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Artists who have had their "sound" imitated

Prince is an obvious one (The Minneapolis Sound) as is James Brown but what other artists out there have had their "sound" imitated by other artists? Now of course all artists are influenced by other artists that came before them but I'm talking an outright BITE. Example: Bar-Kays with "Shine" a total bite of Earth, Wind, & Fire's "On Your Face" or another Bar-Kays song "Freakshow On The Dancefloor" a bite of Midnight Starrs "No Parking On The Dancefloor" I can actually name two or three others by the Bar-Kays but I'm curious as to what y'all can come up with.
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Reply #1 posted 04/04/03 9:46am

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What does "The Minneapolis Sound" stands 4? I'm sorry lol I hear this term everywhere I go and I don't know whats the TRUE meaning behind it.

Prince's sound reminds me of EW&F, Rose Royce, James Brown, P-Funk, Crutis Mayfeild and Mother's Finest. The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker maybe labeled as "The MPLS sound" cuz 2 me this song has a unique sound to it.

The most imitated artist is Stevie Wonder,,period!
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Reply #2 posted 04/04/03 9:52am

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"The MPLS Sound" is the linn drum machine, synth heavy, funk-pop sound that emerged from Minneapolis based artists such as Prince, The Time, Jam & Lewis, Jesse Johnson...
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Reply #3 posted 04/04/03 9:57am

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Essence said:

"The MPLS Sound" is the linn drum machine, synth heavy, funk-pop sound that emerged from Minneapolis based artists such as Prince, The Time, Jam & Lewis, Jesse Johnson...


The MPLS sound is like porno... You know it when you see (hear) it. Of course P has influenced by those other groups but you can't deny he packaged it into something that was his own. I'm talking taking someones sound as is, without bringing anything of your own to the table. I'll give another example: Shalamar with "Games" straight bite of Cameo.
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Reply #4 posted 04/04/03 10:47am

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intha916 said:

Prince is an obvious one (The Minneapolis Sound) as is James Brown but what other artists out there have had their "sound" imitated by other artists? Now of course all artists are influenced by other artists that came before them but I'm talking an outright BITE. Example: Bar-Kays with "Shine" a total bite of Earth, Wind, & Fire's "On Your Face" or another Bar-Kays song "Freakshow On The Dancefloor" a bite of Midnight Starrs "No Parking On The Dancefloor" I can actually name two or three others by the Bar-Kays but I'm curious as to what y'all can come up with.


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Reply #5 posted 04/04/03 11:04am

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The very first instance of the Minneapolis Sound was the coda to "I Wanna Be Your Lover"...from there if you can't identify it thru his catalog along with those of The Time and Vanity 6...



Creed is an obvious poor man's Pearl Jam.

Anybody remember the group from the late 80s called Kingdom Come? A terrible version of Led Zeppelin.

Whitesnake also had some Zeppelinesque songs.

Early Kool & The Gang could sound EERILY like the JB's.

I've heard some live boots of Lenny Kravitz where he sounds WAY too much like Curtis Mayfield. Some of his music alternately sounds like Led Zeppelin and a ton of others. As Anthony DeCurtis once said, "Where does Lenny's influences end, and Lenny begin?"

Prince has purposely gone to the well for his JB sound from time to time.

Badfinger sounded like the Beatles, and were on the Beatles' Apple label.

Change sounded like Chic (as did some of Soul II Soul's songs) with the vocal arrangements, the string section, the mid tempo piano, and the rhythm guitar. Groups like ABC and Queen also borrowed from Chic's sound.
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Reply #6 posted 04/04/03 12:50pm

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James Brown,Little Richard,Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?
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Reply #7 posted 04/04/03 12:55pm

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mistermaxxx said:

Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?


yeah. everything you said nod
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Reply #8 posted 04/04/03 1:51pm

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mistermaxxx said:

James Brown,Little Richard,Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 13:03:22 PST 2003 by mistermaxxx]


I agree with some but not others. R Kelly? No way. The key word you used is "influence" As I satated, everyone has been influenced byt someone else. What I am talking about is when you hear a song you say, "damn that sounds just like___" From the vocals to the music. That Groove Theory song did have a Rick James feel but it doesn't fit what I'm talkin about. Think RFTW's "Oh Sheila" and Prince.
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Reply #9 posted 04/04/03 5:01pm

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intha916 said:
I agree with some but not others. R Kelly? No way. The key word you used is "influence" As I satated, everyone has been influenced byt someone else. What I am talking about is when you hear a song you say, "damn that sounds just like___" From the vocals to the music. That Groove Theory song did have a Rick James feel but it doesn't fit what I'm talkin about. Think RFTW's "Oh Sheila" and Prince.[/quote]

So you DON'T think Avant is "influenced" by R. Kelly? Come on. Seriously? Also, I don't think RFTW sounds like Prince in any way shape or fashion as far as vocals are concerned. It was just the music on the first record that sounded like it belonged in MLPS. In music EVERYBODY can be tied to somebody.
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Reply #10 posted 04/04/03 5:48pm

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RFTW?
Who's that?
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Reply #11 posted 04/04/03 6:00pm

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PANDURITO said:

RFTW?
Who's that?

