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This year marks the 30th anniversary of 4 seminal albums

I just realized this but 2017 will be the 30th anniversary of Michael Jackson's Bad in August, Prince's Sign O The Times in March, Whitney Houston's Whitney in June and George Michael's Faith in October.

All landmark releases from 4 of the 5 megastars of the 1980s, all of which have passed on.

Man... 1987 was stacked.
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Reply #1 posted 02/10/17 2:29pm

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And Whitney's 'Whitney'
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Comser said:

And Whitney's 'Whitney'
Just edited the OP.

Thanks for reminding me! I always thought that album came out in '86.
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damn, and to think all 4 have left us in these last years sad

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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IstenSzek said:

damn, and to think all 4 have left us in these last years sad

That's what makes this bittersweet.

The fact that Madonna is the only 80s megastar left and all the others have died within the past near 8 years is disheartening.

Thankfully, their music will live on continuously.
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Also the deserved Grammy-winner The Joshua Tree, Apetite for Destruction, Floodland, Tango in the Night, Dawnrazor, Electric, Diesel and Dust, Surfing with the Alien, Kick, That Total Age, Within the Realm of a Dying Sun, Music for the Masses, Document, Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, Sister and Songs About Fucking.

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MotownSubdivision said:

IstenSzek said:

damn, and to think all 4 have left us in these last years sad

That's what makes this bittersweet. The fact that Madonna is the only 80s megastar left and all the others have died within the past near 8 years is disheartening. Thankfully, their music will live on continuously.


true. they left behind some amazing catalogues of songs cool

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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MotownSubdivision said:

I just realized this but 2017 will be the 30th anniversary of Michael Jackson's Bad in August, Prince's Sign O The Times in March, Whitney Houston's Whitney in June and George Michael's Faith in October. All landmark releases from 4 of the 5 megastars of the 1980s, all of which have passed on. Man... 1987 was stacked. [Edited 2/10/17 14:56pm]


As someone noted, I'd add The Joshua Tree to that. It certainly took U2 to a whole new level in the worldwide realm.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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spacedolphin said:

Also the deserved Grammy-winner The Joshua Tree, Apetite for Destruction, Floodland, Tango in the Night, Dawnrazor, Electric, Diesel and Dust, Surfing with the Alien, Kick, That Total Age, Within the Realm of a Dying Sun, Music for the Masses, Document, Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, Sister and Songs About Fucking.

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I know there's more where that came from but I think it's very interesting how 4/5 the biggest names of the decade all dropped an album in 1987. Correct me if I'm wrong but this year is the closest it gets to all 5 artists (Michael, Prince, Whitney, George and Madonna) releasing an album in the same year. If only Madonna waited a year to put out True Blue lol

Let's look at the rundown:
1978
Prince and Michael (with The Jacksons)

1979
Michael and Prince

1980
Michael (with The Jacksons) and Prince

1981
Prince and Michael (with The Jacksons; live album)

1982
Prince and Michael

1983
The debuts of George (with Wham!) and Madonna

1984
Prince, George (with Wham!) and Madonna though one can count Michael with Victory

1985
Whitney and Prince

1986
Prince and Madonna

1987
Prince, Whitney, Michael, George, Madonna (soundtrack)

1988
Prince

1989
Prince and Madonna

1990
Prince, Madonna (soundtrack), George and Whitney

1991
Prince and Michael

1992
Prince, Madonna and Whitney

1993
N/A

1994
Prince and Madonna

1995
Michael and Prince

1996
George, Prince, Madonna (soundtrack) and Whitney (soundtrack)

1997
N/A unless one counts Michael for Blood on the Dancefloor

1998
Prince, Madonna and Whitney

1999
Prince and George

2000
Madonna

2001
Michael and Prince

2002
Prince and Whitney

2003
Prince, Madonna and Whitney

2004
Prince and George

2005
Madonna

2006
Prince and Madonna (live album)

2007
Madonna (live album) and Prince

2008
Madonna and Prince (live album)

2009
Prince and Whitney

2010
Madonna (live album) and Prince

2011
N/A

2012
Madonna

2013
Madonna (live album)

2014
Prince

2015
Prince and Madonna

So yeah, 1987 wins. However, the closest year we get for the Big 3 of the 80's (Michael, Madonna and Prince) each releasing an album is 1984 when Prince had Purple Rain, Michael had his contributions on Victory and Madonna had Like a Virgin.
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TrivialPursuit said:



