 8:10am

Cinny

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Ed Sheeran is still in court for ripping off "Let's Get It On" (good! That one is blatant).

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Reply #26 posted 03/30/17 9:18am

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nd33 said:

cbarnes3121 said:

go ask him since he gave them the credit if u question it go question him


Can you provide a news source link from where you got your info?

On the BBC it says:
"It's not yet been confirmed by either party why the additional writing credits have been given".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...ape-of-you

kandi wrote on her instagram that they were added to the credits and in a interview she said it

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Reply #27 posted 03/30/17 3:24pm

mjscarousal

What is so special about Ed Sheeran? When is prince.org going to devote a thread to this guy? He sucks.

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Reply #28 posted 04/02/17 10:04pm

Cinny

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nd33 said:

Wow, I just listened again. This is really money grabbing. I mean, you'd have to move and ammend every note to make it the same melody. I'm a working musician, so it's not hard to get my head around what each melody is doing.

Pretty fucked that someone can get credit for that.

I guess 'Murica is built on dubious ownership claims!


I personally don't hear TLC's chord progression moving or playing the same either, so for me that is two mismatched elements not worth a lawsuit.

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Reply #29 posted 04/03/17 9:36am

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mjscarousal said:

What is so special about Ed Sheeran? When is prince.org going to devote a thread to this guy? He sucks.


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But "saaaaales" and "breaking recorddddds"....
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Weren't we just celebrating MC Hammer and his artistic accomplishments on the .org? Is Ed's porcelain and red that offensive to you? I thought some of y'all lived to justify artistry based on commercial success. If MC Hammer is underrated what does that make Ed Sheeran? Both apparently make their name jacking other less "talented" "artists" like TLC and Kandi Burress lol
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