MotownSubdivision said:

MotownSubdivision said:

The album is definitely more R&B rather than pop so reaching #2 is excellent but all the same, it's weird how one of today's biggest names' album failed to reach the top at a time where anybody can have a #1 album. I think the songs have a hand in the album's performance as well. 24K Magic is a more consistent project than Unorthodox Jukebox but its singles aren't as strong as "Locked Out of Heaven" or "Treasure".24K Magic (the song) is a cool groove but it didn't quite grab me like LOOH did back in 2013.

24K is a big hit but he was NOT going to top hard rock fans with Metallica's new album. They been waiting a minute for that one.

because it's derivitive wannabe/black commercial bullshit?

MD431Madcat said:

because it's derivitive wannabe/black commercial bullshit?

Good question. I think it has to do with both the timing of the album release and the material on the album. In the case of timing, I think his album should have been released in the summer instead of in November during the holiday season. The album has a summer/party sound to it and I think it would've received a better response had it been released sometime during June-Sept.



24K Magic was released the same week Metallica released their album, (Nov. 18th) and it was their album that kept Bruno's album from hitting #1 (According to Billboard, 24K Magic's opening week sales: 194,000. Metallica's opening week sales: 281,000). I didnt realize Metallica still had such a strong and loyal fanbase!

The following week The Weeknd released his Starboy album, and seeing how he is very popular right now it's no surprise that his album debuted at #1.



However, I've been monitoring 24K Magic's position on the charts, and even tho it has never made it to #1, it's been sitting in the top 10 since it was released back in November, which imo is pretty impressive considering some of the other albums that have been released since then that debuted at #1 have since fallen out of the top 10. Just this week 24K Magic finally fell to #11 on the charts, but it's been holding steady in the top 10 since it's November release.

I think another reason why releasing 24K Magic in November was not a great idea is because that's during the holiday season and Christamas music tends to do very well during the months of Nov.-Dec. Especially when you have a group like Pentatonix whose Christmas albums are enormously popular. Yep, their album eventually made it to #1 too.

Also I think the material itself contributed to it's not reaching #1. I agree with you that this album is his most consistent, but IMO, it's not as strong as his 1st two albums. Although it's full of fun and catchy songs, the album as a whole plays like a nostalgic tribute to late 80s & 90s R&B music. Which is fine but...I feel that only appeals to those who are fans of late 80s/90s R&B music. I agree that the singles on Unorthodox Jukebox like Locked Out of Heaven, Treasure, When I Was Your Man, Young Girls are stronger than the tracks on this album.


It's not too late for 24K Magic to make it to #1...Even his last album Unorthodox Jukebox didnt debut at #1, but it managed to finally make its way to the top spot...after Amazon slashed the price and sold the digital download of it for $1.99 But hey a #1 album is still a #1 album, no matter how it got there lol.

At this point, in order for it to get to the top spot the album needs to have more PROMOTION! 24K Magic-the single is old news now. That's What I Like has been released to radio, and that is the new single at the moment, but I am frustrated by the lack of promotion from Bruno. We should have had a new music video by now, but I hear rumors that he is working on a new video at the moment. Which is great because it's long overdue.

Perhaps his performance on the Grammys this Sunday will help breath life into the album's sales.

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no thank you.

and that bitch is ugly as hell!

paisleypark4 said:

MD431Madcat said:

because it's derivitive wannabe/black commercial bullshit?

[Edited 2/8/17 13:56pm]

NaughtyKitty said:

It's not too late for 24K Magic to make it to #1...Even his last album Unorthodox Jukebox didnt debut at #1, but it managed to finally make its way to the top spot...after Amazon slashed the price and sold the digital download of it for $1.99 But hey a #1 album is still a #1 album, no matter how it got there lol.

At this point, in order for it to get to the top spot the album needs to have more PROMOTION! 24K Magic-the single is old news now. That's What I Like has been released to radio, and that is the new single at the moment, but I am frustrated by the lack of promotion from Bruno. We should have had a new music video by now, but I hear rumors that he is working on a new video at the moment. Which is great because it's long overdue.

Perhaps his performance on the Grammys this Sunday will help breath life into the album's sales.

[Edited 2/8/17 13:54pm]

Yeah seriously this is a long wait for a second single! It's been about four months now and no new video? 24K is getting old now. Didn't have the play value that Uptown Funk had all summer. I agree it got a late release for such a summer album and song. Better hurry up with "That's What i Like". Chunky already was seen and heard five months ago so too late for that one. I feel Calling All My Lovelies and or Finess could be released after this then tour and hang the album up. That will stretch it out a year

MD431Madcat said:

no thank you.

and that bitch is ugly as hell!

Bruno Mars isn't an albums artist. He's known for singles. That's for one.

He could have debuted at #1 and pulled bigger numbers than Metallica, personally I thought he would do huge numbers like 400K or more.