Prince stole his sound from them! razz

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Reply #12 posted 04/04/03 7:09pm

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Supernova said:



Creed is an obvious poor man's Pearl Jam.






You're too kind.





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Reply #13 posted 04/05/03 12:11am

mistermaxxx

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

James Brown,Little Richard,Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 13:03:22 PST 2003 by mistermaxxx]


I agree with some but not others. R Kelly? No way. The key word you used is "influence" As I satated, everyone has been influenced byt someone else. What I am talking about is when you hear a song you say, "damn that sounds just like___" From the vocals to the music. That Groove Theory song did have a Rick James feel but it doesn't fit what I'm talkin about. Think RFTW's "Oh Sheila" and Prince.
do your R.Kelly Homework? Avant,Montell Jordan,Joe.quite a few Artists have Used His thing.
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Reply #14 posted 04/05/03 1:07am

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Coldplay is A-HA...Listen to AHA's last 4cds and see the infuence, even the Coldplay dude had AHA written on his wrist at a show.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #15 posted 04/05/03 3:32am

Essence

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

James Brown,Little Richard,Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 13:03:22 PST 2003 by mistermaxxx]


I agree with some but not others. R Kelly? No way. The key word you used is "influence" As I satated, everyone has been influenced byt someone else. What I am talking about is when you hear a song you say, "damn that sounds just like___" From the vocals to the music. That Groove Theory song did have a Rick James feel but it doesn't fit what I'm talkin about. Think RFTW's "Oh Sheila" and Prince.
do your R.Kelly Homework? Avant,Montell Jordan,Joe.quite a few Artists have Used His thing.


Producer Steve Huff has made a career off RK biting.
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Reply #16 posted 04/06/03 2:58pm

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As always m-maxx you know yo stuff and everything you said
i agree. Everyone is influenced by everybody...but the key is how you blend your influences into your own thing to
come up with something that's your own.

i'm old school and know PRince's influences quite well
(which is one reason it was easy for me to dig where he
was coming from.

the BEATles grew up being fanatic fans of little richard,
chuck berry,carl perkins.elvis,leadbelly ,buddy holly,
fats domino...black girls group like the shirelles...
motown groups-and took all of these different artists to
define rock-pop .

james Brown invented funk (but he was heavily influenced
by many R & B & GOSPEL ACTS )

again m-maxx you know yo music.
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Reply #17 posted 04/06/03 3:00pm

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lastdecember said:

Coldplay is A-HA...Listen to AHA's last 4cds and see the infuence, even the Coldplay dude had AHA written on his wrist at a show.
biggrin How interesting. I love A-ha. I have 'Minor Earth, Major Sky', but none of their other later work. I've been meaning to check them out. I will now so I can start preaching to people how the most popular credible band around now are nicking off a "allegedly" tired group of middle-aged 80s has-beens biggrin biggrin
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Reply #18 posted 04/06/03 3:14pm

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Here's my 2 cents about this. Without the Chili Peppers ther would be no Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Faith No More, etc.

Without the Clash there would be no Rancid, Manic Street Preachers, or Radio 4.

Without no Beastie Boys, there would be no Eminem, The Streets or Vanilla Ice.

Without the Smiths there would be no Blur, Oasis, or ColdPlay.

...and the list goes on.
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Reply #19 posted 04/06/03 3:42pm

mistermaxxx

youngca said:

As always m-maxx you know yo stuff and everything you said
i agree. Everyone is influenced by everybody...but the key is how you blend your influences into your own thing to
come up with something that's your own.

i'm old school and know PRince's influences quite well
(which is one reason it was easy for me to dig where he
was coming from.

the BEATles grew up being fanatic fans of little richard,
chuck berry,carl perkins.elvis,leadbelly ,buddy holly,
fats domino...black girls group like the shirelles...
motown groups-and took all of these different artists to
define rock-pop .