MotownSubdivision said:


I just realized this but 2017 will be the 30th anniversary of Michael Jackson's Bad in August, Prince's Sign O The Times in March, Whitney Houston's Whitney in June and George Michael's Faith in October. All landmark releases from 4 of the 5 megastars of the 1980s, all of which have passed on. Man... 1987 was stacked. [Edited 2/10/17 14:56pm]


As someone noted, I'd add The Joshua Tree to that. It certainly took U2 to a whole new level in the worldwide realm.

I was mainly getting at the idea that this year marks the 30th anniversary of big-time albums released by 4 of the biggest names of the 1980s and that each of them are dead.

Generally speaking about seminal 1987 albums, The Joshua Tree definitely counts.
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Reply #10 posted 02/11/17 10:44am

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Not sure if you guys will think this belongs on your list but also in 1987, Terence Trent D'arby released his very successful debut, "Introducing The Hardline According To Terence Trent D'arby." I know he may not be as famous as the others mentioned in this thread but many consider him a contemporary of the many of the artists mentioned in this thread.

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Also the deserved Grammy-winner The Joshua Tree, Apetite for Destruction, Floodland, Tango in the Night, Dawnrazor, Electric, Diesel and Dust, Surfing with the Alien, Kick, That Total Age, Within the Realm of a Dying Sun, Music for the Masses, Document, Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, Sister and Songs About Fucking.



You may be my new org crush. mushy

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τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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I was mainly getting at the idea that this year marks the 39th anniversary of the 4 biggest names of the 1980s and that each of them are dead. Generally speaking about seminal 1987 albums, The Joshua Tree definitely counts.


Ugg I hate that this is even a thing. sad But I gotcha.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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TrivialPursuit said:



MotownSubdivision said:



I was mainly getting at the idea that this year marks the 39th anniversary of the 4 biggest names of the 1980s and that each of them are dead. Generally speaking about seminal 1987 albums, The Joshua Tree definitely counts.


Ugg I hate that this is even a thing. sad But I gotcha.

Wasn't trying to be a downer or a killjoy but man... it's crazy how all 4 artists released an album in the same year and now all 4 are gone. It's definitely a bitter pill to swallow sad

As for 1987 in general, that year saw many significant releases. It's probably the most stacked year of the decade next to 1984.
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Wasn't trying to be a downer or a killjoy but man... it's crazy how all 4 artists released an album in the same year and now all 4 are gone. It's definitely a bitter pill to swallow sad As for 1987 in general, that year saw many significant releases. It's probably the most stacked year of the decade next to 1984.


It's not a downer; just truth.

I'd agree that 1987 seems to be a reboot to music in general. MJ had new sounds on his record, Whitney certain took WH to a new level - a tough task considering how big the Whitney Houston record was in 1985. She changed up her sound, too. Went with the late 80s synth-heavy Ric Wake type sound. Folks had to keep up with that Taylor Dayne sound.

It was a watershed for Prince too, with a new band, and a double record.

Then GM comes out of the gate talking sex in an age of AIDS (ironically it was a message of monogamy, not casual sex), and was one of the first albums to be recorded digitally. People forget that George Michael played most every instrument on there, and wrote all the songs, or at least co-wrote with his friend David Austin ("Look At Your Hands"). He wrote, played, produced... sounds like someone we know.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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So yeah, 1987 wins. However, the closest year we get for the Big 3 of the 80's ((Michael, Madonna and Prince) each releasing an album is 1984 when Prince had Purple Rain, Michael had his contributions on Victory and Madonn had Like a Virgin.