But here's the thing:

People somehow didn't like 24K Magic as much as Uptown Funk, the song is still huge, but it's not a massive monster hit like we thought it would be. Maybe the whole pimp swaggy funk persona got old, maybe the pre-chorus isn't catchy enough, and you gotta admit the song's synthfunk production is a bit complex for EVERYONE to consume it and know it by heart.

AND THE MOST REASONABLE FACTOR WHY THE ALBUM - SONG weren't NUMBER ONE:

STREAMING

Bruno's NOT a streaming force, Spotify won't put him on their most followed - popular playlists, and Apple Music gave him ONLY one banner at the time of the release. And today, unfortunately:

Good streaming numbers = A good position on the Hot 100 Chart.

Plus if you checked the physical albums charts, Bruno sold much more than the Weeknd in that departement, but the Weeknd had a massive Spotify deal and he's a massive streaming force.

_______

On the other hand, Bruno doesn't have a manager. He fired Brandon Creed for a reason we don't know, now he does all the promo himself.

Also, he apparently ditched Ari Levine from the Smeezingtons, who are one of the most well-known producers today (Currently up for AOTY @ Grammys for producing a song off Adele's 25). He instead created a whole new production team by the name of Shampoo Press & Curl, who are rumored to be Bruno, Phil AND BRODY BROWN. And TIL THIS DAY Bruno didn't even say not one thing about that, nor explained what happened.

The promo this era is a bit messy, he kept performing 24K and I know for a fact HE wanted it to be number one, but it didn't happen... Maybe after all the song WASN'T THAT GOOD.

And NaughtyKitty has a point, this album isn't for the masses. It's a nostalgic trip for those who love 90s music, and the reason why I like Bruno is because he takes a risk and releases a funk song in the middle of a tropical - EDM atmosphere that rules the radio.

And honestly, I like this... Bruno can write a number one song in his sleep, he's known for THAT basically, but he probably won't sign up for an easy, effortless catchy pop song a la Ed Sheeran or JT... he wanted to step up his game musically AND STILL make something that people will get down to, I think he succeeded.

[Edited 2/8/17 14:48pm]

I like you... you keep things light hearted.

paisleypark4 said:

MD431Madcat said:

no thank you.

and that bitch is ugly as hell!

MD431Madcat said:

Hopefully the public are moving on from Bruno Mars...

and his 15 minutes are almost up

MotownSubdivision said:

MD431Madcat said:

because it's derivitive wannabe/black commercial bullshit?

Yeah because derivative and far worse albums have never went #1 before. [Edited 2/8/17 16:17pm]

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paisleypark4 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

MD431Madcat said:

Hopefully the public are moving on from Bruno Mars...

and his 15 minutes are almost up

MotownSubdivision said:

MD431Madcat said: Yeah because derivative and far worse albums have never went #1 before. [Edited 2/8/17 16:17pm]

[Edited 2/8/17 16:27pm]

Bruno in 30 years from now.

To my ears 24k is a much better song than Uptown but not as catchy.

Probably because folks alredy have albums by D-Train, Cameo, The Time, Zapp, and Confunkshun.

Uptown Funk was cool but 24K Magic is wack.

Bruno's rap on it is

Iamtheorg said:

Probably because folks alredy have albums by D-Train, Cameo, The Time, Zapp, and Confunkshun.

Iamtheorg said:

Probably because folks alredy have albums by D-Train, Cameo, The Time, Zapp, and Confunkshun.

24KMagic (the song) is more "Cutie Pie" by One Way with Grandmaster Flash "The Message" thrown in though

and if only 1 amongst 1000 young Bruno Mars fans cares enough to look up only one of those mentioned artist on spotify, then it's alright with me

Iamtheorg said:

nextedition said:

Iamtheorg said:

Probably because folks alredy have albums by D-Train, Cameo, The Time, Zapp, and Confunkshun.

Who?

nextedition said:

Lack of any catchy immediate singles I'd bet.

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phunkdaddy said:

nextedition said:

Iamtheorg said:

Probably because folks alredy have albums by D-Train, Cameo, The Time, Zapp, and Confunkshun.

Who?

Stop fronting

paisleypark4 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

The album is definitely more R&B rather than pop so reaching #2 is excellent but all the same, it's weird how one of today's biggest names' album failed to reach the top at a time where anybody can have a #1 album. I think the songs have a hand in the album's performance as well. 24K Magic is a more consistent project than Unorthodox Jukebox but its singles aren't as strong as "Locked Out of Heaven" or "Treasure".24K Magic (the song) is a cool groove but it didn't quite grab me like LOOH did back in 2013.

24K is a big hit but he was NOT going to top hard rock fans with Metallica's new album. They been waiting a minute for that one.

United States, being kept from number one by Metallica's Hardwired... to Self-Destruct, which sold 291,000 copies

There's your answer. And I think it speaks to the type of music fan that can really take you to #1 if you stay true to your sound. As opposed to appealing to the flakes.

MD431Madcat said:

because it's derivitive wannabe/black commercial bullshit?

Bingo.