james Brown invented funk (but he was heavily influenced
by many R & B & GOSPEL ACTS )

again m-maxx you know yo music.
Thank you for the Juice.And you are Right ON! Carl Perkins who hardly ever gets a Mention.RIGHT ON&Great Call on Him."Blue Suede Shoes" His Version is tight IMHO.Props to You
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Reply #20 posted 04/06/03 4:44pm

JANFAN4L

Stevie Wonder
Prince
Michael Jackson
Janet Jackson
Madonna
Alana Davis
Kelis
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Reply #21 posted 04/07/03 9:35am

intha916

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Essence said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

James Brown,Little Richard,Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 13:03:22 PST 2003 by mistermaxxx]


I agree with some but not others. R Kelly? No way. The key word you used is "influence" As I satated, everyone has been influenced byt someone else. What I am talking about is when you hear a song you say, "damn that sounds just like___" From the vocals to the music. That Groove Theory song did have a Rick James feel but it doesn't fit what I'm talkin about. Think RFTW's "Oh Sheila" and Prince.
do your R.Kelly Homework? Avant,Montell Jordan,Joe.quite a few Artists have Used His thing.


Producer Steve Huff has made a career off RK biting.


You know thinking about it, I'll give you R Kelly but I still don't think ya'll get it but that's cool. Listen to Shine by the Bar-Kays and then "On Your Face" by Earth Wind and Fire. They are damn near the same song! Again I'm not simply talking about influences.
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Reply #22 posted 04/07/03 10:22am

TRON

David Bowie has been imitated by nearly every underground rock act that followed him.

Joy Division opened up the idea of what you could do with punk and synth music and influenced so many of the alternative bands that followed: U2, The Cure, Depeche Mode and even 90s bands like Nirvana site them as a major influence.

And I agree about The Smiths. They single-handedly destroyed the synth pop of the 80's.

The Pixies laid the groudwork for grunge.
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Reply #23 posted 04/07/03 10:26am

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Kraftwerk
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Reply #24 posted 04/07/03 12:41pm

mistermaxxx

intha916 said:

Essence said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

James Brown,Little Richard,Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 13:03:22 PST 2003 by mistermaxxx]


I agree with some but not others. R Kelly? No way. The key word you used is "influence" As I satated, everyone has been influenced byt someone else. What I am talking about is when you hear a song you say, "damn that sounds just like___" From the vocals to the music. That Groove Theory song did have a Rick James feel but it doesn't fit what I'm talkin about. Think RFTW's "Oh Sheila" and Prince.
do your R.Kelly Homework? Avant,Montell Jordan,Joe.quite a few Artists have Used His thing.


Producer Steve Huff has made a career off RK biting.


You know thinking about it, I'll give you R Kelly but I still don't think ya'll get it but that's cool. Listen to Shine by the Bar-Kays and then "On Your Face" by Earth Wind and Fire. They are damn near the same song! Again I'm not simply talking about influences.
Let me nip the Bar Kays in the Bud now: they were essentially pulling a Puff Daddy back in the day with there Producer Allen E.Jones.they took whatever was happening&added to there thing.MJ,Prince,Rick James,EWF,Cameo,Ohio Players,Sly,P-Funk,Gap,,etc... they Jacked all of there Stuff&added there own take on it.the Best House Band that Puffy never had.but let me tell you something: what they lacked in overall Originality they sure as Hell would Hurt your feelings on stage.they were One of the Baddest Live Acts back in the day.I got a few of there Albums but when you see them Live they Tear you out of the Screen Live".
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Reply #25 posted 04/07/03 1:43pm

intha916

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mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

Essence said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

James Brown,Little Richard,Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 13:03:22 PST 2003 by mistermaxxx]


I agree with some but not others. R Kelly? No way. The key word you used is "influence" As I satated, everyone has been influenced byt someone else. What I am talking about is when you hear a song you say, "damn that sounds just like___" From the vocals to the music. That Groove Theory song did have a Rick James feel but it doesn't fit what I'm talkin about. Think RFTW's "Oh Sheila" and Prince.
do your R.Kelly Homework? Avant,Montell Jordan,Joe.quite a few Artists have Used His thing.


Producer Steve Huff has made a career off RK biting.


You know thinking about it, I'll give you R Kelly but I still don't think ya'll get it but that's cool. Listen to Shine by the Bar-Kays and then "On Your Face" by Earth Wind and Fire. They are damn near the same song! Again I'm not simply talking about influences.
Let me nip the Bar Kays in the Bud now: they were essentially pulling a Puff Daddy back in the day with there Producer Allen E.Jones.they took whatever was happening&added to there thing.MJ,Prince,Rick James,EWF,Cameo,Ohio Players,Sly,P-Funk,Gap,,etc... they Jacked all of there Stuff&added there own take on it.the Best House Band that Puffy never had.but let me tell you something: what they lacked in overall Originality they sure as Hell would Hurt your feelings on stage.they were One of the Baddest Live Acts back in the day.I got a few of there Albums but when you see them Live they Tear you out of the Screen Live".