Yes, I certainly agree about those Pop names making their grandest artistic statements in 1987. Don't taze me bro but I subscribe to the thought that Bad presents his most unified sound and cohesive production, it functions brilliantly as a concept album and captures a fragment of time more effectively than any of his other work (aside from the god-awful title track, thankfully I only have to push skip at the very start on that album). Faith was George at his very best as a songwriter and SotT as we know is Prince's magnum opus. That whole year in general, so many artists left their most creative stamps, from a non-US perspective I do have to mention Diesel and Dust by Midnight Oil. It was huge in Australia and was the first high-profile album to address white history, Indigenous issues and land rights; even to this day white racists squirm in fury and resentment when it is named in any top 20 countdown, I love it so much.

The more I think about 87, the more I believe it to be the most solid year of the decade - but then, upon reflection, I just miss the 80s overall and every year had shining lights for me. We did touch on 1984 in your other thread, so I think we could also throw Born in the USA into that mix there, ol' Bruce was certainly quite a big name around then, although he was on that threshold between pop and rock. If we look at that year purely from a seminal viewpoint again, there was also Ride the Lightning by Metallica, The Smiths and Diamond Life by Sade, so yeah, another strong year altogether.

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1987 is my favorite year of music overall.

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TrivialPursuit said:



MotownSubdivision said:



Wasn't trying to be a downer or a killjoy but man... it's crazy how all 4 artists released an album in the same year and now all 4 are gone. It's definitely a bitter pill to swallow sad As for 1987 in general, that year saw many significant releases. It's probably the most stacked year of the decade next to 1984.


It's not a downer; just truth.

I'd agree that 1987 seems to be a reboot to music in general. MJ had new sounds on his record, Whitney certain took WH to a new level - a tough task considering how big the Whitney Houston record was in 1985. She changed up her sound, too. Went with the late 80s synth-heavy Ric Wake type sound. Folks had to keep up with that Taylor Dayne sound.

It was a watershed for Prince too, with a new band, and a double record.

Then GM comes out of the gate talking sex in an age of AIDS (ironically it was a message of monogamy, not casual sex), and was one of the first albums to be recorded digitally. People forget that George Michael played most every instrument on there, and wrote all the songs, or at least co-wrote with his friend David Austin ("Look At Your Hands"). He wrote, played, produced... sounds like someone we know.

Yes sir to everything.

As for your last point, I don't think George ever got any recognition for being the multifaceted artist he was. His defining trait was his soulful singing voice but that's only skin deep compared to what others skilled he displayed in-studio.
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Reply #18 posted 02/12/17 2:05am

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I love all of those albums, SOTT is the clear #1, but Bad is real close. Bad is my favourite Michael Jackson and it is just perfection but not as adventorous or as varied as Sign. Still nothing on Sign sounds as good as Smooth Criminal or the Way you make me feel, yet Michael could never pull off a ballad like Adore.

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Faith and Whitney are up there too. Howcome no one is counting the 2 Madonna releases - You Can dance and Whose that girl soundtrack (Okay it only had 4 songs of her, but Whose that girl" is a great song).

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Not only are Sign and Bad classic albums, they are really peaks for both artists in my opinion and pretty much defined the trajectory of each artist's career. They are also surrounded by brilliant albums. Michael with Thriller and Dangerous and Prince with Parade and Lovesexy (Black does not really count, as it only saw official release in 1994).

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There was a 5th seminal album too - Terence Trent D'Arby's intorducing the Hard Line. Although here in NZ, it only really hit in early 1988.

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Fleetwood Mac also released the brilliant comeback album - Tango in the night.

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MotownSubdivision said:

I just realized this but 2017 will be the 30th anniversary of Michael Jackson's Bad in August, Prince's Sign O The Times in March, Whitney Houston's Whitney in June and George Michael's Faith in October. All landmark releases from 4 of the 5 megastars of the 1980s, all of which have passed on. Man... 1987 was stacked. [Edited 2/10/17 14:56pm]


Wow, this was very perceptive of you to recognize this feat!

I was almost ten in 1987 and I remember my parents playing all of these albums non-stop save
Bad; even my parents knew that after Thriller, Jackson had become too corny.

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MotownSubdivision said:


I just realized this but 2017 will be the 30th anniversary of Michael Jackson's Bad in August, Prince's Sign O The Times in March, Whitney Houston's Whitney in June and George Michael's Faith in October. All landmark releases from 4 of the 5 megastars of the 1980s, all of which have passed on. Man... 1987 was stacked. [Edited 2/10/17 14:56pm]


Wow, this was very perceptive of you to recognize this feat!

I was almost ten in 1987 and I remember my parents playing all of these albums non-stop save
Bad; even my parents knew that after Thriller, Jackson had become too corny.

Is this sarcasm?
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Adorecream said:

I love all of those albums, SOTT is the clear #1, but Bad is real close. Bad is my favourite Michael Jackson and it is just perfection but not as adventorous or as varied as Sign. Still nothing on Sign sounds as good as Smooth Criminal or the Way you make me feel, yet Michael could never pull off a ballad like Adore.


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Faith and Whitney are up there too. Howcome no one is counting the 2 Madonna releases - You Can dance and Whose that girl soundtrack (Okay it only had 4 songs of her, but Whose that girl" is a great song).


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Not only are Sign and Bad classic albums, they are really peaks for both artists in my opinion and pretty much defined the trajectory of each artist's career. They are also surrounded by brilliant albums. Michael with Thriller and Dangerous and Prince with Parade and Lovesexy (Black does not really count, as it only saw official release in 1994).


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There was a 5th seminal album too - Terence Trent D'Arby's intorducing the Hard Line. Although here in NZ, it only really hit in early 1988.


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Fleetwood Mac also released the brilliant comeback album - Tango in the night.

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So Madonna did release something in '87??

I guess I was wrong then! 1987 is the only year MJ, Prince and Madonna have all released full-fledged solo albums and the only time the 5 biggest names of the 80's released an album in the same year. Add Springsteen's Tunnel of Love to the count and that makes 1987 star-studded still. Amazing...
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Reply #22 posted 02/12/17 11:14am

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Bad definitely didn't have the same impact that Thriller had, but it's almost impossible to top that. 1987 also saw the release of Introducing the Hardline Acvording to Terence Trent d'Arby.
But, you know what, I think you could easily make 20, 40 & 50 year anniversaries this year... Or any other year...
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spacedolphin said:



MotownSubdivision said:


So yeah, 1987 wins. However, the closest year we get for the Big 3 of the 80's ((Michael, Madonna and Prince) each releasing an album is 1984 when Prince had Purple Rain, Michael had his contributions on Victory and Madonn had Like a Virgin.


Yes, I certainly agree about those Pop names making their grandest artistic statements in 1987. Don't taze me bro but I subscribe to the thought that Bad presents his most unified sound and cohesive production, it functions brilliantly as a concept album and captures a fragment of time more effectively than any of his other work (aside from the god-awful title track, thankfully I only have to push skip at the very start on that album). Faith was George at his very best as a songwriter and SotT as we know is Prince's magnum opus. That whole year in general, so many artists left their most creative stamps, from a non-US perspective I do have to mention Diesel and Dust by Midnight Oil. It was huge in Australia and was the first high-profile album to address white history, Indigenous issues and land rights; even to this day white racists squirm in fury and resentment when it is named in any top 20 countdown, I love it so much.