Hey don't get me wrong. I loved the Bar-Kays but now you feel what I'm saying. The did jack what was hittin at the time. The biggest "jackfest" was the sex-o-matic album. Besides bitin Midnight Starr they had a cut on there that sounded just like "DMSR" Can't remember the name of the track but it even had a name sort like DMSR. The Bar-Kays did create somewhat of their own sound however. The album that stands out to me is "Propsitions" Do it, She talks to me with her body and the title track are Bar-Kay classics.
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Reply #26 posted 04/07/03 7:07pm

mistermaxxx

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

Essence said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

James Brown,Little Richard,Sly&The Family Stone Music&Image,Jimi Hendrix Music&Image,Michael Jackson,Prince, The Beatles think about Oasis? Among others?? Babyface,Timberland,R.Kelly,Rick James think about that Jam by Groove Theory" Tell me what you want me to do"?? P-Funk Countless Influence.Earth,Wind&Fire,Steely Dan.the Bottom Line anyone Successful in the Business there are gonna Be Huge Bites Period.Rap happens all the time&I remember a time in Rap when Biting was ill to do?
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 13:03:22 PST 2003 by mistermaxxx]


I agree with some but not others. R Kelly? No way. The key word you used is "influence" As I satated, everyone has been influenced byt someone else. What I am talking about is when you hear a song you say, "damn that sounds just like___" From the vocals to the music. That Groove Theory song did have a Rick James feel but it doesn't fit what I'm talkin about. Think RFTW's "Oh Sheila" and Prince.
do your R.Kelly Homework? Avant,Montell Jordan,Joe.quite a few Artists have Used His thing.


Producer Steve Huff has made a career off RK biting.


You know thinking about it, I'll give you R Kelly but I still don't think ya'll get it but that's cool. Listen to Shine by the Bar-Kays and then "On Your Face" by Earth Wind and Fire. They are damn near the same song! Again I'm not simply talking about influences.
Let me nip the Bar Kays in the Bud now: they were essentially pulling a Puff Daddy back in the day with there Producer Allen E.Jones.they took whatever was happening&added to there thing.MJ,Prince,Rick James,EWF,Cameo,Ohio Players,Sly,P-Funk,Gap,,etc... they Jacked all of there Stuff&added there own take on it.the Best House Band that Puffy never had.but let me tell you something: what they lacked in overall Originality they sure as Hell would Hurt your feelings on stage.they were One of the Baddest Live Acts back in the day.I got a few of there Albums but when you see them Live they Tear you out of the Screen Live".


Hey don't get me wrong. I loved the Bar-Kays but now you feel what I'm saying. The did jack what was hittin at the time. The biggest "jackfest" was the sex-o-matic album. Besides bitin Midnight Starr they had a cut on there that sounded just like "DMSR" Can't remember the name of the track but it even had a name sort like DMSR. The Bar-Kays did create somewhat of their own sound however. The album that stands out to me is "Propsitions" Do it, She talks to me with her body and the title track are Bar-Kay classics.
"NightCrusin" from 1981 is My Favorite Bar Kays Album.I dig them as well."Your Place Or Mine" jacked "Erotic City" Big time back in 85.
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Reply #27 posted 04/08/03 6:07am

TheStone

One that has been missed on the list is

Dave Matthews Band.

This sound has been tried a few times in the last few years with some success.

John Mayer
Cold Play
and a plethora of college bar bands.
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Reply #28 posted 04/08/03 6:15am

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Here's some artists who have had their sound imitated...


***Michael Jackson---The Bar-Kays' 1984 hit "Dirty Dancer" stole it's synth line from Michael's "Billie Jean".Similarly,Billy Ocean's 1984 hit "Carribean Queen" also sounds a little too much like "Billie Jean".

***Midnight Star---The Bar Kays basically stole their 1983 song "No Parking On The DanceFloor" and re-titled it "Freakshow On The Dancefloor".
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Reply #29 posted 04/08/03 6:51am

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TRON said:[quote]David Bowie has been imitated by nearly every underground rock act that followed him.

without Bowie half the bands that started after him would never excist.

duran duran, u2, simple minds, madonna, NIN, suede, placebo the list goes on and on.

oh yeah, and he saved the career of Iggy pop and Lou reed.
and he discovered Luther Vandross.

I could go on and on. (but i won't)

David Bowie is the centre of the music world.
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