The more I think about 87, the more I believe it to be the most solid year of the decade - but then, upon reflection, I just miss the 80s overall and every year had shining lights for me. We did touch on 1984 in your other thread, so I think we could also throw Born in the USA into that mix there, ol' Bruce was certainly quite a big name around then, although he was on that threshold between pop and rock. If we look at that year purely from a seminal viewpoint again, there was also Ride the Lightning by Metallica, The Smiths and Diamond Life by Sade, so yeah, another strong year altogether.



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Talking about 1984 is one thing when it comes to Bruce and Born in the U.S.A.. He and that album can't not be mentioned when discussing the music of that year; it was one of the only 5 albums of 1984 to hit #1. However when discussing Bruce's star power throughout the entirety of the 1980s, he was definitely a major name and sold tickets as well as albums like hotcakes but I always viewed him as just a rung below the Michaels, the Princes, the Madonnas, the Whitneys and the Georges.

Bruce was a star even before Born in the U.S.A. and though that release catapulted him to megastar status, overall he didn't seem to quite capture everyone's fancy like the others did although his popularity was comparable.

I did note in my previous post that Bruce dropped an album in 1987 alongside the others so his contribution bolsters 1987's reputation as a packed year for music that much more.

Albums from Prince, Whitney, Madonna, Michael, Bruce and George all in a single year... truly awesome.
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NorthC said:

Bad definitely didn't have the same impact that Thriller had, but it's almost impossible to top that. 1987 also saw the release of Introducing the Hardline Acvording to Terence Trent d'Arby.
But, you know what, I think you could easily make 20, 40 & 50 year anniversaries this year... Or any other year...
Sure you can but those deserve their own topics.
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Sorry, I missed Spacedolphin's post, but yeah, Diesel and Dust was Midnight Oil's big breakthrough, I bought it back then and still love it. (Which I can't say about Bad and Faith.) And it adressed the problems the Aborigines have in Australia; Midnight Oil always were a band that had something to say. I also saw a great concert in Utrecht in 1993 to promote their excellent Earth and Sun and Moon album.
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Dasein said:


Wow, this was very perceptive of you to recognize this feat!

I was almost ten in 1987 and I remember my parents playing all of these albums non-stop save
Bad; even my parents knew that after Thriller, Jackson had become too corny.

Is this sarcasm?


Nope! I was truly impressed.

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Reply #27 posted 02/12/17 12:46pm

Dasein

NorthC said:

Bad definitely didn't have the same impact that Thriller had, but it's almost impossible to top that. 1987 also saw the release of Introducing the Hardline Acvording to Terence Trent d'Arby. But, you know what, I think you could easily make 20, 40 & 50 year anniversaries this year... Or any other year...


Yeah, but the context of this thread is "seminality" and considering that all four recording artists
have died within the past ten years or so while being four of the biggest pop stars of all time, I
don't think "any other year" is quite so easily selected.

This means, obviously, that TTD's debut, although it was pretty good, doesn't belong on this list.

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Dasein said:



MotownSubdivision said:


Dasein said:



Wow, this was very perceptive of you to recognize this feat!

I was almost ten in 1987 and I remember my parents playing all of these albums non-stop save
Bad; even my parents knew that after Thriller, Jackson had become too corny.



Is this sarcasm?


Nope! I was truly impressed.

Impressed at what? That all these legends dropped projects in the same calendar year or that I pointed that very thing out?
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Reply #29 posted 02/12/17 12:54pm

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Dasein said:



NorthC said:


Bad definitely didn't have the same impact that Thriller had, but it's almost impossible to top that. 1987 also saw the release of Introducing the Hardline Acvording to Terence Trent d'Arby. But, you know what, I think you could easily make 20, 40 & 50 year anniversaries this year... Or any other year...


Yeah, but the context of this thread is "seminality" and considering that all four recording artists
have died within the past ten years or so while being four of the biggest pop stars of all time, I
don't think "any other year" is quite so easily selected.

This means, obviously, that TTD's debut, although it was pretty good, doesn't belong on this list.


Okay... I just looked at classic albums, didn't pay much attention to whether or not the artists were still alive...
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